HID thread - Page 2

DrFabulous · 12-07-2012, 01:02 PM

Also, if you're thinking of HIDs, spend time on HIDPlanet.

geldartb · 12-07-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mfuller

I ran low-beam HID bulbs in my OEM reflector housings for a while.

i had HID's in my stock housings years ago. ran them for like a week and now the bulbs sit in the garage. pretty sure the ballasts are still mounted on the car.

now that i have the projectors i was thinking about getting HID's for them.

DrFabulous · 12-07-2012, 01:09 PM

I'll try and remember to take a picture of my current setup so show the cutoff they have... even without HID's, it shows what a difference projector housings make. (I had to switch back to halogen projectors/bulbs, damn bi-xenon from Saab keeps flickering on one side, and I'm getting sick of trying to figure out where the system is getting mixed up)

[ChaosweaveR] · 12-07-2012, 02:26 PM

What about OEM reflector housings w/HIDs? late model Acura RLs and TL/CLs, Toyota Avalons and Nissan Altimas (V6 only) are setup like that.

geldartb · 12-07-2012, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by [ChaosweaveR]

What about OEM reflector housings w/HIDs? late model Acura RLs and TL/CLs, Toyota Avalons and Nissan Altimas (V6 only) are setup like that.

05-08 on the RL sure looks like a projector to me
http://www.ebay.com/itm/05-06-07-08-...e52c4f&vxp=mtr

apparently 99-04 they went with non projector HID's
http://www.ebay.com/itm/99-00-01-02-...f4c07a&vxp=mtr

don't know what to tell you on this. anyone got any pics standing in front of one of these. obviously being a mass produced vehicle it's not going to be illegal

[ChaosweaveR] · 12-07-2012, 02:38 PM

That's why I said late model. After 03 the TL was redesigned and got projectors.

sleepyalero · 12-07-2012, 04:12 PM

i already know its not going to be a perfect cut off. but like i said i have drivin toward my car at night before with no problems. if i was coming up a hill then yeah thats a different story.

TDavis · 12-08-2012, 10:52 PM

From what I understand the Acura's, Lexus', some Prius', and other cars that have reflector headlights but also HIDs from factory are designed with bulbs that are blacked out in some spots to eliminate the light scatter and/or there housing is designed for them also. They're called D2R bulbs or something,

sleepyalero · 12-09-2012, 12:55 AM

D2s i believe. you plan on doing a retro, acura tsx clear lens or s2k projectors are the best out there.

Bryle James · 12-10-2012, 12:38 AM

Woo hoo! Field day!

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Originally Posted by oldschoolguy

guy i know drives a lifted truck, with hids in stock housings. I swear that i'm going to hit a pole one of these days. I literally put my hand up to keep the light out of my eyes, and try watch the white line. Its the worst vehicle I know of that has it

I can relate to that and I have a funny story too. I was driving through Waimea (a small town back home where I live) and had a truck with ridiculously blue HID headlights and of course it was lifted ever so slightly so that even flipping my mirror was worthless. I'm pretty sure that was not the driver's intentions, but it was a bother for me. About 15 feet from the police station is a crosswalk with an on-duty cop during rush hour. Lucky me, I could see someone trying to cross and I could react on time. The asshat behind me on the other hand didn't and almost hit me when I did a panic stop before getting close to the crosswalk. So the cop signals us both on the side and I said I simply couldn't see because the guy behind me had his blue headlights in my mirrors. I drive off watching his truck being inspected. :P

This was before I did my retrofit, by the way.

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero

ive got 8k in stock housing and it does waste some light. but is also aimed to where it doesnt bother other drivers, and really dont care to take the time for a retrofit, i have more things on my mind for power/suspension then to make the lights shine a little better. the way they are now are awesome as is. so it doesnt bother me.

Why 8k? I could understand regular 4300 kelvin because at that point it looks like over-driven halogen bulbs. So how are your headlights awesome as they are?

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Originally Posted by DrFabulous

I'm willing to bet that is the case... I wish I could flag down the 2-3 people I see every day and explain to them how dangerous their lights are, but I just am not able to. And I don't "flash" people, especially when there is other traffic around, because there isn't much point in blinding additional people on the road.

You sir are a good man.

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Originally Posted by DrFabulous

I'll try and remember to take a picture of my current setup so show the cutoff they have... even without HID's, it shows what a difference projector housings make. (I had to switch back to halogen projectors/bulbs, damn bi-xenon from Saab keeps flickering on one side, and I'm getting sick of trying to figure out where the system is getting mixed up)

The flickering could just be a bad ground. If that isn't the case, were you using a relay harness?

