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Old 02-19-2014, 08:23 PM   #6221
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:03 PM   #6222
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I knew you would jump in because I know you've worked on them. At least you can articulate why they are overrated.

In my experiences though, build quality is day and night. Sold my Grand Am with 92.5k miles and everything was rattling, creaking, etc. Stupid little things were breaking after 60k that weren't expensive but annoyances. The Audi just cruised past 92.1k miles on my way to work this morning. Everything is quiet.

Well, like I said... in my experience... they aren't any better. My friends '00 3 series had all the finish peeling off his interior parts and all the upholstery fabric was coming unglued and flapping in the wind. Also the rubber trim around the door openings was constantly coming unglued. Most of the mechanicals were pretty solid, but the plastic T-stat housing and coolant tank both failed early and needed to be replaced, and he had a nagging problem with a cam timing sensor that kept setting codes even after being replaced.

There was also the fact that there was no easy way to drain and fill the trans fluid, and the owners manual said that it and the diff fluid never needed to be changed, while everyone on E46fanatic said that if they weren't changed you would have problems. And quite a few cars had problems with weak/thin sheet metal on the unibody at one of the rear suspension piece attachment points that caused the metal to tear and need a very costly repair (luckily my friends never needed that). His did like to eat rear tires though. Always wore down the tread on the inside of the tire, even with a proper alignment.

I liked it's suspension design though and the nice flat under tray on the front, the brake cooling ducts incorporated in the front bumper, and the power rear quarter windows that would pop out for ventilation. Like I said, really well engineered in some areas... and in others they did things that just seem stupid.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:12 PM   #6223
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The Audi just cruised past 92.1k miles on my way to work this morning. Everything is quiet.
Oh gawd please tell me the timing belt has been done already?

The biggest reason I walked away from an s4
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:07 AM   #6224
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Oh gawd please tell me the timing belt has been done already?

The biggest reason I walked away from an s4
No sir. I was very worried about it. But it only affected pre 10/2004 builds IIRC. Newer engines are still showing few signs of failure (that are reported anyway). I got very paranoid a couple years ago and tried to get it fixed under warranty but my mechanic looked at the car and said all was good. Still no clacking or wierd noises at startup. I don't run her hard until she fully warms up.
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Old 02-20-2014, 04:48 AM   #6225
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Old 02-20-2014, 04:27 PM   #6226
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Just ordered some black plasti dip today - gonna black out the chrome around the windows. Anyone ever done this yet?
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Old 02-20-2014, 04:46 PM   #6227
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Old 02-20-2014, 04:48 PM   #6228
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Just ordered some black plasti dip today - gonna black out the chrome around the windows. Anyone ever done this yet?
Yes it's been done before.
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Old 02-20-2014, 04:54 PM   #6229
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No I mean does anyone know how to do it? Like where to tape off?
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:07 PM   #6230
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:17 PM   #6231
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Just ordered some black plasti dip today - gonna black out the chrome around the windows. Anyone ever done this yet?
home depot is beginning to carry plastidip, but it's still hit or miss around tampa stores.

masking tape and newspaper. and dont worry too much about the overspray, plastidip does peel off easily when dry, if it's thick enough.
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:31 PM   #6232
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if he's doing the chrome trim around the window i wouldn't worry too much about the glass. a simple razor blade and some glass cleaner would take care of that. tape off the painted parts and have fun.
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:53 PM   #6233
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home depot is beginning to carry plastidip, but it's still hit or miss around tampa stores.

masking tape and newspaper. and dont worry too much about the overspray, plastidip does peel off easily when dry, if it's thick enough.
Pepboys carries it, however, I used to work for them and that was a rather painful experience so I don't recommend doing business with pepboys.
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Old 02-20-2014, 08:40 PM   #6234
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if he's doing the chrome trim around the window i wouldn't worry too much about the glass. a simple razor blade and some glass cleaner would take care of that. tape off the painted parts and have fun.
Im gonna guess that I should just take a razor and cut the stuff in the crack of the door?

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Pepboys carries it, however, I used to work for them and that was a rather painful experience so I don't recommend doing business with pepboys.
I had the same thing with Autozone. Were the employees just dumba$ses or what?
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:50 PM   #6235
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Old 02-20-2014, 10:50 PM   #6236
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:53 AM   #6237
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at 0:09, stewartfn18's vette is in the background, turning left.
at 0:19, the camera turns to my g8. you can hear my exhaust into 2nd gear, i'm louder than the viper
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Old 02-21-2014, 07:56 AM   #6238
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Well, like I said... in my experience... they aren't any better. My friends '00 3 series had all the finish peeling off his interior parts and all the upholstery fabric was coming unglued and flapping in the wind. Also the rubber trim around the door openings was constantly coming unglued. Most of the mechanicals were pretty solid, but the plastic T-stat housing and coolant tank both failed early and needed to be replaced, and he had a nagging problem with a cam timing sensor that kept setting codes even after being replaced.

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I liked it's suspension design though and the nice flat under tray on the front, the brake cooling ducts incorporated in the front bumper, and the power rear quarter windows that would pop out for ventilation. Like I said, really well engineered in some areas... and in others they did things that just seem stupid.
One of the guys in my old unit had a 3series coupe. Nice looking car in 2door form. But he had his issues too, one being the coolant tank as well.
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Old 02-21-2014, 08:03 AM   #6239
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Im gonna guess that I should just take a razor and cut the stuff in the crack of the door?



I had the same thing with Autozone. Were the employees just dumba$ses or what?
Management sucked, the district manager was a dumbass, me and him didn't get along what-so-ever. He tried to give me some bogas final write up (when I did nothing bad and had never been written up before). Well long story short, I got in touch the CEO and my write up was dismissed and he was written up for writing me up without valid reasoning. He really didn't like me especially after all of that happened. Well I disliked him too so I moved on.
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