2004 Ga ?

nd4spd · 03-15-2003, 10:40 PM

Does anyone have info on the 2004 grand ams, I know they will be changed in 2005, but they just keep showing the 2004 grand prixs. Just wondering if any changes, even if there small, which I'm guessing will come with the 2004s. Looked every where, and yes I searched,

. Thanks

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red rocket · 03-17-2003, 10:00 AM

On the local dealer's website, it showed a 2004 GP in stock, so I went to look yesterday. I was going to take pics to post here. I could not find one anywhere on the lot nor in the showroom. Maybe it sold already or some salesman is driving it home. I was bummed. It was the base GT model, silver. I really need to see this car in person to gauge how good or bad it looks.

I haven't heard much about the new GA, though.

WOLF · 03-17-2003, 05:42 PM

Can't find anything either.

Maybe no changes will be made to it for 2004 since they usually sell a car a year in advance EX. 2004 GP, it isn't 2004 yet, yet they are selling 2004 GP's already. So they might just chunk the GA in there in mid 2004 as a 2005 and just carry over the 2003 as 2004's but just put a ton of discounts on them to get them out of the way.

You never know, but thats how it works out sometimes.

red rocket · 03-18-2003, 05:41 AM

What's amazing is that the GAGT models 99, 00,01,02, and 03 have been virtually identical. The only changes were to the stereo, side view mirrors and options such as onstar and the new hood/spoiler package. So that's 5 model years with basically no changes, and there have been no firm changes announced to a future model. Other than hearing about how it will share the same platform with the new Malibu.

Than again, the GP has been around since 1997, and is just getting revised for the 04 model. So it went 7 model years without changes. Why is Pontiac so slow with changes? Probably because they concentrated on other new product developments like the Vibe and the Asstek.

Well, I may be looking to replace my 99 GT in about a year, and if there ain't a new GA on the market by then, I'll be looking elsewhere.

Vintalage · 03-18-2003, 06:33 AM

It seems like the other american car companies (chrysler, ford) is like that too. The imports do a better job with refreshing their cars looks.

thehemi · 03-18-2003, 11:06 AM

Do not fix what is not broke! The GAs are
not really identical, because they took off
the side molding in 2003, right? I think.
(And they look much better without it.)

koolZ71 · 03-18-2003, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by red rocket
On the local dealer's website, it showed a 2004 GP in stock, so I went to look yesterday. I was going to take pics to post here. I could not find one anywhere on the lot nor in the showroom. Maybe it sold already or some salesman is driving it home. I was bummed. It was the base GT model, silver. I really need to see this car in person to gauge how good or bad it looks.

I haven't heard much about the new GA, though.

on that note i talked to my dealer..they said they have one coming in at the end of the month....fully loaded GTP competion package...ohhhh how i would love to buy that

03-19-2003, 10:13 AM

You'll be disappointed going to the dealer to look for a 2004 GA, their going to be the same. 2005 model year is the fresh GA, and only then the SE. The current GT will carry over for the first few months at least. Meaning the new GA will be available in SE form only, and you can still buy the current GT.

I've been watching our dealership close for the new Grand Prix, I'm so test driving this new beast.

Comp G of course.

koolZ71 · 03-19-2003, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SilverGA2001
You'll be disappointed going to the dealer to look for a 2004 GA, their going to be the same. 2005 model year is the fresh GA, and only then the SE. The current GT will carry over for the first few months at least. Meaning the new GA will be available in SE form only, and you can still buy the current GT.

I've been watching our dealership close for the new Grand Prix, I'm so test driving this new beast. Comp G of course.

hittles in greenville has one coming in the end of this month..fully loaded GTP with everything, and comp package

i may be buying it..im kinda starting paperwork if it works out

red rocket · 03-19-2003, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thehemi
The GAs are not really identical, because they took off
the side molding in 2003, right? I think.
(And they look much better without it.)

I referred to the GT model, which has not changed since 1999. The SE model has changed, yes.

03-19-2003, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by koolgt
hittles in greenville has one coming in the end of this month..fully loaded GTP with everything, and comp package
i may be buying it..im kinda starting paperwork if it works out

Arbogast has like 50 current models. I wonder if they'll sell once the new one hits the showroom. You can tell their kind of worried. They've got the grouped together where their really visible. I think someone ordered too many and now they can't move them.

koolZ71 · 03-19-2003, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SilverGA2001
Arbogast has like 50 current models. I wonder if they'll sell once the new one hits the showroom. You can tell their kind of worried. They've got the grouped together where their really visible. I think someone ordered too many and now they can't move them.

no what i meant was they have an 04 GP GTP not an 03

03-19-2003, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by koolgt
no what i meant was they have an 04 GP GTP not an 03

I'm so glad you pointed that out! I thought you meant an 03 with the Comp G package!

