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Old 11-03-2011, 02:14 PM   #321
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Honestly I'm wondering where all the people who bought them went, two were posting quite frequently on GAOC and it seems like they have died.
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Old 11-03-2011, 02:19 PM   #322
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Someone whacked them for their $900 headers .
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Old 11-03-2011, 03:29 PM   #323
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Hey , either buy them or shutup........
you're an intelligent, with that statement being said i'm assuming you bought a set?

for the people here that do make sense, I really do want to see how these look in a complete engine bay, no idea if I'll get them as a thousand dollars is a large sum of money for just about anyone, doesn't mean I can't see them installed?
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:27 PM   #324
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you're an intelligent, with that statement being said i'm assuming you bought a set?

for the people here that do make sense, I really do want to see how these look in a complete engine bay, no idea if I'll get them as a thousand dollars is a large sum of money for just about anyone, doesn't mean I can't see them installed?
No I don't, but i've owned a set of TOGs, S&S, and currently have a set of 3400 Doug Thorley headers off of the aztek pace car that need some reworking for me to utilize them properly.
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:27 PM   #325
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Makes perfect sense to me.
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:34 PM   #326
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No I don't, but i've owned a set of TOGs, S&S, and currently have a set of 3400 Doug Thorley headers off of the aztek pace car that need some reworking for me to utilize them properly.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:07 PM   #327
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for the people here that do make sense, I really do want to see how these look in a complete engine bay, no idea if I'll get them as a thousand dollars is a large sum of money for just about anyone, doesn't mean I can't see them installed?
I can assure you they look no different then they do in the pictures already posted.

And yes a thousand dollars is a large amount of money unless your talking about headers or just about anything else related to modifying a car.
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Old 11-03-2011, 06:45 PM   #328
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I can assure you they look no different then they do in the pictures already posted.

And yes a thousand dollars is a large amount of money unless your talking about headers or just about anything else related to modifying a car.
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:05 PM   #329
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A bunch of cheap bastards around here...just sayin
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:19 PM   #330
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A bunch of cheap bastards around here...just sayin
I'll tell you what, if anyone wants to donate to my header fund, I'll buy and install a set and take as many pictures possible until my camera starts smoking. Heck I even have a 3500 engine swap with the Milzy MMS 3500 swap kit to go along with it as an added bonus.
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:56 AM   #331
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lets see the header pics then!
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Old 11-04-2011, 12:57 PM   #332
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lets see the header pics then!
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:48 PM   #333
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U gotta pay to play. If not sit back down on the bench and stfu. Then watch the big boys have their fun.
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:35 PM   #334
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Unfortunately all i have is Milzy's turbo headers, but if you want to get an idea of at least the craftsmanship then check out my pictures. If you want quality, you gotta pay for it....end of story.
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:11 PM   #335
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Can we try to keep this conversation civilized and free of garbage? I'm getting really tired of this crap.
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:50 PM   #336
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i hate to say it, but the aftermarket for the car is on its last leg IMHO. there are a few of us that are left that know that you have to pay to play, and have dumped thousands into our cars(and in the grand scheme of things im towards the bottom in regards to money spent), but all the newbs coming on the site expect to have decent parts made for a low price, and it doesnt work like that. i know im preaching to the chior to most of the people in this particlar thread, but this is for all the newbs that read it. all bullsh1t aside, im thankful that milzy and wot tech have offered things for this platform for as long as they have. these headers are well worth the price that they are being offered for. thats it. my .02

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Old 11-06-2011, 10:08 AM   #337
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i hate to say it, but the aftermarket for the car is on its last leg IMHO. there are a few of us that are left that know that you have to pay to play, and have dumped thousands into our cars(and in the grand scheme of things im towards the bottom in regards to money spent), but all the newbs coming on the site expect to have decent parts made for a low price, and it doesnt work like that. i know im preaching to the chior to most of the people in this particlar thread, but this is for all the newbs that read it. all bullsh1t aside, im thankful that milzy and wot tech have offered things for this platform for as long as they have. these headers are well worth the price that they are being offered for. thats it. my .02

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pretty much hit the nail on the head. i know for a fact that milzy is leaning more towards producing more products for the 3800 market and the cars that use them because the market there is still going strong. i know the next handful of products that i am fabricating are all going to be 3800 related and are going to be marketed towards the wholesale market as much if not more then to the retail market. its just easier to sell 5-10 things to one person and let them deal with the headaches of individual customers. my self i have been personally marketing towards the 240sx market with my company and we are actually about to start marketing towards 350Z market and the lexus is300 market as those cars have started to enter the realm of lower cost and the after market upgrade ability is huge for those cars. This hobby is great fun , but for people like ben, milzy and myself its more then a hobby its a profession and we have to stay where the income comes from and often times we leave behind some people, but we have to put food on our tables and pay our bills just like you guys.
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:32 AM   #339
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Well I think what's hurting sales of these headers more than anything is the lack of any real feedback from actual customer installs and not many want to risk $$ being the first out of the gate to do so for a car brand slowly disappearing into oblivion with continually decreasing resale value which basically means the aftermarket business for these cars will eventually dry up.

I'm hoping to squeeze another 4-5 years out of my GA with this 3500 engine swap to get my son through the rest of high school and then college....but even at this point I'm taking a financial risk sinking so much money into it fixing it up knowing I won't get it back except through long term use of the vehicle.
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Well I think what's hurting sales of these headers more than anything is the lack of any real feedback from actual customer installs and not many want to risk $$ being the first out of the gate to do so for a car brand slowly disappearing into oblivion with continually decreasing resale value which basically means the aftermarket business for these cars will eventually dry up.

I'm hoping to squeeze another 4-5 years out of my GA with this 3500 engine swap to get my son through the rest of high school and then college....but even at this point I'm taking a financial risk sinking so much money into it fixing it up knowing I won't get it back except through long term use of the vehicle.
Totally agreed on the resale value part, thats why I'm limiting my mods and cash spent on my GAGT so I can sell it and get a better car. There's a guy in my city who spent $15,000 worth of mods on his GAGT, mainly appearance, sound, other custom stuff and minor performance. Its nice but he wants 13k and I know he won't get more than 6 or 7k out of it because its a GA and everybody drives a GA where I live at.
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