Sway Bar Group Buy - Page 12

2003SCT · 05-12-2012, 02:56 PM

I did the rear bar but had somebody with a lift do the front bar. I found the rear to even be a PITA..can't imagine doing the front one on the ground. A lift is much like a hammer or screwdriver in that its a proper tool for certain jobs and NOT using one just causes more frustration than its worth IMO.

CHRIS

akeemjvasser · 05-15-2012, 12:09 PM

http://www.summitracing.com/search/D...odel/GRAND-AM/

just came across this, so for some of the users on here who may not get any i dont know if this helps or not.

o.a.n. thanks big time to pfyc.

shiwnath · 05-15-2012, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akeemjvasser

http://www.summitracing.com/search/D...odel/GRAND-AM/

just came across this, so for some of the users on here who may not get any i dont know if this helps or not.

o.a.n. thanks big time to pfyc.

None of those are for our cars.. looks like all of those in the link are for 80's W bodies.. The search probably found results with the word "grand" which made the pontiac grand prix show up in the results.. That's my guess.

Nick-G · 05-15-2012, 07:30 PM

Both of my bars arrived this morning!

HOYS · 05-15-2012, 07:45 PM

I highly recommend removing the steering shaft from the power steering rack and steering wheel before dropping the subframe. If you drop it too far, the steering shaft will separate and it will be damn near impossible to get it back on straight.

Starglow · 05-15-2012, 08:46 PM

Well the engine is out of my car so I have a lot less weight sitting on the subframe to deal with if I do need to drop it a little.

I was looking under the car tonight and it just might be possible to slide the front sway bar out if I can get the bracket bolts out. Has anyone actually tried doing that?

2000 GT Coupe · 05-16-2012, 03:45 PM

I came home to 2 packages today hmm now to get time to put them on

unchained_01 · 05-16-2012, 05:36 PM

I got my bars Tuesday also. Now I need to get my other subframe sand blasted and a couple coats of POR-15. Anyone replace the bushings in their subframe ? Any poly alternative ?

AaronGTR · 05-17-2012, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starglow

Well the engine is out of my car so I have a lot less weight sitting on the subframe to deal with if I do need to drop it a little.

I was looking under the car tonight and it just might be possible to slide the front sway bar out if I can get the bracket bolts out. Has anyone actually tried doing that?

Not that I've ever heard of. With the engine out.... may be possible but I don't know. I do know if the engine/trans is in, there is no way to slide it out even if you get the brackets undone. I tried and it wasn't possible. You can't get the bar past everything with the length of the bends on the ends. You have to drop the frame.

Quote:

Originally Posted by unchained_01

I got my bars Tuesday also. Now I need to get my other subframe sand blasted and a couple coats of POR-15. Anyone replace the bushings in their subframe ? Any poly alternative ?

???

There are no sub-frame bushings dude. It's a straight bolt on affair.

unchained_01 · 05-17-2012, 05:24 PM

Lol sorry I am not even close to the car. I posted that at the airport hotel. Before I left on vacation.

locoman99 · 05-17-2012, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unchained_01

Lol sorry I am not even close to the car. I posted that at the airport hotel. Before I left on vacation.

Good to know the csx crews take some time off from tearing up rolling stock...

I was going to ask you if csx has special training on how to disable a epd with welding rods and duct tape? Just got a csx lease sd40 that suffered unmentionable abuse. I guess when the rod got spit out of the side of the block the crew forgot to remove the evidence...

mfuller · 05-17-2012, 06:29 PM

PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!

Everyone who bought new swaybars -
Please be careful! These bars will drastically alter the handling of the car. It's very neutral, but if you overcook a corner the back-end will come around on you. It's fine if you are prepared for it, but I don't want anyone wrecking driving like a hooligan in an uncontrolled setting.

GrandAmGTCoupe · 05-17-2012, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfuller

PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!

