what trans to use - Page 2

royaldboy26 · 12-11-2013, 08:34 PM

Thanks for the help sleepyalero i will look into everything kinda figured injectors would be to small the 1.5 rocker were only for intake side that came from a guy at ari racing when i bought my cam

royaldboy26 · 12-11-2013, 08:45 PM

Its just a new crank with 77 bearings had to be replaced ill check more into everything else just now starting to build my block

sleepyalero · 12-11-2013, 09:12 PM

No problem. If you are serious. Im interested to see the outcome.

[ChaosweaveR] · 12-11-2013, 09:55 PM

I'll be impressed once I see dyno sheets.

Until then, this is just another pipe dream thread.

3800L67GAM · 12-12-2013, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

I've never even heard of a 440t4 trans. I think maybe you meant a 4t40e?

You would not want to use that trans for several reasons. That is the auto trans for the 4 cylinder grand ams. It's possible there may be a difference in the length of one of the output shafts so it might not match up to your axles properly, I'm not really sure on that point. I do know however that it's not rated to handle the torque your V6 engine makes. It also doesn't have the correct final drive ratio.

You want a 4t45e and you want one out of a GT like yours, because the 4t45e also had different final drive ratios between the GT and the V6 SE. Try and get one from '03-04 if you can. They will have less miles and will have all the improvements GM made up through 2003.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Cutlass_Ciera Here's the link that trans is real it comes in a cutlass ciera not a grand am in which the op stated.

MAC the KNIFE · 12-12-2013, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3800L67GAM

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Cutlass_Ciera Here's the link that trans is real it comes in a cutlass ciera not a grand am in which the op stated.

1st of all, you have a reputation for being a dumbass. Aaron on the otherhand knows his sht.

2nd, quoting wikipedia? your argument is invalid.
we've seen wikipedia mess up even the most obvious car facts. it's downright funny.

3rd, how's that gtp engine swap going for ya?

ItsMeScottG · 12-12-2013, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAC the KNIFE

1st of all, you have a reputation for being a dumbass. Aaron on the otherhand knows his sht.

2nd, quoting wikipedia? your argument is invalid.
we've seen wikipedia mess up even the most obvious car facts. it's downright funny.

3rd, how's that gtp engine swap going for ya?

Oh here we go again

[ChaosweaveR] · 12-12-2013, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3800L67GAM

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Cutlass_Ciera Here's the link that trans is real it comes in a cutlass ciera not a grand am in which the op stated.

pls go away

TDavis · 12-12-2013, 01:06 PM

royal is 3800L67's other account

royaldboy26 · 12-12-2013, 02:15 PM

Royal is a new guy that started a thread to see what other options were out there like to get stuff rt the first time thanks to all the good input

H.O. Driver · 12-12-2013, 02:23 PM

I think it would be more of a challenge to get a non electronically (vacuum) controlled trans to work on the car than an electronically controlled trans. With the tuners out there it would be easier to change tables than to try and delete and make it think it is there.

Honestly the amount you will spend to swap in a different trans, it would be cheaper to build up the 4t45-e for the power levels you are looking at. If you are going 800hp+ caged drag car then a swap would be in order for sure.

Good luck with the project, I really want to see someone pull a huge build off and get to the track, there has been lots of talk but not much action in this GA World.

sleepyalero · 12-12-2013, 02:33 PM

Nick still has not gotten us dyno numbere on his ride.... or gi ceo as well.... both did turbo ga builds and we have no numbers....

royaldboy26 · 12-12-2013, 03:50 PM

Im also doing a turbo build im gonna stick around here till its done so i can post numbers desktop dyno has me at 420hp runnin only 12psi im sure i can get that ill post a video of my smallblock fiero in a couple mins so i can show im very capable of doing a grandam like i said beforw thinks to everyone that had good input on my trans question

royaldboy26 · 12-12-2013, 03:55 PM

My motor is up ill post real hp and track times when able to get to track would let me post video and this was the only pic i jad in my phone

sleepyalero · 12-12-2013, 04:23 PM

I dont see pic.

royaldboy26 · 12-12-2013, 04:58 PM

The pic s in profile album its just a pics of the motor it wouldnt let me upload video that was the only pic i had in my phone

WireGeek · 12-12-2013, 05:07 PM

OK I'm new to the forums myself and even though I've worked professionally as a Mechanic and hot Rod Builder at www.zoomers-automotive.com in Denver, I'm still a NOOB when it comes to transmissions in my car.

