G.I.Ceo's Turbo Build! - Page 6

AaronGTR · 03-12-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by G.I.Ceo

The reason I deleted the PCV and will be adding a catch can is because of blow by. If I left the PCV in place while running boost I have a great chance of blow by and having oil push out of the dip stick. I can also set it up so my catch can vents off.

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Originally Posted by HOYS

I don't think anyone said there is a gain. If it is properly vented then I don't think there is much of a problem. I don't know how many times I've seen boosted cars pop the dipstick out if the PCV system hasn't been looked after.

Running a catch can is much better than just breathers, you must admit that.

1) NEVER seen a grand am pop a dipstick out the tube. I've boost 9.5psi and never done it. That's because my PCV system is setup properly for boost.

2) Having the PCV in place has nothing to do with blow by. That is completely dependent on your ring seal. Running WOT on an N/A car will increase blow by too, because cylinder pressures are higher. Boost ups them even more and increases blow by even more. PCV or no PCV does not change this.

3) Adding a catch can is a good idea, even on an N/A car. It's an even better idea on a boosted car. You don't have to eliminate the PCV system to install a catch can though.

4) Venting to atmosphere is stupid, even with a catch can, even on a boosted car. It's the simplest and cheapest way to solve a problem, yes.... but not the best way. Yes, when you are under heavy throttle the increased blow by will force itself out the vents. The rest of the time you are putting around without the throttle pegged, there is nothing to suck the fumes out and they sit in your crank case and mix with your oil. If you'd seen some of the crap I've dumped out of my catch can, you would not want this...

G.I.Ceo · 03-17-2013, 07:56 PM

Well I got my fuel pump wired up and ready to go. All I need to do now is install the tank back onto the car and run the upgraded harness for it.

G.I.Ceo · 03-21-2013, 06:19 PM

Talked to Milzy earlier today. I have a upgraded engine mount, and trans mount waiting for me. He also had one DRTC left that he put a side for me too. He's checking Monday about getting me one of his radiators because the ones he has in stock are all spoken for.

sleepyalero · 03-21-2013, 06:44 PM

awesome, milzy is a great guy. i was going to get a DRTC but i will have to down the road.

i have his pass side motor mount and 6 speed trans mounts. very good mounts.

G.I.Ceo · 03-21-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero

awesome, milzy is a great guy. i was going to get a DRTC but i will have to down the road.

i have his pass side motor mount and 6 speed trans mounts. very good mounts.

Yeah he's a good guy to deal with. When I call him he is always helpful and willing to make suggestions. He has done a lot of work for me so far and every time I call he always has time to talk with me. I cant wait to get more stuff from him.

sleepyalero · 03-22-2013, 01:34 AM

yeah he calls me from time to time to see how things are goin and tells me about new parts coming in etc.

unchained_01 · 03-22-2013, 03:23 PM

Randy
Tell him to get a few of those radiators
I will be getting one around June

G.I.Ceo · 03-22-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by unchained_01

Randy
Tell him to get a few of those radiators
I will be getting one around June

He says he has 10 on order but only 2 came in. I guess the guy that builds them for him is really hard to get a hold of at times. He told me that Monday he will have a answer for me.

G.I.Ceo · 03-23-2013, 06:43 PM

I decided to rip out my junk lateral link bars today. All the bushings were cracked. I already have brand new GP ones on the way. I didn't order the BMR ones because it would have been over kill and $300+ more. The GP ones I have on the way will be a good enough improvement for now. I already have Speed built sway bars.

G.I.Ceo · 03-26-2013, 04:34 PM

Very small update. I just received my MAF extension cable so I can move my MAF once I start installing intercooler piping.

unchained_01 · 03-26-2013, 07:25 PM

Using stock or upgraded Maf ?

G.I.Ceo · 04-17-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by unchained_01

Using stock or upgraded Maf ?

Using a stock MAF.

G.I.Ceo · 04-17-2013, 10:08 PM

I installed my DRTC today. The pictures show it installed and the difference between the stock chain and the awesome DRTC. I couldn't believe how loose the stock chain was and that it was as small as it is. I will have more updates coming because I have a ton of stuff to install.
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HOYS · 04-18-2013, 03:25 PM

What did you do to clearance the crank in the car?

AaronGTR · 04-18-2013, 03:41 PM

Yeah, make sure you've properly clearanced the crank and the front cover before installing that timing set. The crank snout has to be machined to work with that.

Also, I'd seriously consider upgrading that MAF sensor to an LS1 unit.

HOYS · 04-18-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Yeah, make sure you've properly clearanced the crank and the front cover before installing that timing set. The crank snout has to be machined to work with that.

