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Mr. Common Sense
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Loves Park, IL USA
Age: 47
Posts: 2,031
Vehicle: 2000 Alero GLS sedan
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Tell me about it. Who needs to remove the hood to do an oil change??????
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GAGT - Member
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: chicago, il
Posts: 852
Vehicle: 99 GT "HYBREED"
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Testing my sons new tablet, pics seem a bit too small...
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GAGT - Member
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: chicago, il
Posts: 852
Vehicle: 99 GT "HYBREED"
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GAGT - Member
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: chicago, il
Posts: 852
Vehicle: 99 GT "HYBREED"
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Spoils
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Detroit
Age: 34
Posts: 2,926
Vehicle: 2015 Sierra, F80 M3
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always cuttin' up
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: TAMPA
Age: 37
Posts: 1,165
Vehicle: Red 99 GT coupe
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wait a minute. last month you had the engine out of it, in a garage. now it's on a lift? this is what happens when you take your car in for a $10 oil change special, kids.
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![]() 2009 G8 gt no more Big Gears, buh-bye coilovers... illusions of making this a racecar have passed. 12.78 @112.. not a bad grocery getter -still LOUD AS FCK though 2006 GTO completely stock. rip at 39k. 99 GAGT 108k miles, Borla cat-back, CAI, 65mm TB, EGR delete, WOT-tech intakes, F-Body Brakes w/ Hawk HPS pads. Suede headliner, heated seats, jvc HU, infinity speakers+amp+subs, LEDs -probably less than 1000 miles on it in the last 3 years... |
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BlingWithBallz
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Detroit area, MI
Age: 43
Posts: 12,254
Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr
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I've seen them both ways, unfiltered and with a mushroom style filter cap. Also seen them with just mesh screens over them, and a few inside CF or aluminum manifolds with one main filter on them, or no filter if it was a race car. There are many ways they can be set up.
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Spoils
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Detroit
Age: 34
Posts: 2,926
Vehicle: 2015 Sierra, F80 M3
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Looks like this.
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ON THAT WORK GRIND
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Rochester, NY
Age: 28
Posts: 1,608
Vehicle: 00' GAGT
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2000 - GAGT 14.63 @ 92.9 -Full LX9 with CAI, 65MM TB, 2.5in DP, Borla Cat-Back, Crappy rubber, Magic, Quick tune 2008 - Kawasaki Ninja 250r - Slip on exhaust, K&N, Jetted, Sprockets, Lowered and the Girlfriend's now 1984 - Honda Nighthawk 700s - Stock 2002 - Ford F150 Harley Davidson - Ported Supercharger, 8lb pulley, Tuned 13.49 @ 102 2019 - Tesla Model 3 Performance - Stock 11.7 @ 113 |
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GAGT - Junkie
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Columbia, MO
Age: 29
Posts: 3,871
Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SC/T
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Meh, not to sht on your parade but BMW's are overrated.
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Detroit
Age: 34
Posts: 2,926
Vehicle: 2015 Sierra, F80 M3
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I would love to know why.
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Detroit
Age: 34
Posts: 2,926
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E90. Still need to be practical. E93 is the vert.
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Tech Guy
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Houston, Texas
Age: 28
Posts: 686
Vehicle: 2005 BMW 330CI ZHP
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Nothing wrong with a BMW. Of course they will cost quite a bit in maintenance but then again most German cars will. w makes some beautiful cars. Personally I'm still a fan of the e46.
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Previously a 2003 Pontiac Grand Am SE2 3.4L V6 SC/T Spoiler, PFYC Sway SpeedBuilt bars, PFYC SpeedBuilt strut braces, Rear disc brake setup, Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines, red painted calipers, 20% Black Tint, Cat-Back Exhaust, Amber Grille Lighting, Pioneer AVIC-940BT with XM, Live Traffic, & Rear-view Camera, Front Bra, lower bumper grille, Stubby Antenna, Michelin Defender Tires... My Current vehicle: 2005 BMW 330CI ZHP |
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Unknown.
Posts: 5,911
Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS
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Im not a bmw fan. They are junk to me.
