Performance Question

[street_fire]

Originally Posted by young gun

people will fight for days over this....

But i believe this....

just go with what is your price range, shipping (ones in Ohio the other i believed just moved to Florida)

LOL true.

[street_fire]

TB coolant bypass yes or no???

[MAC the KNIFE]

^ if your going to do a 65mm tb or whatever, then yes, you'll have to have one. but if your keeping it stock, there's no reason to.
FYI, you can go to autozone, get a foot of coolant hose the right size, 2 hose clamps and your done.

[stewartfn18]

Originally Posted by MAC the KNIFE

FYI, you can go to autozone, get a foot of coolant hose the right size, 2 hose clamps and your done.

thats what i did

[AaronGTR]

Originally Posted by HOYS

Flowbench designed. They don't flow every manifold from what I'm reading.

Milzy flowbench designed the intakes as well. There isn't much you can do to an intake when you port it. There aren't many "tricks" as WOT-Tech says.

well who does flow bench every set? Basically no one unless you ask for yours to be flow tested.

And anyone who thinks there aren't any tricks to porting work... obviously has never done any porting or any flow testing. It's one of those things that is considered a "black art" in tuning circles. People don't do good porting work unless they do it all the time and you don't even get the best porting work unless you get it from someone who specializes in a specific engine.

To my knowledge, I have never seen or heard anything about Milzy using a flow bench to design his parts. Nor have I heard of him flow testing his parts, and he's never published any of his numbers. His heads and what not look nice, but Ben actually has posted flow numbers for all his parts and makes them publicly available on his site. It's nice to have that info when deciding what purchases to make. The fact that Ben actually HAS his own flow bench in his shop, and uses it regularly... I would go with him over Milzy for that fact alone. But that is just my personal opinion, so take that as you will.

[HOYS]

I know Milzy pretty well, and I know he has flowed the parts.

I'll try and beat him up so he will post the flow numbers. I have seen them.

Its one of those things, Ben's intakes might flow better than Milzy's or vice-versa, who knows? Neither company will put it on the line to prove their intakes/heads flow better just because there will never be a true equal comparison unless they are flowed on the same bench. We modify engines that come in mini-vans...we don't really generate the most revenue ...or even that much...compared to other platforms/engines.

As far as heads go, I know that Mike and Ben have different things they like to do to the heads for their own reasons. I won't get into that. Just buy what you like. Everyone knows I heavily rep Milzy parts, buts thats because I see the dedication to the quality work that is done by him and his employees.

[AaronGTR]

Originally Posted by HOYS

Neither company will put it on the line to prove their intakes/heads flow better just because there will never be a true equal comparison unless they are flowed on the same bench.

See that's my whole point... Ben HAS tested his parts on the flow bench and tested some of his competitors parts on the same bench at the same time, and has posted the numbers on forums. I don't remember which specific parts, but I remember seeing the thread.

As far as heads go, I know that Mike and Ben have different things they like to do to the heads for their own reasons. I won't get into that. Just buy what you like. Everyone knows I heavily rep Milzy parts, buts thats because I see the dedication to the quality work that is done by him and his employees.

Well that's a different story and totally unrelated. I'm not saying Milzy isn't dedicated, and I'm not saying he makes bad parts. I think he makes some great parts, and obviously people are going to buy what they like. All I'm saying is I personally think Ben's development method is more correct and his ported parts are better. Again, that's just my personal opinion based on what he does and on the results I've seen. That's all.

[street_fire]

Ok thx Aaron. I just had a idea popped in my mind. If I do ported intakes and TB. Should I do Street cam, custom pushrods, yellow LS6 springs, LS1 valve spring seals, and valve stem seals for LS1 seats while the top of the motor is out??? Order all the stuff at once so when I do cam it it will easier to get to...

[stewartfn18]

youll have to pull the engine to do the cam. and if youre not doing that then the springs and everything else is overkill

[AaronGTR]

Yeah, the whole motor has to come out to do the cam, and you don't need the rest of that stuff until you do a cam. Which springs you use will depend on the cam specs as well.

[street_fire]

ok good to know thx guys.