Also, I'd seriously consider upgrading that MAF sensor to an LS1 unit.

Agreed on the LS1 MAF. Maybe get a tune going with the stock MAF and see if you max it out. You most likely will. Tuning the LS1 MAF will be a bit more work but opens you up to more power in the long run. Boy do I wish we could do MAP tunes.

G.I.Ceo · 04-18-2013, 07:48 PM

I dremeled the crankshaft and sprocket so it would slide flush. Once I had everything torqued I hand tightened the timing cover and checked if and where the chain would rub. Tomorrow I will grind on the timing cover to help with the clearance so it doesn't bind. I also grinded flush two plugs on the block to help with clearance of the chain.

I do have a LS1 MAF but I am going to run a AFC on the stock one first to see if I max it out. What I've been told that using the AFC on my stock MAF will take care of the maxing out the tables. I also changed my injectors to flow matched 60's.

HOYS · 04-18-2013, 11:39 PM

AFC will get you so far and you will lose drive ability because of the smaller resolution the AFC gives the MAF.

sleepyalero · 04-19-2013, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by G.I.Ceo

I dremeled the crankshaft and sprocket so it would slide flush. Once I had everything torqued I hand tightened the timing cover and checked if and where the chain would rub. Tomorrow I will grind on the timing cover to help with the clearance so it doesn't bind. I also grinded flush two plugs on the block to help with clearance of the chain.

I do have a LS1 MAF but I am going to run a AFC on the stock one first to see if I max it out. What I've been told that using the AFC on my stock MAF will take care of the maxing out the tables. I also changed my injectors to flow matched 60's.

you know milzy sells em for like 50$ even powdercoated that clear the drtc

HOYS · 04-19-2013, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero

you know milzy sells em for like 50$ even powdercoated that clear the drtc

Not really. PC TC is 75 without clearancing ... I have one

03-17-2013, 07:56 PM	#102
G.I.Ceo Skinny Wolfe AKA: Randy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 788 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am Gt	Well I got my fuel pump wired up and ready to go. All I need to do now is install the tank back onto the car and run the upgraded harness for it. __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT Turbocharged Garrett GT35 / Turbo Headers / 2.5" high flow DP / Custom SLP Exhaust / Ported 3500 Heads / Ported 3500 UIM/LIM / 65mm TB / Turbonetics Evolution WG / Greddy Type-RS BOV / Casper Adjustable FPR / Casper High Speed Fan Switch / Speedbuilt F/R STB's / Next Level F/R Sway bars / Eibach Springs / Dual Gauge Pod with Aeroforce Gauges / DDM 5000K HID's / Big Four Upgrade / HP Tuners and more! "Living is doing everything you want to do and dying is everything else"

03-21-2013, 06:19 PM	#103
G.I.Ceo Skinny Wolfe AKA: Randy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 788 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am Gt	Talked to Milzy earlier today. I have a upgraded engine mount, and trans mount waiting for me. He also had one DRTC left that he put a side for me too. He's checking Monday about getting me one of his radiators because the ones he has in stock are all spoken for. __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT Turbocharged Garrett GT35 / Turbo Headers / 2.5" high flow DP / Custom SLP Exhaust / Ported 3500 Heads / Ported 3500 UIM/LIM / 65mm TB / Turbonetics Evolution WG / Greddy Type-RS BOV / Casper Adjustable FPR / Casper High Speed Fan Switch / Speedbuilt F/R STB's / Next Level F/R Sway bars / Eibach Springs / Dual Gauge Pod with Aeroforce Gauges / DDM 5000K HID's / Big Four Upgrade / HP Tuners and more! "Living is doing everything you want to do and dying is everything else"

03-21-2013, 06:44 PM	#104
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	awesome, milzy is a great guy. i was going to get a DRTC but i will have to down the road. i have his pass side motor mount and 6 speed trans mounts. very good mounts. __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

03-22-2013, 01:34 AM	#106
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	yeah he calls me from time to time to see how things are goin and tells me about new parts coming in etc. __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

03-22-2013, 03:23 PM	#107
unchained_01 Manic Mechanic AKA: albert Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: cumberland md Age: 59 Posts: 677 Vehicle: 2003 grand am gt	Randy Tell him to get a few of those radiators I will be getting one around June __________________ Building my own concept

