Oil Capacity??? 4 0r 5 Qts?

05-21-2003, 01:32 PM

Anyone change their own oil? How much do you put in? I usually put in 4 - 4.5 qts. I think 5 is too much and an overfull engine can be harmful.. Im running on 4 right now it looks fine. IT is hard to tell by the dipstick b/c the new oil is so clean its clear. Don't wanna mess up the engine with too little either.

buzzzam · 05-21-2003, 01:44 PM

its 4.5 quarts including changing the filter.

PACE · 05-21-2003, 02:08 PM

The OM does say 4.5 But both of the GA's I've had have always taken a bit more than 4.5....If I drained her good a full fill-up would be 4 3/4 or even sometimes more.....

05-21-2003, 02:15 PM

hmm, mine has always been 4.5

PACE · 05-21-2003, 02:38 PM

You have a different engine. I was talking about the 3400

05-21-2003, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ECAP
You have a different engine. I was talking about the 3400

the 3x00 only have a few changes between them.
Oil Capasity not being one of the changes.

PACE · 05-21-2003, 02:54 PM

*SHRUG* I dunno...Just my experience.

PGsGT · 05-21-2003, 02:56 PM

I have always used 4.5. I drain my oil and then take the filter off. After you take the filter off (if the front end is raised) you will see more oil come from the oil pan itself. Then fill the oil filter with as much as possible (usually takes a few pours) and then reattach. I always use 4.5 and I am right on the money according to the dipstick.

PACE · 05-21-2003, 02:57 PM

You fill the filter before you put it on??? wtf

PGsGT · 05-21-2003, 03:02 PM

I always do. And also put a ring of oil around the seal to prevent siezure.

Does no one else fill the filter first?

PACE · 05-21-2003, 03:07 PM

I put a ring of oil on the seal...but I have never filled it with oil first....

Panacea · 05-21-2003, 06:17 PM

4.5 quarts, change the filter, put oil on the ring, nothing else.

PGsGT · 05-21-2003, 06:20 PM

Yeah - I guess no one else does fill the filter, maybe I am just a wierdo

I don't know where I ever heard that, but I have had 3 Grand Am's and have done the same thing every 3-4000 miles for the last 100,000 miles

Fenderman · 05-21-2003, 06:21 PM

i use a bit over 4 quarts. i also fill the filter a bit first. the reason why people do this is to get some oil into the filter before the engine starts otherwise its take a bit of time for the filter paper to absorb some oil before it starts flowing through it.

PGsGT · 05-21-2003, 06:22 PM

Damn - I just posted about how "no one" else does it and there you go....

FireBird · 05-21-2003, 07:06 PM

I have always "filled" the filter with oil before I put it on.... last 4 cars I've owned. I'm not sure how much it helps, but it's worth a try...

BMOBYLE · 05-21-2003, 07:10 PM

Nothing wrong with filling up the filter at all.
just a form of priming the engine. Not really needed on the LA1 though.

Bmw recommends it.

Used alot also with turbocharged applications.
sometimes tapping the ignition is needed to.

Most of the GM v6's take 4 1/2 quarts with the exception of a select few.

Mike Jung · 05-21-2003, 08:00 PM

4.5 quarts = 4.3L (for us metric Canadians

)

Just wondering:

How much more oil is needed if you use the PF-52 oil filter (instead of stock PF-47 oil filter)?
Are we talking like about cup/250mL more of oil?

[Just wondering...I'm having my oil changed tommorrow & will start using oversized PF-52 type oil filters. I just want to know how much of oil to bring (since I have cases of 1L bottles with 1-single opened bottle already with a 1/3 left)]

BMOBYLE · 05-21-2003, 08:04 PM

Had a buddy of mine who did this all the time on his.

Don't remeber "exactly" but it wasn't much at all.

You can just have the car ran for a good two mins after the oil change then shut it off and check the dip. top off what's needed.

It still ain't gonna be that much though.

05-21-2003, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike Jung
4.5 quarts = 4.3L (for us metric Canadians )

Just wondering:

How much more oil is needed if you use the PF-52 oil filter (instead of stock PF-47 oil filter)?
Are we talking like about cup/250mL more of oil?

[Just wondering...I'm having my oil changed tommorrow & will start using oversized PF-52 type oil filters. I just want to know how much of oil to bring (since I have cases of 1L bottles with 1-single opened bottle already with a 1/3 left)]

I read somewhere that increasing the filter size will increase the capacity to 4.8 quarts. I just go with 4.5 and the oversize filter.

05-21-2003, 01:32 PM	#1
ForgeGT1 Guest Posts: n/a	Oil Capacity??? 4 0r 5 Qts? Anyone change their own oil? How much do you put in? I usually put in 4 - 4.5 qts. I think 5 is too much and an overfull engine can be harmful.. Im running on 4 right now it looks fine. IT is hard to tell by the dipstick b/c the new oil is so clean its clear. Don't wanna mess up the engine with too little either.