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Originally Posted by [ChaosweaveR]

What about OEM reflector housings w/HIDs? late model Acura RLs and TL/CLs, Toyota Avalons and Nissan Altimas (V6 only) are setup like that.

OEM HID reflector headlights are DESIGNED to focus D2R and D4R bulbs. Auto makers don't just take a halogen reflector headlight and just a kit bulb like a lot of people think is acceptable to do. If it were that easy then even the most basic Mazda2 would have HID headlights from the factory. And I would actually love that, but it's never happening.

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero

D2s i believe. you plan on doing a retro, acura tsx clear lens or s2k projectors are the best out there.

D2S bulbs are only to be used with projectors man. That's what the S and R represent. S being standard, or for projector use, and R being reflector. If you plan on doing a retrofit, you can definitely find MUCH better projectors than the TSX, they are overpriced and don't even perform that well compared to other OEM and even some aftermarket projectors.

TDavis · 12-10-2012, 12:52 AM

Fkin Bryle

BTW if the person in the lifted truck is behind you, tinted windows work wonders

sleepyalero · 12-10-2012, 01:44 AM

i wanted mine a nice blue. what do you mean how are they so awesome?

[ChaosweaveR] · 12-10-2012, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero

i wanted mine a nice blue. what do you mean how are they so awesome?

The higher kelvin output you go, the less visibility you have. 4300K-4500K is the best output for visibility (hence why OEM ones are that temp). You actually see less with your 8000K because you want "blue".

[ChaosweaveR] · 12-10-2012, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryle James

OEM HID reflector headlights are DESIGNED to focus D2R and D4R bulbs. Auto makers don't just take a halogen reflector headlight and just a kit bulb like a lot of people think is acceptable to do. If it were that easy then even the most basic Mazda2 would have HID headlights from the factory. And I would actually love that, but it's never happening.

Well I kinda figured they were designed to handle it, but after seeing everybody do retrofits and basically hear "use projectors for HIDs" all the time...I was just wondering how it was figured out that a reflector housing can focus an HID bulb.

sleepyalero · 12-10-2012, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by [ChaosweaveR]

The higher kelvin output you go, the less visibility you have. 4300K-4500K is the best output for visibility (hence why OEM ones are that temp). You actually see less with your 8000K because you want "blue".

yes, i know that. but until you have seen it in person, its actually very nice. 8k was my limit. its 10x better then stock bulbs. and didnt want the nasty yellow anymore/white anymore. plus they match my "foglights" quite well. and since the 2 years i have owned them, i have had no problems or complaints about them.

young gun · 12-10-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TDavis

Fkin Bryle

BTW if the person in the lifted truck is behind you, tinted windows work wonders

I have 20% all around and Lifted trucks piss me off so much. Tilting my mirror helps but then you still have the side views blinding you.

Bryle James · 12-10-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TDavis

Fkin Bryle

BTW if the person in the lifted truck is behind you, tinted windows work wonders

Well Tanner, you know me.

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero

i wanted mine a nice blue. what do you mean how are they so awesome?

What is the benefit behind a "nice blue" besides a personal preference? I quoted you saying that your headlights were awesome as they are. What do you mean by that? What is it about your lights that makes them awesome and not just a regular headlight with improper equipment?

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Originally Posted by [ChaosweaveR]

Well I kinda figured they were designed to handle it, but after seeing everybody do retrofits and basically hear "use projectors for HIDs" all the time...I was just wondering how it was figured out that a reflector housing can focus an HID bulb.

Ahh, everyone has questions. To do a retrofit, HID projectors are dime a dozen and are just that much easier to retrofit in compared to reflectors. If you'd want to do a reflector retrofit, which by the way is a waste of time in my opinion because of the limited space someone may have, I would only do it if it was a factory option from the factory for my car. Because then it would be a legal accessory.

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero

yes, i know that. but until you have seen it in person, its actually very nice. 8k was my limit. its 10x better then stock bulbs. and didnt want the nasty yellow anymore/white anymore. plus they match my "foglights" quite well. and since the 2 years i have owned them, i have had no problems or complaints about them.

