Brake Conversion

04-17-2003, 04:25 PM

Ok guys/girls has anyone with a grand am se switched the rear drum over to rear disc without using a special kit. I saw a thread on here a while back about using grand am gt parts but it didnt say if any one has tried it or not. Please let me know.

grandamgt6969 · 04-17-2003, 04:58 PM

I have heard of if but never did it myslef becuase i don't need to but I think it would be very easy because the gts have it.

EBlend · 04-17-2003, 05:19 PM

i got my rear gt breaks coming in next week. I will let everyone know everything goes, Prolly the first SE with gt rear breaks is gonna be me!!

04-27-2003, 07:24 PM

Hey EBlend any update on the rear break conversion.

MattBatt · 11-08-2003, 07:20 PM

how about any update now?

Wallflower · 11-08-2003, 08:56 PM

There is a guy that has already done it over on GAOC. I plan to tackle this one as well in the spring. Pretty easy on the 99+ cars. Its only 5 bolts, the e-brake cable, and the brake line if I recall.

kubiache · 11-08-2003, 09:36 PM

Wow, that would be a lot better than I had thought. Any idea who it was on GAOC, Wallflower?

EBlend · 11-08-2003, 09:47 PM

darn this is old! i have had mine for about...hum..8 month now! install was easy as hell. 2 hours to convert from se to gt brakes

MattBatt · 11-10-2003, 05:17 AM

Sweet did you happen to post any directions and or pictures?

kubiache · 11-10-2003, 05:30 AM

EBlend, I knew it had been done before but I couldn't remember who on here had done it. If you got any pics pelase post them up. Or at least a list of parts and maybe instructions would rock.

SE'sarecool2 · 11-14-2003, 08:44 PM

Hey, anybody who has done the SE to GT rear brake swap - I'm planning this too - details, please!

SpyhunteR · 11-15-2003, 06:54 PM

um.. remove se drums... install gt discs?

SE'sarecool2 · 11-15-2003, 06:59 PM

What about the E-brake cable...can I use the one I have now or do I have to swap it with a different one?

SpyhunteR · 11-15-2003, 07:01 PM

I've heard of hte conversions using the same ebrake cable, but it wouldn't be hard to pull that part from a junker either...

EBlend · 11-15-2003, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SE'sarecool2
What about the E-brake cable...can I use the one I have now or do I have to swap it with a different one?

the main cable is the same, but the once that come out of each side of the disks are different

its not hard at all! just get gt rear and switch em, also need new brake lines thought

my04se1 · 11-20-2003, 12:14 PM

One thing I noticed different so far looking in the GM parts catalog at work, the parking brake indicator is different between a GT and a SE.

my04se1 · 11-20-2003, 12:15 PM

Also, the cable going to the back of the brake is different but the front cable is the same.

SE'sarecool2 · 11-20-2003, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by my04se1
One thing I noticed different so far looking in the GM parts catalog at work, the parking brake indicator is different between a GT and a SE.

Parking brake indicator? What's that? Also, if you could post a list of all the parts required for the swap that would help. Thanks!

Wallflower · 11-20-2003, 08:02 PM

*** All numbers are based on 99 SE2 V6 ***

Main Hub Assemby :
18041757 : Backing plate LH : QTY 1
18041758 : Backing Plate RH : QTY 1
18023050 : Hub bolts : QTY 8
18060632 : Knuckle LH : QTY 1
18060633 : Knuckle RH : QTY 1
18026272 : Caliper Brkt : QTY 2
18023069 : Caliper Brkt Bolts : QTY 4
18022952 : Park Brake Spring : QTY 2
11513699 : Park Brkt Screw : QTY 4
18025022 : Park Brkt LH : QTY 1
18025023 : Park Brkt RH : QTY 1
18043106 : Park Actuator LH : QTY 1
18043107 : Park Actuator RH : QTY 1

Raybestos Misc. Parts :
RC11081 : Loaded Rear Caliper LH : QTY 1
RC11082 : Loaded Rear Caliper RH : QTY 1
56629 : Rear Disc : QTY 2
770 : Park Brake Shoes : QTY 1
BH380580 : Rear Brake Line : QTY 2

BCA Hub Assembly :
512152 : Rear Hub Assembly : QTY 2

Simple swap instructions :
1. Disconnect Brake Line
2. Disconnect E-Brake Cable
3. Remove 2 Strut/Knuckle bolts
4. Remove Trailing Arm/Knuckle bolt
5. Remove Lateral Arm/Knuckle bolt
6. Remove Sway Bar/Knuckle bolt

You now have the entire rear drum assembly in your hands. Change rear brake lines and E-brake cable. Replace with GT Hub Assembly in reverse order.