But oddly. I love the m6
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Tech Guy
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Houston, Texas
Age: 28
Posts: 686
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Previously a 2003 Pontiac Grand Am SE2 3.4L V6 SC/T Spoiler, PFYC Sway SpeedBuilt bars, PFYC SpeedBuilt strut braces, Rear disc brake setup, Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines, red painted calipers, 20% Black Tint, Cat-Back Exhaust, Amber Grille Lighting, Pioneer AVIC-940BT with XM, Live Traffic, & Rear-view Camera, Front Bra, lower bumper grille, Stubby Antenna, Michelin Defender Tires... My Current vehicle: 2005 BMW 330CI ZHP |
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GAGT - Junkie
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Columbia, MO
Age: 29
Posts: 3,871
Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SC/T
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I wouldn't say they're junk or crappy cars by any means but I would never buy one. Not to mention 90% of its owners base are tools. Not saying OP is one.
Like if someone where to give me one for free I would obviously take it but I would never buy one if I had the money. I like to build upon "underpowered" but good enough platforms rather then have one that is already overpowered , sounds stupid but meh. Not to mention simple maintenance on one isn't cheap, but that can be solved if you're mechanically inclined and have the tools.
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Tech Guy
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Houston, Texas
Age: 28
Posts: 686
Vehicle: 2005 BMW 330CI ZHP
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I'll consider an e46 when I'm in the market for a newer car later this year. But I'd still rather go the GTO route if it's possible.
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Previously a 2003 Pontiac Grand Am SE2 3.4L V6 SC/T Spoiler, PFYC Sway SpeedBuilt bars, PFYC SpeedBuilt strut braces, Rear disc brake setup, Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines, red painted calipers, 20% Black Tint, Cat-Back Exhaust, Amber Grille Lighting, Pioneer AVIC-940BT with XM, Live Traffic, & Rear-view Camera, Front Bra, lower bumper grille, Stubby Antenna, Michelin Defender Tires... My Current vehicle: 2005 BMW 330CI ZHP |
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Detroit
Age: 34
Posts: 2,926
Vehicle: 2015 Sierra, F80 M3
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You've provided nothing constructive to my inquiry, except to show your only actual knowledge are the stereotypes you have gleaned which are high maintenance cost and owners being tools. I'll gladly pay the maintenance cost on this and my Audi S4 for years to come. It's truly immaterial how much more it is when speaking general maintenance. My oil changes were every 3k at $50 for the GAGT. My oil changes now are $115 each at 5-6k miles (M will be close to the cost of the GAGT changes), and could have gone longer per Blackstone Labs analysis. $150 vs $230 a year? Please. You'd be a fool not to pay the $80 premium per year to upgrade. Every car has wear and tear and the parts cost difference is immaterial as well if you know how to source and procure. And also you have mentioned, if you are mechanically inclined, it's not so bad. It boils down to how you take care of it, how you drive it etc. Zero issues with the S to date. But if you have qualms about the cost of basic maintenance that is virtually immaterial in price then that is your choice and that's fine. Some people just have different priorities and do not want to pay extra, no matter how much. But, I'm a comparison shopper, and I will always stack up dollars to what I'm getting for my money... I had a Grand Am. Looking back, I don't know what I was thinking. I didn't know any better. I put more money into that Grand Am (purchase price, maintenance, mods) than I have for the S4 (purchase price plus general/preventative maintenance over the last 40k miles) and it STILL wasn't half the car the S4 is now. Find any of the cars above and see if you can't take them for a test. Take some fast corners during your drive and tell me you can bring an "underpowered" car up to those accelerating, handling and braking standards.
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GAGT - Junkie
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Columbia, MO
Age: 29
Posts: 3,871
Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SC/T
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I knew there would be a responding paragraph. It's a personal opinion. Sorry I still think they're overrated. There are stereotypes for a reason, like I said, was not saying you where one specifically.Sorry I don't make bank like you do hah. BTW its not like I'm saying I could bring the GA up to those standards. GA had nothing to do with this.
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Unknown.
Posts: 5,911
Vehicle: 2001 olds alero GLS
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I know two people that has/had them. One person who still has one. Its always got problems or is broken down so she doesnt drive it.
The other my buddy had. It was a 2004 330xi. One day his axle shaft popped out of place (102k miles) and at 104k miles... well thats when all hell broke loose. Jumped timing. Bent all rods. And cracked 4 pistons. Imo they are decent cars until 90k miles then at that point id want it gone. Seems they arent reliable or worth having after 100k miles.
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