*dripping with sarcasm*

I know what you meant, I'm just saying that Arbogast has like 50 older models, so when the new ones do arrive, their in deep crap cuz unless they discount the old ones, they might not sell.

WOLF · 03-19-2003, 08:42 PM

If the 2005 GA will come out in only a SE package first, wouldn't that mean that they have something really interesting GT wise that they are fine tuning as we talk about this. Happened with the Vette and some other notibles around.

03-19-2003, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WOLF
If the 2005 GA will come out in only a SE package first, wouldn't that mean that they have something really interesting GT wise that they are fine tuning as we talk about this. Happened with the Vette and some other notibles around.

Maybe. But I think this happened in '98 with the 99 models. Initially the GT wasn't available.

cmoore · 03-20-2003, 07:49 AM

I would be careful about buying the new Grand Prix. I live in Oshawa Ontario where the new GP is build. A lot of my friends work at GM and they have been telling me some of the production problems comming up. Among them:

1. Paint process was spraying a mixture including not only paint, but paint solvent left over from periodic cleaning of paint lines.

2. Design of rain gutters channeling water into trunk and rear compartment. This one was mentioned just this weekend.

Also remember that this is the first model year for the new design. I would give GM a year to sort out any bugs.

03-20-2003, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cmoore
I would be careful about buying the new Grand Prix. I live in Oshawa Ontario where the new GP is build. A lot of my friends work at GM and they have been telling me some of the production problems comming up. Among them:

1. Paint process was spraying a mixture including not only paint, but paint solvent left over from periodic cleaning of paint lines.

2. Design of rain gutters channeling water into trunk and rear compartment. This one was mentioned just this weekend.

Also remember that this is the first model year for the new design. I would give GM a year to sort out any bugs.

You should have been around for the first year of the new Trailblazers, Envoys, and Bravadas! My dad's a supervisor in the Body shop, they actually make and hang the fenders and rear hatches and that kind of stuff. All sorts of weld problems, and those persist to this very day. Sometimes they'll find that some get through missing like 12 weld points on a door or on the frame.

KpazzH0ly · 03-24-2003, 10:38 AM

I don't know exactly if this is all true, but on the pontiac website they show a few of the new pontiacs coming out. I believe that they are going to start a new mark on them called the GXP's series. I also was looking at the GA and it was going to be supercharged at 275 HP. Only one problem, well for me at least, it looks as if they will only be coming out in 4 DR.

PontiacGTboy · 03-25-2003, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KpazzH0ly
I don't know exactly if this is all true, but on the pontiac website they show a few of the new pontiacs coming out. I believe that they are going to start a new mark on them called the GXP's series. I also was looking at the GA and it was going to be supercharged at 275 HP. Only one problem, well for me at least, it looks as if they will only be coming out in 4 DR.

I seriously doubt there will be a Grand Am GXP on the current platform. it is to close to being retired. We wont see one untill after 2005.

Natedog · 03-26-2003, 10:30 PM

ok...my dad works for GMAC and he jus test drove the new supercharged Grand Prix two days ago... he says its one of the fastest autos hes ever driven hands down... good handling as well... im not a huge fan of the looks but definatly a sweet car!

03-15-2003, 10:40 PM	#1
nd4spd GAGT - Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Harrison, Michigan Age: 41 Posts: 161 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Coupe	2004 Ga ? Does anyone have info on the 2004 grand ams, I know they will be changed in 2005, but they just keep showing the 2004 grand prixs. Just wondering if any changes, even if there small, which I'm guessing will come with the 2004s. Looked every where, and yes I searched, . Thanks . __________________ Behold the pale horse, and who sat upon him was death, and hell followed with him.

03-17-2003, 05:42 PM	#3
WOLF GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San Antonio Texas Age: 40 Posts: 321	crud Can't find anything either. Maybe no changes will be made to it for 2004 since they usually sell a car a year in advance EX. 2004 GP, it isn't 2004 yet, yet they are selling 2004 GP's already. So they might just chunk the GA in there in mid 2004 as a 2005 and just carry over the 2003 as 2004's but just put a ton of discounts on them to get them out of the way. You never know, but thats how it works out sometimes.