** I have the exploded views and parts lists from the GM Parts computer, for both the drum and disc rear assemblies, however I do not have a scanner. The only part number I do not know is for the E-brake cables.

I would check the local junkyard (Yard locator) and see if they have wrecked GTs on the lot. Your price would almost certainly beat what you will pay at the dealer level for the above parts. I was quoted $250 for two complete disc hub assemblies. I plan to do this very soon myself. I think I will replace the calipers and park actuators with new parts to avoid the potential problems. I intend to buy new cables, hoses, and obviously the pads and rotors.

MattBatt · 11-20-2003, 09:05 PM

Please take pics.

04-17-2003, 04:25 PM	#1
gran dam good Guest Posts: n/a	Brake Conversion Ok guys/girls has anyone with a grand am se switched the rear drum over to rear disc without using a special kit. I saw a thread on here a while back about using grand am gt parts but it didnt say if any one has tried it or not. Please let me know.

11-08-2003, 07:20 PM	#5
MattBatt I'm An Audio Monkey AKA: Matt Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando FL Age: 41 Posts: 1,015 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Coupe	how about any update now? __________________ My car is dieing My Website "Life's big problems include the words 'Indictment' or 'Inoperable'. Everything else is small stuff."

11-08-2003, 08:56 PM	#6
Wallflower The Wall AKA: Scott Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 65 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am SC/T	There is a guy that has already done it over on GAOC. I plan to tackle this one as well in the spring. Pretty easy on the 99+ cars. Its only 5 bolts, the e-brake cable, and the brake line if I recall. __________________ Retail Automotive Aftermarket Sales One more medicated peaceful moment ....

11-08-2003, 09:36 PM	#7
kubiache Get blown Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 42 Posts: 1,858 Vehicle: 1998 GTP	Wow, that would be a lot better than I had thought. Any idea who it was on GAOC, Wallflower? __________________ Dave Woodward '01 GA SE --- 14.864 @ 92.61mph.....NA '98 GTP - NIC cam / P&P heads / 105# springs / Titanium retainers / INTENSE LW pushrods / CC Lifters / INTENSE TCS-300 / ZZP Poly mounts / RT 3" DP / PEMs / ZZP MPS 3.2, 3.0 / Wizair / 103s / DHP / AFC 2.2 .......still tuning

11-10-2003, 05:17 AM	#9
MattBatt I'm An Audio Monkey AKA: Matt Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando FL Age: 41 Posts: 1,015 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Coupe	Sweet did you happen to post any directions and or pictures? __________________ My car is dieing My Website "Life's big problems include the words 'Indictment' or 'Inoperable'. Everything else is small stuff."

04-17-2003, 04:58 PM	#2
grandamgt6969 GAGT - Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Age: 35 Posts: 222 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	I have heard of if but never did it myslef becuase i don't need to but I think it would be very easy because the gts have it.

04-17-2003, 05:19 PM	#3
EBlend GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Calgary, AB Age: 37 Posts: 1,308	i got my rear gt breaks coming in next week. I will let everyone know everything goes, Prolly the first SE with gt rear breaks is gonna be me!!

04-27-2003, 07:24 PM	#4
gran dam good Guest Posts: n/a	Hey EBlend any update on the rear break conversion.

11-08-2003, 09:47 PM	#8
EBlend GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Calgary, AB Age: 37 Posts: 1,308	darn this is old! i have had mine for about...hum..8 month now! install was easy as hell. 2 hours to convert from se to gt brakes

11-10-2003, 05:30 AM	#10
kubiache Get blown Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 42 Posts: 1,858 Vehicle: 1998 GTP	EBlend, I knew it had been done before but I couldn't remember who on here had done it. If you got any pics pelase post them up. Or at least a list of parts and maybe instructions would rock. __________________ Dave Woodward '01 GA SE --- 14.864 @ 92.61mph.....NA '98 GTP - NIC cam / P&P heads / 105# springs / Titanium retainers / INTENSE LW pushrods / CC Lifters / INTENSE TCS-300 / ZZP Poly mounts / RT 3" DP / PEMs / ZZP MPS 3.2, 3.0 / Wizair / 103s / DHP / AFC 2.2 .......still tuning

11-14-2003, 08:44 PM	#11
SE'sarecool2 Gearhead for life AKA: Joe Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wilminton,DE Age: 48 Posts: 188 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am SE/GT	Hey, anybody who has done the SE to GT rear brake swap - I'm planning this too - details, please! __________________ "A spirit with a vision is a dream... with a mission" -RUSH

11-15-2003, 06:54 PM	#12
SpyhunteR #1 hater AKA: Rob Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas Age: 38 Posts: 4,968 Vehicle: 01' 2.4T GA / 08 TBSS	um.. remove se drums... install gt discs? __________________ Hey kids going to Vegas? Let me help you help me help you! Shoot me an email or PM for all your Vegas Night Club bottle hallucinations & strip club desires! FACEBOOKFACE! "Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you."

