Special Tool for "Tuner Lugs"?

Rba007 · 03-31-2003, 11:25 AM

Here is my predicament:

Front wheel lugs go on dandy.

Rear ones, the lugs themselves seem to protrude further, which causes the lug nut to not be able to be as secure as I would like it. My little hex head fitting that goes inside of the lug nut cant get into the rear ones once they are tightned a bit. Any suggestions? Something needs to fit in there, but still not hit the lug.

AMRAAM4 · 03-31-2003, 12:48 PM

can you take a pic, it will be easier for us to conceptualize.

As for now, all I can say is...I've never seen tuner lugs work effectively

PACE · 03-31-2003, 04:23 PM

Are they Spline Drive ? I just bought a set for the new car...They seem to be great!

AMRAAM4 · 03-31-2003, 04:41 PM

no ECAP, tuner lugs are like a long cylinder (no shank or "step in")..at the end where the threads start it is conical (angles in). The interior of the lug is hollow almost all the way through, about 3/4 of the lug is threads, the other 1/4 is a inlet where a key fits to tighten them down.

PACE · 03-31-2003, 05:15 PM

...oh.......

Trash 'em and buy spline drives

AMRAAM4 · 03-31-2003, 05:34 PM

Rba..maybe I missed it, but what wheels did you get?

Mike Jung · 03-31-2003, 07:36 PM

Remember, he has a SE (that has drum brakes).

If the lug nuts does not go down all the way...don't use it. You will wreck the stud's threads if you try to torque/tighten it.

I had a similar problem with my steel winter wheels & McGard wheel lock nuts.

The rear wheel studs do seem longer than the front ones on my SE.

Rba007 · 03-31-2003, 10:36 PM

I got enkei rs6's.... So, what would you guys suggest I buy? Hopefully something that can be had at an autozone... Im driving to detroit this saturday...

AaronGTR · 04-01-2003, 08:07 AM

Do a rear disc brake conversion, that should solve the problem.

Seriously Dave, I would go back to the stock lugs for now. Maybe try some different style lugs latter. If you're having problems getting the wrench into the rear lugs I'd go to a tire shop and see if maybe they have a similar size bit that's longer. Or maybe you could find one at a NAPA autoparts. I've never heard of this problem before. It's strange that the rear studs would be different length than the front.

AMRAAM4 · 04-01-2003, 08:10 AM

Yeah, I'm having trouble thinking of something too. like I suggested, if you can get a pic of it so we can see it that would help. I'm wondering if you can just go to a shorter length lug.

My guess is the drum brakes are causing the fitment issue.

Rba007 · 04-01-2003, 08:49 AM

Im on my way to discount tire now, to see if they can help me out. Goodbye money...

AMRAAM4 · 04-01-2003, 09:06 AM

Vaseline should ease the pain.

Seriously, don't let them tell you ANYTHING about needing to actually touch your car. Some type of lug setup, or returning the rims is what you need. No manual labor by a shop!!!!

Rba007 · 04-01-2003, 07:07 PM

Just got 8 spline drives for the rear (two short cause I already have two lockers for those spots). They did the trick! Now I just have to replace the lug bolt i busted...

AMRAAM4 · 04-01-2003, 07:08 PM

you mean wheel stud?

Rba007 · 04-01-2003, 07:44 PM

AaronGTR · 04-02-2003, 12:16 PM

Cool beans man.

I got McGuard spline drives and locks for my new wheels too. They look great and I like the rotating bezel seat that keeps them from scratching your wheels. Just need the wheels to get here now...hopefully before saturday...come on UPS, hurry up.

PACE · 04-02-2003, 12:22 PM

I knew spline drives would do the trick!

I have a set in my room right now...What have you guys paid for your spline drives?? My buddy works at Bell Tire and sold me a set of 20 for $35...He said it was a great deal

$35 lug nuts is pretty steep to me...but I have seen them for more $$$ than that.....

?