Everyone who bought new swaybars -
Please be careful! These bars will drastically alter the handling of the car. It's very neutral, but if you overcook a corner the back-end will come around on you. It's fine if you are prepared for it, but I don't want anyone wrecking driving like a hooligan in an uncontrolled setting.

Thank you for the warning! I sometimes like to take corners fast :P I will have I take it easy now

Fireball · 05-17-2012, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrandAmGTCoupe

Thank you for the warning! I sometimes like to take corners fast :P I will have I take it easy now

I'd think you're able to take corners even faster now, right?
Isn't that the whole point of this?

That being said I think Matt is saying that the improvement is enough that you're able to whip out the rear end.

locoman99 · 05-17-2012, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfuller

PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!

Everyone who bought new swaybars -
Please be careful! These bars will drastically alter the handling of the car. It's very neutral, but if you overcook a corner the back-end will come around on you. It's fine if you are prepared for it, but I don't want anyone wrecking driving like a hooligan in an uncontrolled setting.

So when a fwd car breaks the rear loose i would assume u would throttle it? i have broke my rearend loose before by hitting a ramp too fast and giving it too much brake..not fun...well kinda. I need new tires..sticky ones that i wont have to get a second mortgage to buy?

2000 GT Coupe · 05-18-2012, 07:40 PM

Ok one question for you guys, I looked at the group buy page and I believe the bushings they supply are poly but can anyone confirm it?

And would the energy suspension bushings be better? For the front especially I would hate to need to redo it.

PFYC · 05-19-2012, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000 GT Coupe

Ok one question for you guys, I looked at the group buy page and I believe the bushings they supply are poly but can anyone confirm it?

And would the energy suspension bushings be better? For the front especially I would hate to need to redo it.

The bushings supplied are indeed polyurethane bushings...made specifically for the rear bar by Energy Suspension.

2000 GT Coupe · 05-20-2012, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFYC

The bushings supplied are indeed polyurethane bushings...made specifically for the rear bar by Energy Suspension.

Ok thank you

2000 GT Coupe · 05-22-2012, 10:11 AM

Ok put the sway bars on let me say that front one really is a bitch, in my garage on jackstands.

I knew it would be as I replaced the steering rack a few months ago and I wish I had the bar at that time.

Fireball · 05-22-2012, 05:38 PM

How do you find the handling

05-12-2012, 02:56 PM	#221
2003SCT GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Age: 41 Posts: 1,710 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am SC/T	I did the rear bar but had somebody with a lift do the front bar. I found the rear to even be a PITA..can't imagine doing the front one on the ground. A lift is much like a hammer or screwdriver in that its a proper tool for certain jobs and NOT using one just causes more frustration than its worth IMO. CHRIS __________________ UNLV Alumni...Go Rebels! 2003 Grand Am SC/T Coupe in White. Borla Cat-Back, F/R Speedbuilt sway bars, H&R Sports/KYB, 18" Misano Lightweights wrapped in Falken FK-452 Euro-Sports and ZAINO! 2000 Chevrolet S10 Flareside: K&N Intake, Truxedo Tonneau and Gibson Cat Back

05-15-2012, 07:30 PM	#224
Nick-G Boost Addict AKA: Nick Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: St Cloud, Minnesota Age: 31 Posts: 1,290 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT V6	Both of my bars arrived this morning! __________________ BUILT Turbo 3400/4t65e-HD powered Grand AM in the making. ---------------------------------- www.motorsportsevolved.com Get updates on Facebook ----------------------------------

05-16-2012, 03:45 PM	#227
2000 GT Coupe Made the move :D AKA: Gene Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jax Florida Posts: 1,416 Vehicle: 00 Grand Am GT1 Coupe	I came home to 2 packages today hmm now to get time to put them on __________________ 2000 Grand Am GT1 Camaro brake upgrade Goodridge G-Stop SS brake lines MP Racing CAI and tuned PCM LED tails Projector's with HID's Lowered 18" Rims Aftermarket front and rear anti-sway bars

