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pontiacgt05 · 03-16-2011, 02:54 PM

heres a video. I dont know how well you guys will be able to tell, but when it shifts to third. youll see it shift, then drop again. Keep in mind that im keeping steady acceleration the whole time. my foot does not move at all.

KhellendrosxS · 03-16-2011, 04:15 PM

Sounds and looks pretty normal to me. It looks like its shifting into OD right after it goes into third gear. Check that your MAF is plugged in, clean and no wires coming out of the connector are unplugged.

pontiacgt05 · 03-16-2011, 06:08 PM

everything is definately plugged in. ill make sure that non of the wires are loose, but wouldnt the engine light come on if they were?

pontiacgt05 · 03-20-2011, 07:06 PM

everything is in fine shape as far as i can tell. no stripped wires, or lose wires anywhere

pontiacgt05 · 03-26-2011, 05:05 PM

Okay so i changed my spark plugs and wires. and it now starts fine everytime. but now there is a terrible ticking noise coming from somewhere. I think its the engine bay because it only does it when im accelerating. but it doesnt do it when i just rev the engine. I dont understand what could have happened between changing my spark plugs.

rizer · 03-27-2011, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pontiacgt05

Okay so i changed my spark plugs and wires. and it now starts fine everytime. but now there is a terrible ticking noise coming from somewhere. I think its the engine bay because it only does it when im accelerating. but it doesnt do it when i just rev the engine. I dont understand what could have happened between changing my spark plugs.

Were the plugs gapped properly?

pontiacgt05 · 03-27-2011, 07:20 AM

Well i bought the oem ac delco ones. so i guess they would be. didnt think i would have to regap them..

AaronGTR · 03-27-2011, 07:44 AM

well, at least it starts now... making some progress.

Spark plugs and wires wouldn't cause any kind of ticking noise that you would hear though. It's got to be related to something else. Maybe the belt tensioner or and idler pulley?

pontiacgt05 · 03-27-2011, 08:33 AM

well from what i can tell its coming from the right side of the engine bay, by the throttle body. I dont really hear it when i just driving, but if i get a stop light next to a car, or i drive next to a curb or something it echoes really bad. Is it possible that it could be in the wheel/ suspension?

AaronGTR · 03-27-2011, 12:24 PM

Definitely possible. Do you only hear it when the car is moving, or do you hear it when it is parked and the engine is running?

pontiacgt05 · 03-27-2011, 04:31 PM

just gave it a really good listen. definately not the suspension. Its coming from the back of the engine bay, sounds like from where spark plugs for cylinder 1,3, and 5 are. I remember 3 being weird putting in. It tightened alot faster then all of the other plugs. Ill try taking it out and putting it back in and see if that does anything.

pontiacgt05 · 03-27-2011, 05:56 PM

okay i checked it and re checked it, and the plug would not go in right... I reached my finger down there to check if it threaded all the way in.. and it definately didnt. there is a pretty large gap between the blot part of the plug and the head. I dont want to force it because i dont want to strip the thread, but i cant get it to go in straight. How bad is it to run like this?

[ChaosweaveR] · 03-27-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pontiacgt05

heres a video. I dont know how well you guys will be able to tell, but when it shifts to third. youll see it shift, then drop again. Keep in mind that im keeping steady acceleration the whole time. my foot does not move at all.

That's completely normal. Mine does the same exact thing, so does every other 4T45E in a GAGT.

pontiacgt05 · 03-28-2011, 08:30 AM

why? thats such a huge loss in power.. is it supposed to do that? or it just happens?

AaronGTR · 03-28-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pontiacgt05

okay i checked it and re checked it, and the plug would not go in right... I reached my finger down there to check if it threaded all the way in.. and it definately didnt. there is a pretty large gap between the blot part of the plug and the head. I dont want to force it because i dont want to strip the thread, but i cant get it to go in straight. How bad is it to run like this?

You need to get some light back there and try and see the plug if you can. Make sure if it's really screwed in all the way or not. They should thread in pretty easily. If you take out the plug you should be able to tell easily if the threads are messed up or not too. If it wasn't threaded in properly, that could definitely make a noise.

[ChaosweaveR] · 03-28-2011, 05:54 PM

That reminds me, Aaron, is it common for spark plugs to back out of the threads in the block? Because when cylinder #3 floated a valve on my GA last year, the plug wasn't tight, but the others were fine.

pontiacgt05 · 03-28-2011, 06:01 PM

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You need to get some light back there and try and see the plug if you can. Make sure if it's really screwed in all the way or not. They should thread in pretty easily. If you take out the plug you should be able to tell easily if the threads are messed up or not too. If it wasn't threaded in properly, that could definitely make a noise.

I got a mirror and light back there to really see it good, but by the time i get the plug lined up with the hole i cant tell how straight it is threading. It is good and tight, and isnt going anywhere. I looked at the threads and there is no damage to them, but it definately is not in all the way. theres a good 7 to 8 millimeters till its in all the way, maybe even more. could this also cause it not to fire, and only run 5 cylinders, or would i definately notice that?