AMRAAM4 · 04-02-2003, 01:47 PM

Lugnuts are $5.99 for 4 at Pep Boys/Autozone

PACE · 04-02-2003, 01:51 PM

We're talking SPLINE DRIVE lugs by McGard...

http://www.mcgard.com/deutschland/en...inemuttern.htm

the ones in the pic all the way to the right. $5 each!

AMRAAM4 · 04-02-2003, 02:21 PM

Looks to me like a simple lug nut with a shank on it. You can get these in about 2-4 different shank lengths, generally.

Example: 0.75 shank length
http://store.summitracing.com/global...sum-753063.jpg

03-31-2003, 11:25 AM	#1
Rba007 GAGT Oldie AKA: Dave Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: N. Muskegon MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,444 Vehicle: 04 Grand Prix GT	Special Tool for "Tuner Lugs"? Here is my predicament: Front wheel lugs go on dandy. Rear ones, the lugs themselves seem to protrude further, which causes the lug nut to not be able to be as secure as I would like it. My little hex head fitting that goes inside of the lug nut cant get into the rear ones once they are tightned a bit. Any suggestions? Something needs to fit in there, but still not hit the lug. __________________ Dave's Sexy Ride "Sul3LiME883: i'm drunk tho. i'd throw myself at a penis right now, i bet." "When you step over the line, your nuts are mine" "ArcticSun GT: u do smell dave, smell like awesomeness"

03-31-2003, 12:48 PM	#2
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	can you take a pic, it will be easier for us to conceptualize. As for now, all I can say is...I've never seen tuner lugs work effectively __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

03-31-2003, 04:23 PM	#3
PACE Woooo Woooooooo ! AKA: Jason Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clarkston, MI Age: 43 Posts: 2,514 Vehicle: GRAND AMERICAN	Are they Spline Drive ? I just bought a set for the new car...They seem to be great! __________________ Grand Am---Long gone. 2009 Yukon Denali with 4" drop on 24" black Escalade wheels -- in the garage 1970 Impala convertible triple black - In the Garage

03-31-2003, 04:41 PM	#4
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	no ECAP, tuner lugs are like a long cylinder (no shank or "step in")..at the end where the threads start it is conical (angles in). The interior of the lug is hollow almost all the way through, about 3/4 of the lug is threads, the other 1/4 is a inlet where a key fits to tighten them down. __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

03-31-2003, 05:15 PM	#5
PACE Woooo Woooooooo ! AKA: Jason Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clarkston, MI Age: 43 Posts: 2,514 Vehicle: GRAND AMERICAN	...oh....... Trash 'em and buy spline drives __________________ Grand Am---Long gone. 2009 Yukon Denali with 4" drop on 24" black Escalade wheels -- in the garage 1970 Impala convertible triple black - In the Garage

03-31-2003, 05:34 PM	#6
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	Rba..maybe I missed it, but what wheels did you get? __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

03-31-2003, 07:36 PM	#7
Mike Jung 400 hp & 410 lb-ft AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,671 Vehicle: '14 Camaro SS RS coupe	Remember, he has a SE (that has drum brakes). If the lug nuts does not go down all the way...don't use it. You will wreck the stud's threads if you try to torque/tighten it. I had a similar problem with my steel winter wheels & McGard wheel lock nuts. The rear wheel studs do seem longer than the front ones on my SE.

03-31-2003, 10:36 PM	#8
Rba007 GAGT Oldie AKA: Dave Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: N. Muskegon MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,444 Vehicle: 04 Grand Prix GT	I got enkei rs6's.... So, what would you guys suggest I buy? Hopefully something that can be had at an autozone... Im driving to detroit this saturday... __________________ Dave's Sexy Ride "Sul3LiME883: i'm drunk tho. i'd throw myself at a penis right now, i bet." "When you step over the line, your nuts are mine" "ArcticSun GT: u do smell dave, smell like awesomeness"

04-01-2003, 08:07 AM	#9
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Do a rear disc brake conversion, that should solve the problem. Seriously Dave, I would go back to the stock lugs for now. Maybe try some different style lugs latter. If you're having problems getting the wrench into the rear lugs I'd go to a tire shop and see if maybe they have a similar size bit that's longer. Or maybe you could find one at a NAPA autoparts. I've never heard of this problem before. It's strange that the rear studs would be different length than the front. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

