WOT-Tech intakes vs. MMS intakes

[mfuller]

Originally Posted by stewartfn18

no one hsa attempted it since then. everyone has been goin the boost route. im the closest to a "full stage 2" with wot tech parts and other mods, HOWEVER i have 3500 heads and they are not ported. havent been to the track yet. hopefully soon. excuse me blackchill or whatever his name is is heavily modded to but idk if hes been down the track either

I'm right there with ya.

[ForcedFirebird]

Originally Posted by MMGT1

Ive been out of the loop for a while here guys, but has anyone beat Mikes Stage II time of 13.9 NA yet?.... Xon's car ...or my trap speed of 100.25mph N/A??

GrandAm specific?

[stewartfn18]

Originally Posted by mfuller

I'm right there with ya.

hey matt. arent your heads ported. i think you have a better shot of beaking into the 13's than i do. actually i know you do

[MMGT1]

Originally Posted by ForcedFirebird

GrandAm specific?

Yes, Grand Am in Stock trim. I dont want to open a can of worms here, but MMS' Grand Am was removed from a title due to weight reduction, and my runs are all in full stock trim, no reduction... dammit, as I write this I am reminded that I do in fact have "some" weight reduction done. I have a CF Tech carbon hood on the car. That did honestly shave a lot of weight. Then again, my larger wheels I would say make up the difference there though. I have gone from the 225/50/16 to a 235/45/17. That is a lot of centrifugal force added there!

[mfuller]

Originally Posted by stewartfn18

hey matt. arent your heads ported. i think you have a better shot of beaking into the 13's than i do. actually i know you do

Yeah, they've been ported a smidge.
I dunno....car's heavy with the big anti-roll bars and huge brakes.

[AaronGTR]

Originally Posted by MMGT1

Yes, Grand Am in Stock trim. I dont want to open a can of worms here, but MMS' Grand Am was removed from a title due to weight reduction, and my runs are all in full stock trim, no reduction... dammit, as I write this I am reminded that I do in fact have "some" weight reduction done. I have a CF Tech carbon hood on the car. That did honestly shave a lot of weight. Then again, my larger wheels I would say make up the difference there though. I have gone from the 225/50/16 to a 235/45/17. That is a lot of centrifugal force added there!

That's not quite true. His car is not on the same list as others because it's not street legal. Not because of weight reduction. You can reduce weight. It's just gotta be a street legal "street driven" car. It's not fair to list a purpose built race car on the same list as everyone else.

[Mac0083]

So....

In other words



i couldn't find a pic of the little guy pizzin' on the trailer queen sign

[geldartb]

Originally Posted by MMGT1

Yes, Grand Am in Stock trim. I dont want to open a can of worms here, but MMS' Grand Am was removed from a title due to weight reduction, and my runs are all in full stock trim, no reduction... dammit, as I write this I am reminded that I do in fact have "some" weight reduction done. I have a CF Tech carbon hood on the car. That did honestly shave a lot of weight. Then again, my larger wheels I would say make up the difference there though. I have gone from the 225/50/16 to a 235/45/17. That is a lot of centrifugal force added there!

hahaha weight reduction you forgot about the wheelie bar on the back. that car shouldn't even be mentioned in this as from the last time i saw it posted it was a purpose built race car.

i haven't been to the track yet but it's not like i could compare to a stock car anyway, the cam kind of kills that one.

[MMGT1]

Yea, 100% right. It was pretty crazy, and kinda fun when that went down though wasn't it? I have never seen so much "fire" in you guys. Look, we take this seriously and not-so-serious at the same time.... I HOPE!! I'm Canadian, and we(I) really don't take this stuff to serious. I have a gut feeling that Aaron would love to meet me just to put his hands around my neck... well, maybe an attempt anyway right Aaron... hahahahaha
I do love that the passion remains with the group, and this WOT and MMS stuff is pretty cool to be in the middle of actually.
Side note guys... WOT Stage III went 13.2 at 108 I think it was, NICE WORK GUYS! I wish I could have gone stage III. I would have, but the car would have to have the plates taken off to do that here. I am as big as I can go and still be legal, so I guess the title now goes to WOT until someone that is not limited by emissions can go Stage III with MMS and see how we fair there.
So MIke... if you pass by here... any Stage III coming that you know of? .... LOL
Have a good day guys and keep the shiny side up!

[Vegeta]

WOT stage 3?

[MMGT1]

Yea, had a guy on ontario site last night 13.2 with WOT Stage III he says..
SheilsM Stage 3 WOT-TECH heads,upper and lower intake P&P,strip cam,adj pushrods,knife edge crank,Dimond Pistons,65mm TB,stage 3 custom cold air intake,heat shield,DHP Tuner,roller rockers,Adj FPR,#28 injectors,MSD ign coils,talyor wires,S&S header,S&S high flow cat,borla cat Back, all ARP studs, so on

[Vegeta]

Got a link? This is an N body?

The name looks like a customer of mine but the description of parts isn't the same as what I call them.

[slw240sx]

Originally Posted by MMGT1

Yea, had a guy on ontario site last night 13.2 with WOT Stage III he says..
SheilsM Stage 3 WOT-TECH heads,upper and lower intake P&P,strip cam,adj pushrods,knife edge crank,Dimond Pistons,65mm TB,stage 3 custom cold air intake,heat shield,DHP Tuner,roller rockers,Adj FPR,#28 injectors,MSD ign coils,talyor wires,S&S header,S&S high flow cat,borla cat Back, all ARP studs, so on

damn thats a hell of alot of money to spend to run a 13.2... should have just turbo charged a stock engine.

[Vegeta]

Yeah, anything but buy parts from WOT-Tech to run NA. What was he thinking!

[MMGT1]

Ill get you a link bud... one sec

[MMGT1]

http://ontariopontiacclub.ca/index.p...profile;u=1186

He's in Ottawa, Ontario it seems

[AaronGTR]

Originally Posted by MMGT1

I have a gut feeling that Aaron would love to meet me just to put his hands around my neck... well, maybe an attempt anyway right Aaron... hahahahaha

Uh, why should I care? This is just the internet after all, and I personally have no vested interest in either company. All I have is my opinion on who makes better parts and that's it.

Originally Posted by slw240sx

damn thats a hell of alot of money to spend to run a 13.2... should have just turbo charged a stock engine.

Not really considering the time and comparing it to the previous NA record and what these cars typically run stock in NA form. And it's not like turbocharging these cars is that easy either. Since no one makes a kit and it was never designed for boost from the factory, there are quite a lot of modifications needed to run boost safely and properly. Most people cheap out on the parts and construction trying to build an affordable kit and then end up being unreliable and selling everything before they even get any results... because they didn't spend the time/money to design it properly with good parts.

My point is a turbo on these cars that will be any good will still end up costing more than an NA build.

[Vegeta]

id have to register, that sucks. Awaiting admin approval.

[G.I.Ceo]

I never imagined this thread we be going this long still.

[MMGT1]

I guess it kinda got hi-jacked... and Aaron... just poking man, all in good fun. "YOU" know that you have helped me tons in this adventure as well over the years. That was my ackward way of actually giving you a compliment.. I have nothing but respect for the GA community here