Why was your limit past optimal lighting? How is it 10x better than stock bulbs? Was there something wrong with the "nasty yellow/white" headlights? Your "fog lights" are just some cheap LED bars I presume, do they have the proper beam pattern to be used as fog lights?

sleepyalero · 12-10-2012, 07:35 PM

well even though they are 8000k they still produce better light then stock bulbs, even though the light is not spread out evenly 100% i can still see very well with them. plus they just look nice when they are on

handon · 12-10-2012, 11:36 PM

Haha. I'm loving this thread. I'll clean up the insides of my lenses soon and post pictures of my retro that someone asked for a while back.

TDavis · 12-10-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by handon

Haha. I'm loving this thread. I'll clean up the insides of my lenses soon and post pictures of my retro that someone asked for a while back.

Whats wrong with the insides of your lenses? o.o

12-07-2012, 01:02 PM	#21
DrFabulous FIGJAM AKA: Matt Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: MN Posts: 9,675 Vehicle: Acura\|Chevy\|Porsche	Also, if you're thinking of HIDs, spend time on HIDPlanet. __________________ '18 Acura MDX Kid hauler '15 Chevrolet Tahoe Toy Hauler '01 Porsche Boxster Project

12-07-2012, 01:09 PM	#23
DrFabulous FIGJAM AKA: Matt Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: MN Posts: 9,675 Vehicle: Acura\|Chevy\|Porsche	I'll try and remember to take a picture of my current setup so show the cutoff they have... even without HID's, it shows what a difference projector housings make. (I had to switch back to halogen projectors/bulbs, damn bi-xenon from Saab keeps flickering on one side, and I'm getting sick of trying to figure out where the system is getting mixed up) __________________ '18 Acura MDX Kid hauler '15 Chevrolet Tahoe Toy Hauler '01 Porsche Boxster Project

12-07-2012, 02:26 PM	#24
[ChaosweaveR] So that's Vtec... AKA: Chris Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Medford, NY Age: 34 Posts: 6,783 Vehicle: ‘15 Honda Accord Sport	What about OEM reflector housings w/HIDs? late model Acura RLs and TL/CLs, Toyota Avalons and Nissan Altimas (V6 only) are setup like that. __________________ 2015 Honda Accord Sport Sedan: K24W 2003 Mitsubishi Galant ES: 4G64

12-07-2012, 02:38 PM	#26
[ChaosweaveR] So that's Vtec... AKA: Chris Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Medford, NY Age: 34 Posts: 6,783 Vehicle: ‘15 Honda Accord Sport	That's why I said late model. After 03 the TL was redesigned and got projectors. __________________ 2015 Honda Accord Sport Sedan: K24W 2003 Mitsubishi Galant ES: 4G64

12-07-2012, 04:12 PM	#27
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	i already know its not going to be a perfect cut off. but like i said i have drivin toward my car at night before with no problems. if i was coming up a hill then yeah thats a different story. __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

12-08-2012, 10:52 PM	#28
TDavis GAGT - Junkie AKA: Tanner Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Columbia, MO Age: 29 Posts: 3,871 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SC/T	From what I understand the Acura's, Lexus', some Prius', and other cars that have reflector headlights but also HIDs from factory are designed with bulbs that are blacked out in some spots to eliminate the light scatter and/or there housing is designed for them also. They're called D2R bulbs or something, __________________ Mods: Alotta sht Last edited by TDavis; 12-08-2012 at 11:01 PM.

12-09-2012, 12:55 AM	#29
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	D2s i believe. you plan on doing a retro, acura tsx clear lens or s2k projectors are the best out there. __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

12-10-2012, 12:52 AM	#31
TDavis GAGT - Junkie AKA: Tanner Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Columbia, MO Age: 29 Posts: 3,871 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SC/T	Fkin Bryle BTW if the person in the lifted truck is behind you, tinted windows work wonders __________________ Mods: Alotta sht Last edited by TDavis; 12-10-2012 at 12:54 AM.

12-10-2012, 01:44 AM	#32
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	i wanted mine a nice blue. what do you mean how are they so awesome? __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

12-10-2012, 07:35 PM	#38
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	well even though they are 8000k they still produce better light then stock bulbs, even though the light is not spread out evenly 100% i can still see very well with them. plus they just look nice when they are on __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

12-10-2012, 11:36 PM	#39
handon GAGT - Member AKA: Brandon Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Rogersville, MO Posts: 120 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am SE	Haha. I'm loving this thread. I'll clean up the insides of my lenses soon and post pictures of my retro that someone asked for a while back. __________________ It might be something' in her eye, but to me she winkin'.

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