04-01-2003, 08:10 AM	#10
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	Yeah, I'm having trouble thinking of something too. like I suggested, if you can get a pic of it so we can see it that would help. I'm wondering if you can just go to a shorter length lug. My guess is the drum brakes are causing the fitment issue. __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

04-01-2003, 08:49 AM	#11
Rba007 GAGT Oldie AKA: Dave Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: N. Muskegon MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,444 Vehicle: 04 Grand Prix GT	Im on my way to discount tire now, to see if they can help me out. Goodbye money... __________________ Dave's Sexy Ride "Sul3LiME883: i'm drunk tho. i'd throw myself at a penis right now, i bet." "When you step over the line, your nuts are mine" "ArcticSun GT: u do smell dave, smell like awesomeness"

04-01-2003, 09:06 AM	#12
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	Vaseline should ease the pain. Seriously, don't let them tell you ANYTHING about needing to actually touch your car. Some type of lug setup, or returning the rims is what you need. No manual labor by a shop!!!! __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

04-01-2003, 07:07 PM	#13
Rba007 GAGT Oldie AKA: Dave Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: N. Muskegon MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,444 Vehicle: 04 Grand Prix GT	Just got 8 spline drives for the rear (two short cause I already have two lockers for those spots). They did the trick! Now I just have to replace the lug bolt i busted... __________________ Dave's Sexy Ride "Sul3LiME883: i'm drunk tho. i'd throw myself at a penis right now, i bet." "When you step over the line, your nuts are mine" "ArcticSun GT: u do smell dave, smell like awesomeness"

04-01-2003, 07:08 PM	#14
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	you mean wheel stud? __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

04-01-2003, 07:44 PM	#15
Rba007 GAGT Oldie AKA: Dave Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: N. Muskegon MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,444 Vehicle: 04 Grand Prix GT	yup __________________ Dave's Sexy Ride "Sul3LiME883: i'm drunk tho. i'd throw myself at a penis right now, i bet." "When you step over the line, your nuts are mine" "ArcticSun GT: u do smell dave, smell like awesomeness"

04-02-2003, 12:16 PM	#16
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Cool beans man. I got McGuard spline drives and locks for my new wheels too. They look great and I like the rotating bezel seat that keeps them from scratching your wheels. Just need the wheels to get here now...hopefully before saturday...come on UPS, hurry up. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

04-02-2003, 12:22 PM	#17
PACE Woooo Woooooooo ! AKA: Jason Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clarkston, MI Age: 43 Posts: 2,514 Vehicle: GRAND AMERICAN	I knew spline drives would do the trick! I have a set in my room right now...What have you guys paid for your spline drives?? My buddy works at Bell Tire and sold me a set of 20 for $35...He said it was a great deal $35 lug nuts is pretty steep to me...but I have seen them for more $$$ than that..... ? __________________ Grand Am---Long gone. 2009 Yukon Denali with 4" drop on 24" black Escalade wheels -- in the garage 1970 Impala convertible triple black - In the Garage

04-02-2003, 01:47 PM	#18
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	Lugnuts are $5.99 for 4 at Pep Boys/Autozone __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

04-02-2003, 01:51 PM	#19
PACE Woooo Woooooooo ! AKA: Jason Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clarkston, MI Age: 43 Posts: 2,514 Vehicle: GRAND AMERICAN	We're talking SPLINE DRIVE lugs by McGard... http://www.mcgard.com/deutschland/en...inemuttern.htm the ones in the pic all the way to the right. $5 each! __________________ Grand Am---Long gone. 2009 Yukon Denali with 4" drop on 24" black Escalade wheels -- in the garage 1970 Impala convertible triple black - In the Garage

04-02-2003, 02:21 PM	#20
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	Looks to me like a simple lug nut with a shank on it. You can get these in about 2-4 different shank lengths, generally. Example: 0.75 shank length http://store.summitracing.com/global...sum-753063.jpg __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode