KYB GR-2 - YES, all FOUR! In stock and ready to ship....

bmarks · 03-27-2003, 02:42 PM

Here's the ordering link: Order KYB GR-2 from PFYC.com

Rba007 · 03-27-2003, 02:54 PM

Great news... Here is my question: Why do you say they arent proper for performance springs? They work great for me...

bmarks · 03-27-2003, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by Rba007
Great news... Here is my question: Why do you say they arent proper for performance springs? They work great for me...

It's all about how you define "proper" and "great". Your "great" may be someone else's "stiff ride". We have to be careful how we sell them so we don't mislead anyone into buying them and expecting a perfect ride with lowering springs.

Greed4Speed · 03-27-2003, 03:11 PM

THAT is cheaper than factory???? Looks like I'll have an excuse to get them.

Must focus.....exhaust system first..........

Stock struts aren't bouncy yet though.

SpyhunteR · 03-27-2003, 03:26 PM

sorry this came out of nowhere...

Fittipaldi Force what's the offset on those rims?

and yeh.. finally KYB rears.. now I can do what I've been needing to do

it's been too long... get them to get some adjustables made!!!

bmarks · 03-27-2003, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpyhunteR
sorry this came out of nowhere...

Fittipaldi Force what's the offset on those rims?

and yeh.. finally KYB rears.. now I can do what I've been needing to do

it's been too long... get them to get some adjustables made!!!

Please e-mail info@pfyc.com and someone there can help. I don't know offhand.

GroovyGT · 03-27-2003, 03:29 PM

So I take it that these offer a stiffer ride than new stock struts?

Craig99SE2 · 03-27-2003, 03:44 PM

The GR2 strut is not much stiffer than stock. They are just about equal to Monroe Sensa-Tracs. It is KYB's "generic" strut.

By not "proper" for lowering springs, that applies to *ANY* strut with the same piston length as the factory. If you drop the car 1", you need a 1" shorter piston on the strut to get "optimum" performance. Will it work with stock length ... of course! Just don't expect a free warranty replacement when you tell them you have lowering springs. (Just tell them you have stock springs!).

PFYC is just covering their a$$. With today's blood-thirsty laywers, you would too!

iceman · 03-27-2003, 03:49 PM

Do the rears cost more than fronts or something??

bmarks · 03-27-2003, 03:51 PM

Yes, almost $20 per strut.

iceman · 03-27-2003, 03:53 PM

Think you can sell Front Pairs / Rear pairs separate? I got a set of fronts here but could use rears..

bmarks · 03-27-2003, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by iceman
Think you can sell Front Pairs / Rear pairs separate? I got a set of fronts here but could use rears..

Sure. Let me add that now.

AaronGTR · 03-27-2003, 10:51 PM

About time. I thought we'd have to wait forever for the rears. The back of my car seems a little bouncy so it could use stiffer struts. I'm glad we can buy them separate too because I already have the fronts. Only thing that sucks is when I put them on I'll have to have another alignment.

Panacea · 03-27-2003, 11:18 PM

So what exactly do these do? Do these make the ride "stiffer" or do they make the ride "softer"? I'm lost. Are there performance gains over the factory?

Monello · 03-28-2003, 01:32 AM

Hey, you mis typed the price at the bottom. =)

Price of $244.99 is per set of four struts. Leave quantity at 1 and you will get all four struts

Chaotic Reality · 03-28-2003, 05:10 AM

Shouldn't this go in the suspension forum?

-Jon

Craig99SE2 · 03-28-2003, 07:05 AM

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Originally posted by Panacea
So what exactly do these do? Do these make the ride "stiffer" or do they make the ride "softer"? I'm lost. Are there performance gains over the factory?

Uh ... the description is pretty self explanatory on the PFYC page ... 10-15% stiffer than stock!

Panacea · 03-28-2003, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by Craig99SE2
Uh ... the description is pretty self explanatory on the PFYC page ... 10-15% stiffer than stock!

Uhhh, you need to re-read... "Offering dampening characteristics 10-15% greater than that of the factory struts, you'll find the KYB GR-2 an excellent choice for replacement of your factory struts. "

When I hear dampening I think softer. Hence why I was confused.... Nowhere did it say 10-15% stiffer

Craig99SE2 · 03-28-2003, 11:26 AM

Dampening being the the ability to absorb a said force. By 10-15% greater, it means it can damp 10-15% more force thus making it 10-15% stiffer ON AVERAGE. Granted a strut is a non-linear device ...

Panacea · 03-28-2003, 11:30 AM

Sounds good! So, asside from being stiffer, are there any other performance gains? Pardon my ignorance, struts aren't my thang

03-27-2003, 02:42 PM	#1
bmarks The PFYC Guy AKA: Brian Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 45 Posts: 496 Vehicle: Various	KYB GR-2 - YES, all FOUR! In stock and ready to ship.... Here's the ordering link: Order KYB GR-2 from PFYC.com __________________ - Brian A. Marks PFYC.com's Grand Am Performance and Accessory Store

03-27-2003, 02:54 PM	#2
Rba007 GAGT Oldie AKA: Dave Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: N. Muskegon MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,444 Vehicle: 04 Grand Prix GT	Great news... Here is my question: Why do you say they arent proper for performance springs? They work great for me... __________________ Dave's Sexy Ride "Sul3LiME883: i'm drunk tho. i'd throw myself at a penis right now, i bet." "When you step over the line, your nuts are mine" "ArcticSun GT: u do smell dave, smell like awesomeness"

03-27-2003, 03:11 PM	#4
Greed4Speed Duke of Duct Tape Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: FTW, TX Age: 49 Posts: 1,021 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT sedan	THAT is cheaper than factory???? Looks like I'll have an excuse to get them. Must focus.....exhaust system first.......... Stock struts aren't bouncy yet though. __________________ I like Cobras, they taste like chicken. 01 GAGT1 w/156k miles 00 Camaro SS - AKA Rogue.