I was under the impression that my 1999 Grand Am has a 4T40-E transmission in it, and that the 4T45-E was later in the years these cars were manufactured. I believe I read that the 4T45-E was used from 2003 to 2005. I have no idea if this is correct and for that matter which transmission my car actually has in it?

I found this trans on the web

http://www.importperformancetrans.co...sion-4311.html

3K for a transmission seems a little pricey and I'm not sure if it is worth the money for the unit?

Also Milzy Motorsports has a 4T65-E trans & conversion kit for 4K http://www.milzymotorsports.com/gran...onversion-kit/
and again I'm wondering if this is worth the 4K, it says it comes with a PCM written for the new trans.

So just like royalboy I'm interested in what is the best way to go for a transmission in my 1999 GA SE once I'm ready to rebuild the car and make it my new toy.

I haven't talked to my Tranny guy (sounds weird to write that, Jerry would probably be pissed if he knew I called him a Tranny) and asked him about rebuilding a transmission in the car. He rebuilt the one in the car in 2005 when the car had 150K miles on it, and his rebuild has lasted another 150k miles and is still going so I'm thinking he did a good job on the rebuild last time around, and the number of transmissions he's rebuilt with no problems is impressive. He is a builder for AAMCO and in 2012 he overhauled 328 transmissions with 4 comebacks.

This time around I want to build a decent engine for it, and put a transmission behind it that will hold up.

Any info or advice I would greatly appreciate as I am only doing research at this point and getting a budget together to do this project.

royaldboy26 · 12-12-2013, 05:15 PM

From what ive foind out 4t45e built will hold up to a built motor i believe ur car has a 4t45

MAC the KNIFE · 12-12-2013, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WireGeek

...
I was under the impression that my 1999 Grand Am has a 4T40-E transmission in it, and that the 4T45-E was later in the years these cars were manufactured. I believe I read that the 4T45-E was used from 2003 to 2005. I have no idea if this is correct and for that matter which transmission my car actually has in it?...

i know my 99 gt has a 4t45e. i think all the v6 models came with 4t45's, but the final drive gear was different from the gt to the se.

sleepyalero · 12-12-2013, 05:58 PM

I was gonna buy that 4t45 from ipt. Its 2900 and built. Yeah its gonna be pricey. But I decdied to go with the 6 speed manual instead for an extra 2000

12-11-2013, 09:12 PM	#23
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	No problem. If you are serious. Im interested to see the outcome. __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

12-11-2013, 09:55 PM	#24
[ChaosweaveR] So that's Vtec... AKA: Chris Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Medford, NY Age: 34 Posts: 6,783 Vehicle: ‘15 Honda Accord Sport	I'll be impressed once I see dyno sheets. Until then, this is just another pipe dream thread. __________________ 2015 Honda Accord Sport Sedan: K24W 2003 Mitsubishi Galant ES: 4G64

12-12-2013, 01:06 PM	#29
TDavis GAGT - Junkie AKA: Tanner Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Columbia, MO Age: 29 Posts: 3,871 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SC/T	royal is 3800L67's other account __________________ Mods: Alotta sht

12-12-2013, 02:23 PM	#31
H.O. Driver I drive a V6 H.O. AKA: Timmah! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boyne City, MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,694 Vehicle: 99 GT, 03 DTS, 04 SRX	I think it would be more of a challenge to get a non electronically (vacuum) controlled trans to work on the car than an electronically controlled trans. With the tuners out there it would be easier to change tables than to try and delete and make it think it is there. Honestly the amount you will spend to swap in a different trans, it would be cheaper to build up the 4t45-e for the power levels you are looking at. If you are going 800hp+ caged drag car then a swap would be in order for sure. Good luck with the project, I really want to see someone pull a huge build off and get to the track, there has been lots of talk but not much action in this GA World. __________________ 1999 GA GT - lots of mods - Sold and missing it... 2001 GP GTP Special Edtion - Sold 2002 T/A - T-Tops, AT, LS6 intake, mainly stock - Sold 2003 Cadillac DTS - Gangsta Grandpa car - Gone 2004 Cadillac SRX - Baby hauler -Sold and missing it Life is too short to drive boring cars....why is that all I have now??????

12-12-2013, 02:33 PM	#32
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	Nick still has not gotten us dyno numbere on his ride.... or gi ceo as well.... both did turbo ga builds and we have no numbers.... __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

12-11-2013, 08:34 PM	#21
royaldboy26 GAGT - Newbie AKA: danny Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: eastpointe mi Posts: 16 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt	Thanks for the help sleepyalero i will look into everything kinda figured injectors would be to small the 1.5 rocker were only for intake side that came from a guy at ari racing when i bought my cam

12-11-2013, 08:45 PM	#22
royaldboy26 GAGT - Newbie AKA: danny Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: eastpointe mi Posts: 16 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt	Its just a new crank with 77 bearings had to be replaced ill check more into everything else just now starting to build my block

12-12-2013, 02:15 PM	#30
royaldboy26 GAGT - Newbie AKA: danny Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: eastpointe mi Posts: 16 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt	Royal is a new guy that started a thread to see what other options were out there like to get stuff rt the first time thanks to all the good input

12-12-2013, 03:50 PM	#33
royaldboy26 GAGT - Newbie AKA: danny Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: eastpointe mi Posts: 16 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt	Im also doing a turbo build im gonna stick around here till its done so i can post numbers desktop dyno has me at 420hp runnin only 12psi im sure i can get that ill post a video of my smallblock fiero in a couple mins so i can show im very capable of doing a grandam like i said beforw thinks to everyone that had good input on my trans question

12-12-2013, 03:55 PM	#34
royaldboy26 GAGT - Newbie AKA: danny Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: eastpointe mi Posts: 16 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt	My motor is up ill post real hp and track times when able to get to track would let me post video and this was the only pic i jad in my phone

12-12-2013, 04:23 PM	#35
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	I dont see pic. __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

12-12-2013, 04:58 PM	#36
royaldboy26 GAGT - Newbie AKA: danny Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: eastpointe mi Posts: 16 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt	The pic s in profile album its just a pics of the motor it wouldnt let me upload video that was the only pic i had in my phone

12-12-2013, 05:07 PM	#37
WireGeek GAGT - Member AKA: Dave Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Niwot, Colorado Posts: 34 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE	OK I'm new to the forums myself and even though I've worked professionally as a Mechanic and hot Rod Builder at www.zoomers-automotive.com in Denver, I'm still a NOOB when it comes to transmissions in my car. I was under the impression that my 1999 Grand Am has a 4T40-E transmission in it, and that the 4T45-E was later in the years these cars were manufactured. I believe I read that the 4T45-E was used from 2003 to 2005. I have no idea if this is correct and for that matter which transmission my car actually has in it? I found this trans on the web http://www.importperformancetrans.co...sion-4311.html 3K for a transmission seems a little pricey and I'm not sure if it is worth the money for the unit? Also Milzy Motorsports has a 4T65-E trans & conversion kit for 4K http://www.milzymotorsports.com/gran...onversion-kit/ and again I'm wondering if this is worth the 4K, it says it comes with a PCM written for the new trans. So just like royalboy I'm interested in what is the best way to go for a transmission in my 1999 GA SE once I'm ready to rebuild the car and make it my new toy. I haven't talked to my Tranny guy (sounds weird to write that, Jerry would probably be pissed if he knew I called him a Tranny) and asked him about rebuilding a transmission in the car. He rebuilt the one in the car in 2005 when the car had 150K miles on it, and his rebuild has lasted another 150k miles and is still going so I'm thinking he did a good job on the rebuild last time around, and the number of transmissions he's rebuilt with no problems is impressive. He is a builder for AAMCO and in 2012 he overhauled 328 transmissions with 4 comebacks. This time around I want to build a decent engine for it, and put a transmission behind it that will hold up. Any info or advice I would greatly appreciate as I am only doing research at this point and getting a budget together to do this project.

12-12-2013, 05:15 PM	#38
royaldboy26 GAGT - Newbie AKA: danny Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: eastpointe mi Posts: 16 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt	From what ive foind out 4t45e built will hold up to a built motor i believe ur car has a 4t45

12-12-2013, 05:58 PM	#40
sleepyalero ▂ ▃ ▅ ▆ █ ▆ ▅ ▃ ▂ AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 5,911 Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS	I was gonna buy that 4t45 from ipt. Its 2900 and built. Yeah its gonna be pricey. But I decdied to go with the 6 speed manual instead for an extra 2000 __________________ 2001 \| Alero GLS \| 3400 \| 6MT 2012 BMW S1000RR, full exhaust, BRENTUNE, power commander 5, dyno tune, 198WHP.

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