05-16-2012, 05:36 PM	#228
unchained_01 Manic Mechanic AKA: albert Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: cumberland md Age: 59 Posts: 677 Vehicle: 2003 grand am gt	I got my bars Tuesday also. Now I need to get my other subframe sand blasted and a couple coats of POR-15. Anyone replace the bushings in their subframe ? Any poly alternative ? __________________ Building my own concept

05-17-2012, 05:24 PM	#230
unchained_01 Manic Mechanic AKA: albert Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: cumberland md Age: 59 Posts: 677 Vehicle: 2003 grand am gt	Lol sorry I am not even close to the car. I posted that at the airport hotel. Before I left on vacation. __________________ Building my own concept

05-15-2012, 12:09 PM	#222
akeemjvasser GAGT - Member AKA: remy Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: grand rapids michigan Posts: 66 Vehicle: 2013 mustang	http://www.summitracing.com/search/D...odel/GRAND-AM/ just came across this, so for some of the users on here who may not get any i dont know if this helps or not. o.a.n. thanks big time to pfyc.

05-15-2012, 07:45 PM	#225
HOYS lolGM AKA: Colin Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 1,102 Vehicle: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS	I highly recommend removing the steering shaft from the power steering rack and steering wheel before dropping the subframe. If you drop it too far, the steering shaft will separate and it will be damn near impossible to get it back on straight.

05-15-2012, 08:46 PM	#226
Starglow GAGT - Member AKA: Starglow Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 521 Vehicle: 1999 Grand AM - LX9	Well the engine is out of my car so I have a lot less weight sitting on the subframe to deal with if I do need to drop it a little. I was looking under the car tonight and it just might be possible to slide the front sway bar out if I can get the bracket bolts out. Has anyone actually tried doing that?

05-17-2012, 06:29 PM	#232
mfuller Mr. Common Sense AKA: Matt Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Loves Park, IL USA Age: 47 Posts: 2,031 Vehicle: 2000 Alero GLS sedan	*PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!* Everyone who bought new swaybars - Please be careful! These bars will drastically alter the handling of the car. It's very neutral, but if you overcook a corner the back-end will come around on you. It's fine if you are prepared for it, but I don't want anyone wrecking driving like a hooligan in an uncontrolled setting. __________________ Matt - Resident brake and suspension guru Also, your friendly Performance and Technical Moderator *Please don't tailgate, text and drive, drink and drive, or otherwise act like an asshat.* Questioning if it will ever run again.....

05-18-2012, 07:40 PM	#236
2000 GT Coupe Made the move :D AKA: Gene Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jax Florida Posts: 1,416 Vehicle: 00 Grand Am GT1 Coupe	Ok one question for you guys, I looked at the group buy page and I believe the bushings they supply are poly but can anyone confirm it? And would the energy suspension bushings be better? For the front especially I would hate to need to redo it. __________________ 2000 Grand Am GT1 Camaro brake upgrade Goodridge G-Stop SS brake lines MP Racing CAI and tuned PCM LED tails Projector's with HID's Lowered 18" Rims Aftermarket front and rear anti-sway bars

05-22-2012, 10:11 AM	#239
2000 GT Coupe Made the move :D AKA: Gene Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jax Florida Posts: 1,416 Vehicle: 00 Grand Am GT1 Coupe	Ok put the sway bars on let me say that front one really is a bitch, in my garage on jackstands. I knew it would be as I replaced the steering rack a few months ago and I wish I had the bar at that time. __________________ 2000 Grand Am GT1 Camaro brake upgrade Goodridge G-Stop SS brake lines MP Racing CAI and tuned PCM LED tails Projector's with HID's Lowered 18" Rims Aftermarket front and rear anti-sway bars

05-22-2012, 05:38 PM	#240
Fireball GAGT - Member AKA: Michael Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 130 Vehicle: 2001 Malibu	How do you find the handling __________________ 2001 Malibu, 3100, 180 xxx km Ported & Polished UIM, 65 mm tb, CAI, 2.5 inch mandrel catback to single in dual out magnaflow muffler, OBX Headers with downpipe.

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