05-21-2003, 02:08 PM	#3
PACE Woooo Woooooooo ! AKA: Jason Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clarkston, MI Age: 43 Posts: 2,514 Vehicle: GRAND AMERICAN	The OM does say 4.5 But both of the GA's I've had have always taken a bit more than 4.5....If I drained her good a full fill-up would be 4 3/4 or even sometimes more..... __________________ Grand Am---Long gone. 2009 Yukon Denali with 4" drop on 24" black Escalade wheels -- in the garage 1970 Impala convertible triple black - In the Garage

05-21-2003, 02:38 PM	#5
PACE Woooo Woooooooo ! AKA: Jason Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clarkston, MI Age: 43 Posts: 2,514 Vehicle: GRAND AMERICAN	You have a different engine. I was talking about the 3400 __________________ Grand Am---Long gone. 2009 Yukon Denali with 4" drop on 24" black Escalade wheels -- in the garage 1970 Impala convertible triple black - In the Garage

05-21-2003, 02:54 PM	#7
PACE Woooo Woooooooo ! AKA: Jason Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clarkston, MI Age: 43 Posts: 2,514 Vehicle: GRAND AMERICAN	SHRUG I dunno...Just my experience. __________________ Grand Am---Long gone. 2009 Yukon Denali with 4" drop on 24" black Escalade wheels -- in the garage 1970 Impala convertible triple black - In the Garage

05-21-2003, 02:57 PM	#9
PACE Woooo Woooooooo ! AKA: Jason Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clarkston, MI Age: 43 Posts: 2,514 Vehicle: GRAND AMERICAN	You fill the filter before you put it on??? wtf __________________ Grand Am---Long gone. 2009 Yukon Denali with 4" drop on 24" black Escalade wheels -- in the garage 1970 Impala convertible triple black - In the Garage

05-21-2003, 01:44 PM	#2
buzzzam GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dearborn, MI Age: 42 Posts: 59 Vehicle: 02 GAGT SDN	its 4.5 quarts including changing the filter.

05-21-2003, 02:15 PM	#4
jeremy96gase Guest Posts: n/a	hmm, mine has always been 4.5

05-21-2003, 02:56 PM	#8
PGsGT GAGT - Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Peoria, IL Age: 38 Posts: 82 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Prix GT	I have always used 4.5. I drain my oil and then take the filter off. After you take the filter off (if the front end is raised) you will see more oil come from the oil pan itself. Then fill the oil filter with as much as possible (usually takes a few pours) and then reattach. I always use 4.5 and I am right on the money according to the dipstick.

05-21-2003, 03:02 PM	#10
PGsGT GAGT - Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Peoria, IL Age: 38 Posts: 82 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Prix GT	I always do. And also put a ring of oil around the seal to prevent siezure. Does no one else fill the filter first?

05-21-2003, 03:07 PM	#11
PACE Woooo Woooooooo ! AKA: Jason Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clarkston, MI Age: 43 Posts: 2,514 Vehicle: GRAND AMERICAN	I put a ring of oil on the seal...but I have never filled it with oil first.... __________________ Grand Am---Long gone. 2009 Yukon Denali with 4" drop on 24" black Escalade wheels -- in the garage 1970 Impala convertible triple black - In the Garage

05-21-2003, 06:17 PM	#12
Panacea Mmmm Donuts. AKA: Macleod52 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rock Island, IL Age: 40 Posts: 3,160 Vehicle: '09 Malibu LTZ	4.5 quarts, change the filter, put oil on the ring, nothing else. __________________ "Never argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience."

05-21-2003, 06:20 PM	#13
PGsGT GAGT - Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Peoria, IL Age: 38 Posts: 82 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Prix GT	Yeah - I guess no one else does fill the filter, maybe I am just a wierdo I don't know where I ever heard that, but I have had 3 Grand Am's and have done the same thing every 3-4000 miles for the last 100,000 miles

05-21-2003, 06:21 PM	#14
Fenderman GAGT - Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Posts: 125	i use a bit over 4 quarts. i also fill the filter a bit first. the reason why people do this is to get some oil into the filter before the engine starts otherwise its take a bit of time for the filter paper to absorb some oil before it starts flowing through it.

05-21-2003, 06:22 PM	#15
PGsGT GAGT - Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Peoria, IL Age: 38 Posts: 82 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Prix GT	Damn - I just posted about how "no one" else does it and there you go....

05-21-2003, 07:06 PM	#16
FireBird GAGT - Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 40	I have always "filled" the filter with oil before I put it on.... last 4 cars I've owned. I'm not sure how much it helps, but it's worth a try...

05-21-2003, 07:10 PM	#17
BMOBYLE Grease Monkey Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: drexel hill Age: 44 Posts: 659 Vehicle: 99GAGTBLACKmodded!	Nothing wrong with filling up the filter at all. just a form of priming the engine. Not really needed on the LA1 though. Bmw recommends it. Used alot also with turbocharged applications. sometimes tapping the ignition is needed to. Most of the GM v6's take 4 1/2 quarts with the exception of a select few. __________________ GM's love me ASE Certified!!! My N-Body I'll see ya with my tools F-FACE! Last edited by BMOBYLE; 05-21-2003 at 08:08 PM.

05-21-2003, 08:00 PM	#18
Mike Jung 400 hp & 410 lb-ft AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,671 Vehicle: '14 Camaro SS RS coupe	4.5 quarts = 4.3L (for us metric Canadians ) Just wondering: How much more oil is needed if you use the PF-52 oil filter (instead of stock PF-47 oil filter)? Are we talking like about cup/250mL more of oil? [Just wondering...I'm having my oil changed tommorrow & will start using oversized PF-52 type oil filters. I just want to know how much of oil to bring (since I have cases of 1L bottles with 1-single opened bottle already with a 1/3 left)]

05-21-2003, 08:04 PM	#19
BMOBYLE Grease Monkey Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: drexel hill Age: 44 Posts: 659 Vehicle: 99GAGTBLACKmodded!	(reply to mikejung) Had a buddy of mine who did this all the time on his. Don't remeber "exactly" but it wasn't much at all. You can just have the car ran for a good two mins after the oil change then shut it off and check the dip. top off what's needed. It still ain't gonna be that much though. __________________ GM's love me ASE Certified!!! My N-Body I'll see ya with my tools F-FACE!

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