03-27-2003, 03:26 PM	#5
SpyhunteR #1 hater AKA: Rob Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas Age: 38 Posts: 4,968 Vehicle: 01' 2.4T GA / 08 TBSS	sorry this came out of nowhere... Fittipaldi Force what's the offset on those rims? and yeh.. finally KYB rears.. now I can do what I've been needing to do it's been too long... get them to get some adjustables made!!! __________________ Hey kids going to Vegas? Let me help you help me help you! Shoot me an email or PM for all your Vegas Night Club bottle hallucinations & strip club desires! FACEBOOKFACE! "Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you."

03-27-2003, 03:44 PM	#8
Craig99SE2 Mr. Know It All AKA: Craig Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Commerce Twp., MI Age: 48 Posts: 1,349 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Coupe	The GR2 strut is not much stiffer than stock. They are just about equal to Monroe Sensa-Tracs. It is KYB's "generic" strut. By not "proper" for lowering springs, that applies to ANY strut with the same piston length as the factory. If you drop the car 1", you need a 1" shorter piston on the strut to get "optimum" performance. Will it work with stock length ... of course! Just don't expect a free warranty replacement when you tell them you have lowering springs. (Just tell them you have stock springs!). PFYC is just covering their a$$. With today's blood-thirsty laywers, you would too! __________________ Project 13-Second NA GASE - 1999 Grand Am SE - RSM Heads,UIM,LIM,62mm TB,AFE Filter,RSM WAI,TOGs,DynoMax Hi-Flo Cat,SLP,DynoMax,ASE Chip,Mobil 1,Accel DIS,Taylor Wires,Denso Iridium,Hyper Ground,FFP Pulley,B&M SuperCooler,RedLine D4 ATF,Poly Drivetrain Mounts - Estimated 250HP ... Dyno Charts Soon!

03-27-2003, 03:29 PM	#7
GroovyGT Just Married.... Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Thomaston, ME Age: 43 Posts: 196 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1	So I take it that these offer a stiffer ride than new stock struts?

03-27-2003, 03:49 PM	#9
iceman woop woop AKA: Seth Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Age: 41 Posts: 10,528 Vehicle: 97 Blazer - 84 Fiero	Do the rears cost more than fronts or something?? __________________ --Seth Support GrandAmGT.com sponsors! My Picture Gallery \| GoneDragRacing.com Drag Racing Photos & Videos

03-27-2003, 03:51 PM	#10
bmarks The PFYC Guy AKA: Brian Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 45 Posts: 496 Vehicle: Various	Yes, almost $20 per strut. __________________ - Brian A. Marks PFYC.com's Grand Am Performance and Accessory Store

03-27-2003, 03:53 PM	#11
iceman woop woop AKA: Seth Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Age: 41 Posts: 10,528 Vehicle: 97 Blazer - 84 Fiero	Think you can sell Front Pairs / Rear pairs separate? I got a set of fronts here but could use rears.. __________________ --Seth Support GrandAmGT.com sponsors! My Picture Gallery \| GoneDragRacing.com Drag Racing Photos & Videos

03-27-2003, 10:51 PM	#13
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	About time. I thought we'd have to wait forever for the rears. The back of my car seems a little bouncy so it could use stiffer struts. I'm glad we can buy them separate too because I already have the fronts. Only thing that sucks is when I put them on I'll have to have another alignment. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

03-27-2003, 11:18 PM	#14
Panacea Mmmm Donuts. AKA: Macleod52 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rock Island, IL Age: 40 Posts: 3,160 Vehicle: '09 Malibu LTZ	So what exactly do these do? Do these make the ride "stiffer" or do they make the ride "softer"? I'm lost. Are there performance gains over the factory?

03-28-2003, 01:32 AM	#15
Monello Boost Bro Power Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Chicago! Age: 37 Posts: 357 Vehicle: 02 Trans Am	Hey, you mis typed the price at the bottom. =) Price of $244.99 is per set of four struts. Leave quantity at 1 and you will get all four struts __________________ 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS-6 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP

03-28-2003, 05:10 AM	#16
Chaotic Reality GAGT - Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Denver, Colorado Age: 38 Posts: 293 Vehicle: '04 Nissan SE-R Spec V	Shouldn't this go in the suspension forum? -Jon __________________ Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

03-28-2003, 11:26 AM	#19
Craig99SE2 Mr. Know It All AKA: Craig Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Commerce Twp., MI Age: 48 Posts: 1,349 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Coupe	Dampening being the the ability to absorb a said force. By 10-15% greater, it means it can damp 10-15% more force thus making it 10-15% stiffer ON AVERAGE. Granted a strut is a non-linear device ... __________________ Project 13-Second NA GASE - 1999 Grand Am SE - RSM Heads,UIM,LIM,62mm TB,AFE Filter,RSM WAI,TOGs,DynoMax Hi-Flo Cat,SLP,DynoMax,ASE Chip,Mobil 1,Accel DIS,Taylor Wires,Denso Iridium,Hyper Ground,FFP Pulley,B&M SuperCooler,RedLine D4 ATF,Poly Drivetrain Mounts - Estimated 250HP ... Dyno Charts Soon!

03-28-2003, 11:30 AM	#20
Panacea Mmmm Donuts. AKA: Macleod52 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rock Island, IL Age: 40 Posts: 3,160 Vehicle: '09 Malibu LTZ	Sounds good! So, asside from being stiffer, are there any other performance gains? Pardon my ignorance, struts aren't my thang

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