03-23-2013, 06:43 PM	#109
G.I.Ceo Skinny Wolfe AKA: Randy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 788 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am Gt	I decided to rip out my junk lateral link bars today. All the bushings were cracked. I already have brand new GP ones on the way. I didn't order the BMR ones because it would have been over kill and $300+ more. The GP ones I have on the way will be a good enough improvement for now. I already have Speed built sway bars. __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT Turbocharged Garrett GT35 / Turbo Headers / 2.5" high flow DP / Custom SLP Exhaust / Ported 3500 Heads / Ported 3500 UIM/LIM / 65mm TB / Turbonetics Evolution WG / Greddy Type-RS BOV / Casper Adjustable FPR / Casper High Speed Fan Switch / Speedbuilt F/R STB's / Next Level F/R Sway bars / Eibach Springs / Dual Gauge Pod with Aeroforce Gauges / DDM 5000K HID's / Big Four Upgrade / HP Tuners and more! "Living is doing everything you want to do and dying is everything else"

03-26-2013, 04:34 PM	#110
G.I.Ceo Skinny Wolfe AKA: Randy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 788 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am Gt	Very small update. I just received my MAF extension cable so I can move my MAF once I start installing intercooler piping. __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT Turbocharged Garrett GT35 / Turbo Headers / 2.5" high flow DP / Custom SLP Exhaust / Ported 3500 Heads / Ported 3500 UIM/LIM / 65mm TB / Turbonetics Evolution WG / Greddy Type-RS BOV / Casper Adjustable FPR / Casper High Speed Fan Switch / Speedbuilt F/R STB's / Next Level F/R Sway bars / Eibach Springs / Dual Gauge Pod with Aeroforce Gauges / DDM 5000K HID's / Big Four Upgrade / HP Tuners and more! "Living is doing everything you want to do and dying is everything else"

03-26-2013, 07:25 PM	#111
unchained_01 Manic Mechanic AKA: albert Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: cumberland md Age: 59 Posts: 677 Vehicle: 2003 grand am gt	Using stock or upgraded Maf ? __________________ Building my own concept

04-17-2013, 10:08 PM	#113
G.I.Ceo Skinny Wolfe AKA: Randy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 788 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am Gt	I installed my DRTC today. The pictures show it installed and the difference between the stock chain and the awesome DRTC. I couldn't believe how loose the stock chain was and that it was as small as it is. I will have more updates coming because I have a ton of stuff to install. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT Turbocharged Garrett GT35 / Turbo Headers / 2.5" high flow DP / Custom SLP Exhaust / Ported 3500 Heads / Ported 3500 UIM/LIM / 65mm TB / Turbonetics Evolution WG / Greddy Type-RS BOV / Casper Adjustable FPR / Casper High Speed Fan Switch / Speedbuilt F/R STB's / Next Level F/R Sway bars / Eibach Springs / Dual Gauge Pod with Aeroforce Gauges / DDM 5000K HID's / Big Four Upgrade / HP Tuners and more! "Living is doing everything you want to do and dying is everything else" Last edited by G.I.Ceo; 04-18-2013 at 08:57 AM.

04-18-2013, 03:25 PM	#114
HOYS lolGM AKA: Colin Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 1,102 Vehicle: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS	What did you do to clearance the crank in the car?

04-18-2013, 03:41 PM	#115
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Yeah, make sure you've properly clearanced the crank and the front cover before installing that timing set. The crank snout has to be machined to work with that. Also, I'd seriously consider upgrading that MAF sensor to an LS1 unit. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

04-18-2013, 07:48 PM	#117
G.I.Ceo Skinny Wolfe AKA: Randy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 788 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am Gt	I dremeled the crankshaft and sprocket so it would slide flush. Once I had everything torqued I hand tightened the timing cover and checked if and where the chain would rub. Tomorrow I will grind on the timing cover to help with the clearance so it doesn't bind. I also grinded flush two plugs on the block to help with clearance of the chain. I do have a LS1 MAF but I am going to run a AFC on the stock one first to see if I max it out. What I've been told that using the AFC on my stock MAF will take care of the maxing out the tables. I also changed my injectors to flow matched 60's. __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT Turbocharged Garrett GT35 / Turbo Headers / 2.5" high flow DP / Custom SLP Exhaust / Ported 3500 Heads / Ported 3500 UIM/LIM / 65mm TB / Turbonetics Evolution WG / Greddy Type-RS BOV / Casper Adjustable FPR / Casper High Speed Fan Switch / Speedbuilt F/R STB's / Next Level F/R Sway bars / Eibach Springs / Dual Gauge Pod with Aeroforce Gauges / DDM 5000K HID's / Big Four Upgrade / HP Tuners and more! "Living is doing everything you want to do and dying is everything else"

04-18-2013, 11:39 PM	#118
HOYS lolGM AKA: Colin Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 1,102 Vehicle: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS	AFC will get you so far and you will lose drive ability because of the smaller resolution the AFC gives the MAF.