Car Goes Nuts On Ice??

[cutlsp]

Have you tried adding more tire pressure then factory spec? I know the car calls for 32psi I put in 35 psi all the way around in the winter and if the tires are hot. I know some people say to let air out of your tires in the winter but that is stupid and dangerous. As the car sits it loses 1-2 psi over night because of the cold air. So try adding a few more psi then it calls for. You could also have a bad tire have you had them road force tested? I've seen a few new good year tires come up with bad spots needing to be returned for a refund. I'm stumped on anything else that could be wrong with your car.

[Ceej]

I would just go and check the balance of the tires. If they are off traction can be a nightmare

[Metallman56]

tires were rotated and balanced in august

[cutlsp]

Have you had a Road force Test done on these tires? Some tires do have bad spots in them even brands like good year tires.

[Shade2012]

Originally Posted by Metallman56

to above, no, no no no no and no. thanks for the help but what you posted above helps me 0. if you would have read my first post you would have read the car has never done this is the past 6 years i have owned it. and i know ice is slick. i also know that starting on ice can be a pain, however sense my car is a gt that means that its a automatic, which also means i cant start in 2nd. or any other gear for that matter. please dont waste your time posting if your not going to read about the problem to begin with.

Someone needs to look down at the shifter sometime..I have a gagt automatic..you can put your car in first, second, or third...

[WidbyJ]

RTFM metallman. As a matter of fact the Owners Manual recommends starting from a stop in snow and/or on ice in second gear, 1st will be bypassed for less torque/more traction.

I run in 3rd around town all the time cause 4th is too fast. Sometimes I even down-shift to decelerate. Autos really don't mind being hand shifted within reason.

Odds are that due to age/wear your trans is starting to mis-behave and the slick conditions make it more noticeable. I'd have the filter changed and fluids topped off unless it was done recently...

[Metallman56]

holy mother of god does no one read the original post anymore? do people just post in here to freaking post? what does anything in the last 2 posts have to do with the car not driving straight on ice? or maybe thats in the manual as well?

Originally Posted by Shade2012

Someone needs to look down at the shifter sometime..I have a gagt automatic..you can put your car in first, second, or third...

oh so what your saying is if i put my trans in/on "d" or 4th if you will, from a dead start my trans will be in 4th gear? thats what your saying? so the entire time i've owned my car (6 years) i have only been in 4th gear cause thats the gear that i always select. or maybe just maybe you have no idea wtf your talking about. sure if i had a manual i could start in any gear i want. but i dont. its a auto. it starts in first gear every time. even if i put it in 2nd, or 3rd, or 4th. ok not every time. if i'm backing up it wont start in first. i feel like i had to say that cause if i didnt some freakin newb would call me out on it.

ok so lets get some crap straight in here.

1. there is nothing wrong with my trans.

2. this thread has nothing to do with my trans

3. starting on ice is not the problem

4. if you read my original post starting isnt even the freakin issue

5. if you dont want to take the extra 2 mins of time and read the first post that explans the issue, please dont take the 3 seconds it takes to post something that is has nothing to do with the problem.

6. there is nothing wrong with my tires. if there was a problem like a dead spot i would have had the same issue the past 2 winters these tires have been on the car. its not the tires.

i know i really sound like a d*ck right now but come on. i didnt make this thread so people could post dumb crap that doesnt help me at all. i need help to fix this issue. and to fix the issue you need to know the problem. hence reading the first freakin post. if your post has no info that could help me correct my problem, please do us both a favor and dont freaking post at all. go spam up some thread no one cares about. cause the fact is this is a serious issue that could possibly cause an accident. which i dont want. so please try to help me solve the problem.

thanks

[stonemason90]

you said you had an alignment done.... did they check for camber and caster as well? because i know some places just check tow.(some dont even check rear tow which is a known problem with fwd rear suspension) if the camber is off it can cause the same problem.
edit... just reread and saw 4 wheel alignment so rear tow out of question... also cam bolts for the camber slip all the time potholes bumps and what not can throw the camber off. bad camber may not necessiarly cause a tow problem and a slight camber problems with pull if its not equal to the other side.... another sad fact is some shops use a wide margin of error which sometimes can cause problems downt he road. (ive seen up to 1/10th of a degree of difference between sides let go which can lead to problems)

[cutlsp]

Lots of people have said to try to check the tires(at least get them rebalanced with a dynamic balance then a static balance)

Honestly what do you have to lose in re balancing the tires? You may have put the tires on but maybe one or 2 of your wheel weights fell off. When I install tires on cars with alloy wheels I ALWAYS do a Dynamic balance then a Static Balance on them. I've had vibration problems before where the cars pull like you describe and that is how I fixed them at the dealership I worked at. The cars never came back complaining about pulling after I worked on them so you tell me its not the tires balance i'm telling you its possible it is. Either have it checked or stop complaining about it. Just because they were serviced in august doesn't mean no wheel weights fell off in that amount of time.

[Metallman56]

I will admit that tbe place I took it too was a place I had never went to before. My brogher had good luck with them so I decided to give it a try.

correct me if im wrong but when a wheel isnt balanced there is going to be a vibration. There is no vibration at all. Not at 5 mph or at 90 mph. Or anywhere inbetween.

[cutlsp]

Sometimes Balancing issues are minimal enough that you can't notice them when your driving on dry pavement but when it gets to be winter time they are very noticeable. Especially on ice so I do advise you have your wheels and tires checked at a place you have researched online before taking your car there. It is very possible they did screw it up. If you do have to have the wheels and tires rebalanced make sure you get a Dynamic balance done first then a Static balance.

Also if they did only a Dynamic balance the vibrations wouldn't be noticeable but when you hit ice it would become very clear there are issues.

[Metallman56]

Im just wondering wifh u being in dallas and all how many times have u driven on ice or in snow?

[cutlsp]

I've driven in every snow storm that has hit Dallas since I was 16 I'm almost 28 now. I have also lived in areas farther north and driven in Ice and snow conditions before.