G.I.Ceo's Turbo Build! - Page 10

AaronGTR · 06-28-2013, 09:03 PM

Pics no worky.

bricooper78 · 06-28-2013, 09:42 PM

^ Applause

even !!! lmmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

G.I.Ceo · 06-29-2013, 05:14 AM

Nice one Aaron.

Pics edited. I always forget to double check the thread after I move the pics in my account.

AaronGTR · 06-29-2013, 06:58 AM

Ah, there they are.

Lookin' good so far. Out of curiosity why did you run the oil feed line up from the fender side? The line would be longer going that way. Was it just easier to route that way or avoid the exhaust manifolds?

Also, I forget but where did you get the manifolds from? From the looks of it that waste gate tube isn't really at a very good angle to divert flow from the turbine. Probably isn't the best setup for controlling boost response. That's always been an unfortunate problem and difficulty though with a turbo setup on these cars. The orientation of the engine, position the turbo has to be in, space available and routing of the downpipe etc kind of limits your options.

G.I.Ceo · 06-29-2013, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Ah, there they are.

Lookin' good so far. Out of curiosity why did you run the oil feed line up from the fender side? The line would be longer going that way. Was it just easier to route that way or avoid the exhaust manifolds?

Also, I forget but where did you get the manifolds from? From the looks of it that waste gate tube isn't really at a very good angle to divert flow from the turbine. Probably isn't the best setup for controlling boost response. That's always been an unfortunate problem and difficulty though with a turbo setup on these cars. The orientation of the engine, position the turbo has to be in, space available and routing of the downpipe etc kind of limits your options.

The oil feed I ran like that to keep it away from the turbo and so I had one smooth path to it. Running it one way or another really made no difference on length of it. I just wanted to make sure I had no bends in it if possible.

The manifolds I got from another member. I sent them to Milzy with all of my stuff and he mocked them up then built the downpipe to fit and made the tubes for the wastegate. I scrapped the old downpipe he had and the manifolds where never made for a external wastegate.

And like you said there is not a lot of space to work with when building a turbo on these cars. For one even before building a turbo you don't have a lot of room but when you do start building a turbo you have to move and orient things to keep away from heat. I did the absolute best job I could have possibly done with the space I had to work with.

[ChaosweaveR] · 06-29-2013, 09:48 AM

Not bad on the progress. Keep us updated!

O1GAGT · 07-10-2013, 10:24 AM

Just a heads up on your double roller as there seems to be an issue with the last batch that was made. http://60degreev6.com/forum/showthre...385#post464385

AaronGTR · 07-10-2013, 10:49 AM

Yikes! Glad I didn't end up buying one.

Not that I don't have my own problems to work on right now. :/
Seems that the heads on my motor, which were reworked TWICE by the machine shop, are still leaking oil from the valve guides. Now I have to swap the stock heads back on... AGAIN.

blckgagt · 07-10-2013, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O1GAGT

Just a heads up on your double roller as there seems to be an issue with the last batch that was made. http://60degreev6.com/forum/showthre...385#post464385

Yeah i saw this the other day. Im glad mine hasn't been installed yet. Ill be waiting to see what comes from it.

G.I.Ceo · 07-10-2013, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O1GAGT

Just a heads up on your double roller as there seems to be an issue with the last batch that was made. http://60degreev6.com/forum/showthre...385#post464385

Thanks for letting me know about this. I called Milzy right away to let him know too. He said he is calling Marc who those parts come from tomorrow and he will let me know right away as soon as he finds something out. I am hoping this is not as bad as it can turn into be. Once I find things out I will let everyone know.

sleepyalero · 07-10-2013, 09:13 PM

Yes also keep me informed as I got one about... 2 or so months ago from Milzy and its sittin in its box in my closet.

Smithkid21 · 07-10-2013, 10:02 PM

This build, why have I not noticed it before?!

MAJOR props man!

G.I.Ceo · 07-15-2013, 04:37 AM

First off I did find out that my DRTC should be OK. Milzy measured what he had in the shop and mine was part of those and he said it looks to be good. He tried it with multiple chains on a mock up car and no issues. So unless i hear different I dodged a bullet on that one.

Second. The car is done! All I have to do is run all the intercooler plumbing and she's ready to fire up. I cant even believe that I can say that its finished. I will say it came out way better then expected and if she runs how she looks then this is going to be one fun boosted GA.

sleepyalero · 07-15-2013, 11:36 AM

Good to hear glad to see another build done just after nick - G

blckgagt · 07-15-2013, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.I.Ceo

First off I did find out that my DRTC should be OK. Milzy measured what he had in the shop and mine was part of those and he said it looks to be good. He tried it with multiple chains on a mock up car and no issues. So unless i hear different I dodged a bullet on that one.

Second. The car is done! All I have to do is run all the intercooler plumbing and she's ready to fire up. I cant even believe that I can say that its finished. I will say it came out way better then expected and if she runs how she looks then this is going to be one fun boosted GA.

Well unfortunately I bought a bad one. Were they saying the chain or the sprocket was the culprit? Anyways, great news dude!

sleepyalero · 07-15-2013, 01:57 PM

I wonder how i figure out if mines bad?

mfuller · 07-15-2013, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepyalero

I wonder how i figure out if mines bad?

Look at the cam gear. If yours is etched with the TCE logo on the front and has 4 oiling slots around the center hole, you're okay. Otherwise, you might very well have a bad one.
Watch this video to test further - chain should stay on the gear through a full rotation. CLICK ME!!!!

G.I.Ceo · 07-15-2013, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blckgagt

Well unfortunately I bought a bad one. Were they saying the chain or the sprocket was the culprit? Anyways, great news dude!

What I was told is that it was the crankshaft sprocket. I guess that the chain wont seat all the way on the sprocket which will cause it to skip a tooth every once in awhile causing the damage that's shown in the video. I guess they are saying that the crankshaft sprocket is cut wrong.

G.I.Ceo · 07-15-2013, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfuller

Look at the cam gear. If yours is etched with the TCE logo on the front and has 4 oiling slots around the center hole, you're okay. Otherwise, you might very well have a bad one.
Watch this video to test further - chain should stay on the gear through a full rotation. CLICK ME!!!!

Mine doesn't have the TCE logo or the 4 oil slots in it.

sleepyalero · 07-15-2013, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.I.Ceo

Mine doesn't have the TCE logo or the 4 oil slots in it.

Neither does mine. But i put it together and spun it with my hand and it doesnt skip...

Heres mine... Is yours the same?

06-28-2013, 09:03 PM	#181
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Pics no worky. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

06-29-2013, 05:14 AM	#183
G.I.Ceo Skinny Wolfe AKA: Randy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 788 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am Gt	Nice one Aaron. Pics edited. I always forget to double check the thread after I move the pics in my account. __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT Turbocharged Garrett GT35 / Turbo Headers / 2.5" high flow DP / Custom SLP Exhaust / Ported 3500 Heads / Ported 3500 UIM/LIM / 65mm TB / Turbonetics Evolution WG / Greddy Type-RS BOV / Casper Adjustable FPR / Casper High Speed Fan Switch / Speedbuilt F/R STB's / Next Level F/R Sway bars / Eibach Springs / Dual Gauge Pod with Aeroforce Gauges / DDM 5000K HID's / Big Four Upgrade / HP Tuners and more! "Living is doing everything you want to do and dying is everything else"

06-29-2013, 06:58 AM	#184
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Ah, there they are. Lookin' good so far. Out of curiosity why did you run the oil feed line up from the fender side? The line would be longer going that way. Was it just easier to route that way or avoid the exhaust manifolds? Also, I forget but where did you get the manifolds from? From the looks of it that waste gate tube isn't really at a very good angle to divert flow from the turbine. Probably isn't the best setup for controlling boost response. That's always been an unfortunate problem and difficulty though with a turbo setup on these cars. The orientation of the engine, position the turbo has to be in, space available and routing of the downpipe etc kind of limits your options. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

06-29-2013, 09:48 AM	#186
[ChaosweaveR] So that's Vtec... AKA: Chris Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Medford, NY Age: 34 Posts: 6,783 Vehicle: ‘15 Honda Accord Sport	Not bad on the progress. Keep us updated! __________________ 2015 Honda Accord Sport Sedan: K24W 2003 Mitsubishi Galant ES: 4G64

07-10-2013, 10:24 AM	#187
O1GAGT GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Phil Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Age: 37 Posts: 1,107 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT Coupe	Just a heads up on your double roller as there seems to be an issue with the last batch that was made. http://60degreev6.com/forum/showthre...385#post464385 __________________ "The world's best cam combined with a poor set of heads will produce an engine that's a dog. But bolt on a set of great heads even with a poor cam, and that engine will still make great power." ~John Lingenfelter

07-10-2013, 10:49 AM	#188
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Yikes! Glad I didn't end up buying one. Not that I don't have my own problems to work on right now. :/ Seems that the heads on my motor, which were reworked TWICE by the machine shop, are still leaking oil from the valve guides. Now I have to swap the stock heads back on... AGAIN. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

07-10-2013, 09:13 PM	#191
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	Yes also keep me informed as I got one about... 2 or so months ago from Milzy and its sittin in its box in my closet. __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

07-10-2013, 10:02 PM	#192
Smithkid21 Boostin' AKA: AJ Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Green Bay, WI Age: 28 Posts: 342 Vehicle: 06 Chevy Cobalt SS/SC	This build, why have I not noticed it before?! MAJOR props man!

07-15-2013, 04:37 AM	#193
G.I.Ceo Skinny Wolfe AKA: Randy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Age: 41 Posts: 788 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am Gt	First off I did find out that my DRTC should be OK. Milzy measured what he had in the shop and mine was part of those and he said it looks to be good. He tried it with multiple chains on a mock up car and no issues. So unless i hear different I dodged a bullet on that one. Second. The car is done! All I have to do is run all the intercooler plumbing and she's ready to fire up. I cant even believe that I can say that its finished. I will say it came out way better then expected and if she runs how she looks then this is going to be one fun boosted GA. __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT Turbocharged Garrett GT35 / Turbo Headers / 2.5" high flow DP / Custom SLP Exhaust / Ported 3500 Heads / Ported 3500 UIM/LIM / 65mm TB / Turbonetics Evolution WG / Greddy Type-RS BOV / Casper Adjustable FPR / Casper High Speed Fan Switch / Speedbuilt F/R STB's / Next Level F/R Sway bars / Eibach Springs / Dual Gauge Pod with Aeroforce Gauges / DDM 5000K HID's / Big Four Upgrade / HP Tuners and more! "Living is doing everything you want to do and dying is everything else"

07-15-2013, 11:36 AM	#194
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	Good to hear glad to see another build done just after nick - G __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

07-15-2013, 01:57 PM	#196
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	I wonder how i figure out if mines bad? __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

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