03-16-2011, 04:15 PM	#42
KhellendrosxS Im A Motherfuc*er AKA: Chris Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toledo, Ohio Age: 37 Posts: 1,056 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT	Sounds and looks pretty normal to me. It looks like its shifting into OD right after it goes into third gear. Check that your MAF is plugged in, clean and no wires coming out of the connector are unplugged. __________________ GO: 28lb/hr Trailblazer injectors, Flowmaster 80 Custom Cat-back, Stewart Warner Maximum Performance Series Gauges, DHP Powertuner SHOW: Camaro Brake Upgrade, F/R Sway Bars, SLP STB

03-27-2011, 07:44 AM	#48
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	well, at least it starts now... making some progress. Spark plugs and wires wouldn't cause any kind of ticking noise that you would hear though. It's got to be related to something else. Maybe the belt tensioner or and idler pulley? __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

03-27-2011, 12:24 PM	#50
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Definitely possible. Do you only hear it when the car is moving, or do you hear it when it is parked and the engine is running? __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

03-28-2011, 05:54 PM	#56
[ChaosweaveR] So that's Vtec... AKA: Chris Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Medford, NY Age: 34 Posts: 6,783 Vehicle: ‘15 Honda Accord Sport	That reminds me, Aaron, is it common for spark plugs to back out of the threads in the block? Because when cylinder #3 floated a valve on my GA last year, the plug wasn't tight, but the others were fine. __________________ 2015 Honda Accord Sport Sedan: K24W 2003 Mitsubishi Galant ES: 4G64

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03-16-2011, 02:54 PM	#41
pontiacgt05 GAGT - Member AKA: ean Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: roanoke va Posts: 260 Vehicle: 2005 grand am GT coupe	heres a video. I dont know how well you guys will be able to tell, but when it shifts to third. youll see it shift, then drop again. Keep in mind that im keeping steady acceleration the whole time. my foot does not move at all.

03-16-2011, 06:08 PM	#43
pontiacgt05 GAGT - Member AKA: ean Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: roanoke va Posts: 260 Vehicle: 2005 grand am GT coupe	everything is definately plugged in. ill make sure that non of the wires are loose, but wouldnt the engine light come on if they were?

03-20-2011, 07:06 PM	#44
pontiacgt05 GAGT - Member AKA: ean Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: roanoke va Posts: 260 Vehicle: 2005 grand am GT coupe	everything is in fine shape as far as i can tell. no stripped wires, or lose wires anywhere

03-26-2011, 05:05 PM	#45
pontiacgt05 GAGT - Member AKA: ean Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: roanoke va Posts: 260 Vehicle: 2005 grand am GT coupe	Okay so i changed my spark plugs and wires. and it now starts fine everytime. but now there is a terrible ticking noise coming from somewhere. I think its the engine bay because it only does it when im accelerating. but it doesnt do it when i just rev the engine. I dont understand what could have happened between changing my spark plugs.

03-27-2011, 07:20 AM	#47
pontiacgt05 GAGT - Member AKA: ean Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: roanoke va Posts: 260 Vehicle: 2005 grand am GT coupe	Well i bought the oem ac delco ones. so i guess they would be. didnt think i would have to regap them..

03-27-2011, 08:33 AM	#49
pontiacgt05 GAGT - Member AKA: ean Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: roanoke va Posts: 260 Vehicle: 2005 grand am GT coupe	well from what i can tell its coming from the right side of the engine bay, by the throttle body. I dont really hear it when i just driving, but if i get a stop light next to a car, or i drive next to a curb or something it echoes really bad. Is it possible that it could be in the wheel/ suspension?

03-27-2011, 04:31 PM	#51
pontiacgt05 GAGT - Member AKA: ean Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: roanoke va Posts: 260 Vehicle: 2005 grand am GT coupe	just gave it a really good listen. definately not the suspension. Its coming from the back of the engine bay, sounds like from where spark plugs for cylinder 1,3, and 5 are. I remember 3 being weird putting in. It tightened alot faster then all of the other plugs. Ill try taking it out and putting it back in and see if that does anything.

03-27-2011, 05:56 PM	#52
pontiacgt05 GAGT - Member AKA: ean Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: roanoke va Posts: 260 Vehicle: 2005 grand am GT coupe	okay i checked it and re checked it, and the plug would not go in right... I reached my finger down there to check if it threaded all the way in.. and it definately didnt. there is a pretty large gap between the blot part of the plug and the head. I dont want to force it because i dont want to strip the thread, but i cant get it to go in straight. How bad is it to run like this?

03-28-2011, 08:30 AM	#54
pontiacgt05 GAGT - Member AKA: ean Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: roanoke va Posts: 260 Vehicle: 2005 grand am GT coupe	why? thats such a huge loss in power.. is it supposed to do that? or it just happens?