03-18-2003, 11:06 AM	#6
thehemi GAGT - Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 196 Vehicle: 96 GA, 99 S10	Do not fix what is not broke! The GAs are not really identical, because they took off the side molding in 2003, right? I think. (And they look much better without it.) __________________ Scott Moseman 96 GASE \| 04 GPGT \| 99 S10 http://www.Highflow.com/ http://www.TheHemi.com/

03-19-2003, 08:42 PM	#14
WOLF GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San Antonio Texas Age: 40 Posts: 321	So If the 2005 GA will come out in only a SE package first, wouldn't that mean that they have something really interesting GT wise that they are fine tuning as we talk about this. Happened with the Vette and some other notibles around.

03-24-2003, 10:38 AM	#18
KpazzH0ly GAGT - Member AKA: Paul Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Round Lake hts Il Age: 37 Posts: 676 Vehicle: 2000 Grand AM GT Coupe	NEW GA I don't know exactly if this is all true, but on the pontiac website they show a few of the new pontiacs coming out. I believe that they are going to start a new mark on them called the GXP's series. I also was looking at the GA and it was going to be supercharged at 275 HP. Only one problem, well for me at least, it looks as if they will only be coming out in 4 DR. __________________ 3400 top end for sale : Heads and manifolds for 200 + shipping. PM if interested. tejohnson's #2 fan! SpyhunteR's #2 fan! Toyota certified Tech. (about time)

03-17-2003, 10:00 AM	#2
red rocket GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Westampton, NJ Posts: 423 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT sedan	On the local dealer's website, it showed a 2004 GP in stock, so I went to look yesterday. I was going to take pics to post here. I could not find one anywhere on the lot nor in the showroom. Maybe it sold already or some salesman is driving it home. I was bummed. It was the base GT model, silver. I really need to see this car in person to gauge how good or bad it looks. I haven't heard much about the new GA, though.

03-18-2003, 05:41 AM	#4
red rocket GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Westampton, NJ Posts: 423 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT sedan	What's amazing is that the GAGT models 99, 00,01,02, and 03 have been virtually identical. The only changes were to the stereo, side view mirrors and options such as onstar and the new hood/spoiler package. So that's 5 model years with basically no changes, and there have been no firm changes announced to a future model. Other than hearing about how it will share the same platform with the new Malibu. Than again, the GP has been around since 1997, and is just getting revised for the 04 model. So it went 7 model years without changes. Why is Pontiac so slow with changes? Probably because they concentrated on other new product developments like the Vibe and the Asstek. Well, I may be looking to replace my 99 GT in about a year, and if there ain't a new GA on the market by then, I'll be looking elsewhere.

03-18-2003, 06:33 AM	#5
Vintalage Hey paisanos! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 5,490 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT1	It seems like the other american car companies (chrysler, ford) is like that too. The imports do a better job with refreshing their cars looks.

03-19-2003, 10:13 AM	#8
SilverGA2001 Guest Posts: n/a	You'll be disappointed going to the dealer to look for a 2004 GA, their going to be the same. 2005 model year is the fresh GA, and only then the SE. The current GT will carry over for the first few months at least. Meaning the new GA will be available in SE form only, and you can still buy the current GT. I've been watching our dealership close for the new Grand Prix, I'm so test driving this new beast. Comp G of course.

03-20-2003, 07:49 AM	#16
cmoore GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 66 Posts: 165 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT Sedan	I would be careful about buying the new Grand Prix. I live in Oshawa Ontario where the new GP is build. A lot of my friends work at GM and they have been telling me some of the production problems comming up. Among them: 1. Paint process was spraying a mixture including not only paint, but paint solvent left over from periodic cleaning of paint lines. 2. Design of rain gutters channeling water into trunk and rear compartment. This one was mentioned just this weekend. Also remember that this is the first model year for the new design. I would give GM a year to sort out any bugs.

03-26-2003, 10:30 PM	#20
Natedog Chicks love BLING! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 37 Posts: 204 Vehicle: 03 SC/T	ok...my dad works for GMAC and he jus test drove the new supercharged Grand Prix two days ago... he says its one of the fastest autos hes ever driven hands down... good handling as well... im not a huge fan of the looks but definatly a sweet car! __________________ 2007 Cadillac CTS-V Series lots o' goodies...

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