11-15-2003, 06:59 PM	#13
SE'sarecool2 Gearhead for life AKA: Joe Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wilminton,DE Age: 48 Posts: 188 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am SE/GT	What about the E-brake cable...can I use the one I have now or do I have to swap it with a different one? __________________ "A spirit with a vision is a dream... with a mission" -RUSH

11-15-2003, 07:01 PM	#14
SpyhunteR #1 hater AKA: Rob Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas Age: 38 Posts: 4,968 Vehicle: 01' 2.4T GA / 08 TBSS	I've heard of hte conversions using the same ebrake cable, but it wouldn't be hard to pull that part from a junker either... __________________ Hey kids going to Vegas? Let me help you help me help you! Shoot me an email or PM for all your Vegas Night Club bottle hallucinations & strip club desires! FACEBOOKFACE! "Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you."

11-20-2003, 12:14 PM	#16
my04se1 PIMPIN' Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: White Lake, Mi Age: 45 Posts: 24 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am SE1 seda	One thing I noticed different so far looking in the GM parts catalog at work, the parking brake indicator is different between a GT and a SE. __________________ Silverstars in head and fog lights, K&N filter, Tornado, Altezza tails, Prestige 2-way remote start and a XM Commander.

11-20-2003, 12:15 PM	#17
my04se1 PIMPIN' Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: White Lake, Mi Age: 45 Posts: 24 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am SE1 seda	Also, the cable going to the back of the brake is different but the front cable is the same. __________________ Silverstars in head and fog lights, K&N filter, Tornado, Altezza tails, Prestige 2-way remote start and a XM Commander.

11-20-2003, 08:02 PM	#19
Wallflower The Wall AKA: Scott Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 65 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am SC/T	* All numbers are based on 99 SE2 V6 * Main Hub Assemby : 18041757 : Backing plate LH : QTY 1 18041758 : Backing Plate RH : QTY 1 18023050 : Hub bolts : QTY 8 18060632 : Knuckle LH : QTY 1 18060633 : Knuckle RH : QTY 1 18026272 : Caliper Brkt : QTY 2 18023069 : Caliper Brkt Bolts : QTY 4 18022952 : Park Brake Spring : QTY 2 11513699 : Park Brkt Screw : QTY 4 18025022 : Park Brkt LH : QTY 1 18025023 : Park Brkt RH : QTY 1 18043106 : Park Actuator LH : QTY 1 18043107 : Park Actuator RH : QTY 1 Raybestos Misc. Parts : RC11081 : Loaded Rear Caliper LH : QTY 1 RC11082 : Loaded Rear Caliper RH : QTY 1 56629 : Rear Disc : QTY 2 770 : Park Brake Shoes : QTY 1 BH380580 : Rear Brake Line : QTY 2 BCA Hub Assembly : 512152 : Rear Hub Assembly : QTY 2 Simple swap instructions : 1. Disconnect Brake Line 2. Disconnect E-Brake Cable 3. Remove 2 Strut/Knuckle bolts 4. Remove Trailing Arm/Knuckle bolt 5. Remove Lateral Arm/Knuckle bolt 6. Remove Sway Bar/Knuckle bolt You now have the entire rear drum assembly in your hands. Change rear brake lines and E-brake cable. Replace with GT Hub Assembly in reverse order. ** I have the exploded views and parts lists from the GM Parts computer, for both the drum and disc rear assemblies, however I do not have a scanner. The only part number I do not know is for the E-brake cables. I would check the local junkyard (Yard locator) and see if they have wrecked GTs on the lot. Your price would almost certainly beat what you will pay at the dealer level for the above parts. I was quoted $250 for two complete disc hub assemblies. I plan to do this very soon myself. I think I will replace the calipers and park actuators with new parts to avoid the potential problems. I intend to buy new cables, hoses, and obviously the pads and rotors. __________________ Retail Automotive Aftermarket Sales One more medicated peaceful moment .... Last edited by Wallflower; 11-20-2003 at 08:56 PM.

11-20-2003, 09:05 PM	#20
MattBatt I'm An Audio Monkey AKA: Matt Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando FL Age: 41 Posts: 1,015 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Coupe	Please take pics. __________________ My car is dieing My Website "Life's big problems include the words 'Indictment' or 'Inoperable'. Everything else is small stuff."

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode