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its still very tempting to try, then make it more simple to only run one inverter per pair....hmmmm
and thanks should have the white set ine 3-5 days then mounting them
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If you used one ballast one each side running both the green and white halos, then you run your toggle switch to cut either the power or ground to the green ones.
EDT or have them on a special switch. I forgot the name, but while one is off the other would be on and vice versa. Just throwing ideas at ya... Cooper--> Good point. If anything it would be a big PITA to replace the halo or the ballasts because of a minor fluctuation in the ohm load to the ballast.
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I give you credit for messing with them dang things anyway, more than anything, all I see and hear is how they blow or short or this or that... there is an 08 charger with a set here, and his still work, but he is the only one that has a functional set.
get this working, send me instructions, and i'll make profitz fixing these for people and send you a cut!!!! ![]() i wasn't getting what you were getting at Sky, splitting the power amongst the "sides" of each ballast shouldn't be hard, and shouldn't cause any problems, you're just putting a switch to them, i 2nd that idea, should work out real slick
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Volt meter = your friend. Do some measurements with it and see if the inverters for the white and green are the same then do it like skyhighs picture assuming they do match.
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insted of extending both plugs and all 4 wires the same length per ballast (maybe 1-2ft) your telling me to extend only one wire per plug the length of engine compartment to a switch and then back to ballast....so that one switched wire would then be extended IDK roughly 8ft or more??? also having both green and white on one ballast although good idea would require more work than needed Quote:
now your contradicting what your saying
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are those 1 hot line in, 2 hot lines out? or are they 2 hots in (1 on each side)??
if they're 1 hot in, with 2 hots out, and they light up 2 rings in the headlight assembly when on, and light up 0 rings when off, then you're going to have to open them to do that, but if there are 2 incoming hot connections (1 for each ring out), then you could just switch them BEFORE the ballast box and that would be fine, you'd just be killing power from the batter to one side at a time.
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Well technically,
there are unlimited possibilities. The white Halos you want on one ballast and the greens on another? There right about extending the wire length. If any wire is to be extended, make shure the other wire coming from the ballast is the same length also. (contradictory to what I said above, as I did research.) In my Pic, you wouldn't be 'looping' the ground. It is technically a quick disconnect, or a instant ground. When the power leaves the Ballast, It is expecting the 'used' power to come back through the negative. If you tap the ground wire 'like pictured' and have the toggle switch be grounded, when you flip it you are stopping the flow of positive electricity to the halo. Try it on a smaller scale.... ill keep more ideas posted..
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theres a pic of the ballast im dealing with signal power in then the two plugs coming out my goal is to use one balast. extend all 4 white wires the needed length to reach the halos, having a switch in the red wire so i can have complete control of the rings. that would be for both colors. one balast for white.....one balast for green
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i did a little digging around online, and i don't see anything about extending wires between the ballast and the rings themselves.
i did see a couple "extension kits" that were a plug and play set of wires, but didn't look to match those clips, and they said they were for motorcycles...maybe you can call the company???they might make them?
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I asked the guy I got them from and he didn't know, so I guess I'll try an get some wire of same gauge as the white wires and give it a shot. worst case I'm out $26 to buy a new halo kit then have extra set of rings to mess with
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eager to see how they turn out man
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wont have any updates until the white halos come in the mail, then take them apart and mount them, then seal the whole back of the lights with black silicone to prevent any light from escaping.
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has anyone ever tinted the stock yellow reflectors like this?
im debating on whether that would look good
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, you should test it on a pair of crap ones from a junkyard or something first... I wonder if it would be a funky color |
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Stock reflectors aren't removable...
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If the ballasts for white and green are identical then skyler's diagram is correct other than the switches need to be on the hot side, (red wire) not the grey one.
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my main concern and question is extending the 4 white wires all the same length using same gauge wire to reach the halos. because its stated on the inverters "not to lengthen or shorten any wires" but is that because it affects something or just a warranty type thing? EDIT: attached my rough paint drawing of what I'm shooting for
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I am pretty sure you shouldnt lengthen them for the reason I posted before. You are not recommended to lengthen HID ballast wires for the same reason. They just aren't made to support the change in load and can either not work, overheat or fail quicker then normally. If you were to run switches in line with the wireing between the ballast and ccfl it would be worse then extending them a couple feet to the other side of the car.
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any switches will be on the main power red wire. not adding anything between CCFL halo and ballast. just stating that
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Ok just making sure since that one drawing showed it. If you are asking about lengthening the red/black power/ground wires you should have no problem extending them as long as you want with the adequate gauge wire supplying them.
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