What do u think of these Plexi grills?

syc0path · 10-23-2003, 08:23 AM

I designed some Plexi grills for 12" subs... I tried to make them w/ hand tools, but they didn't turn out that great. So I looked into getting them laser cut. The problem is that most of the cost comes from programming the machine. If I only get 2 grills, they'd be about $100 each! But if I buy 20, they'd only be about $18 each. So I was thinking about buying 20, using what I need, and selling the rest on ebay. But I don't know if people would like the design... what do u guys think? U think $30 would be a reasonable price?

syc0path · 10-23-2003, 08:24 AM

Here's a pic of one of the hand-cut prototypes on my box...

GregFarz78 · 10-24-2003, 04:46 AM

woah I can see why it costs so much, plexi isnt the most friendly material to work with. Its not really my style though kinda reminds me of a floor drain grate.

PontiacGT2K · 10-24-2003, 10:14 AM

Not really a fan of the design.

Speaking of "holy plexiglass batman"....

MattBatt · 10-24-2003, 04:01 PM

Was it supposed to be the pontiac Arrow Head? Cause that goes down like a V and has the little \/ thngys at the top. And it looks like it would block alot of the bass.

MagiLLa · 10-24-2003, 06:19 PM

i was just gonna say what matt said, your bass output will be hampered.. when i WAS going to make a grill, i was just gonna make an X, try and use as little surface area as possible so your airflow isnt restricted

AmIGrand · 10-24-2003, 09:09 PM

It shouldn't make a noticable difference in output.

Spiff it up a little. Good design, but these days something that simple won't get the looks. Good start, though!

syc0path · 10-27-2003, 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by AmIGrand
It shouldn't make a noticable difference in output.

Spiff it up a little. Good design, but these days something that simple won't get the looks. Good start, though!

It doesn't make a noticable difference in output (look at the pix -- I already have the prototypes on the box). Bass waves are very long, so they're not disturbed by small obstacles. Think of a wave hitting a beach -- a big boulder may redirect the wave, but a few pebbles won't.

Anyway, it sounds like there's a total lack of interest in this design (I've have similar results on other forums I belong to). I could change it or dress it up, but then the price goes up as it gets more complicated. Besides, there's no guarantee anybody would like the next design I come up w/ either. So I guess it ain't gonna happen

PontiacGT2K · 10-27-2003, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by syc0path
It doesn't make a noticable difference in output (look at the pix -- I already have the prototypes on the box). Bass waves are very long, so they're not disturbed by small obstacles. Think of a wave hitting a beach -- a big boulder may redirect the wave, but a few pebbles won't.

Anyway, it sounds like there's a total lack of interest in this design (I've have similar results on other forums I belong to). I could change it or dress it up, but then the price goes up as it gets more complicated. Besides, there's no guarantee anybody would like the next design I come up w/ either. So I guess it ain't gonna happen

Come on man.....just because one design sucked doesn't mean you can't re-design them. I'd be interested in them, if the design was appealing.

It looks like you know what you're doing, keep it up! Something like this would be cool.

syc0path · 10-27-2003, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by PontiacGT2K
Come on man.....just because one design sucked doesn't mean you can't re-design them. I'd be interested in them, if the design was appealing.

It looks like you know what you're doing, keep it up! Something like this would be cool.

But I don't think the design sucked -- I think it's pretty cool, which is why I designed it that way. But the problem is that people have different ideas about what's appealing and what's not. I think it would be pretty tough to come up w/ a design that would appeal to enough people to be worthwhile. If u want to sketch something or even just modify my design, go right ahead. If I like it and there's strong enough interest, I'll get it programmed into a CAD file and get it made.

Mattcoool · 10-27-2003, 09:19 AM

How about a grand am GT grill? within your design somewhere?

syc0path · 10-27-2003, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by Mattcoool
How about a grand am GT grill? within your design somewhere?

Lol... I don't even have a Grand Am... I joined this site cuz my g/f just got a '96 GASE and she wanted a system, and I figured this would be the easiest way to figure out where to run the power wire. I have a '99 Grand Prix SE. I've heard the Pontiac Arrowhead idea a few times, but I figured that would limit the appeal too much (especially if I try to sell them on ebay). But what if we flipped the design upside down, and made the triangle into the bottom part of the Pontiac arrowhead? Would u guys be interested in that? I could probably get some people from the Grand Prix and maybe even Bonneville forums as well (my bro has a '97 Bonneville)

mr_eh · 10-27-2003, 02:10 PM

design looks a little busy... make em just one big pontiac logo

syc0path · 10-28-2003, 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by mr_eh
design looks a little busy... make em just one big pontiac logo

The logo itself would have to be solid, with holes cut out to form the "cross" at the top of the logo -- otherwise, if the logo was cut out, the cross would have to be solid, and it would be too weak. So I'd have to leave the rest of the space open for bass to get out. That would leave too much of the sub exposed -- there's has to be some slats to allow the air to flow while still protecting the subs.

MagiLLa · 10-29-2003, 05:14 PM

ahhh syc0path!!! you're from clubgp.com !! you're always in trhe aucio!! im like "hey i know a guy who spells that name with a zero" im not signed up on that site tho

fschambe · 10-30-2003, 01:42 PM

looks like the speaker would hit the cover and blow it off or atleast mess up your nice epmd rubber surround!

MattBatt · 10-30-2003, 02:56 PM

I think I saw some red spacers keeping it away from the sub.

syc0path · 10-31-2003, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MagiLLa
ahhh syc0path!!! you're from clubgp.com !! you're always in trhe aucio!! im like "hey i know a guy who spells that name with a zero" im not signed up on that site tho

Yep, u discovered my secret identity, even though I tried so hard to conceal it

Quote:

I think I saw some red spacers keeping it away from the sub.

Yep, I cut some 1/2" wood dowel rod into 1.5" lengths, drilled a hole in the middle for the mounting screws, and painted them red to better match my install's color theme.

Anyway, I was talking to a guy on ClubGP... he's an engineering student and he knows a guy in the business. He may be able to run a batch with several different designs at slightly cheaper prices than I found. So we may end up w/ a selection of designs to choose from... I'll let u know!

syc0path · 11-03-2003, 10:46 AM

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So we may end up w/ a selection of designs to choose from... I'll let u know! [/b]

Any suggestions? So far on ClubGP, people have suggested:
RE
JL
(jl10W7)(W7)
Pontiac logo
Syco's design(triangle)?
Alpine ////A
MTX

syc0path · 11-04-2003, 12:01 PM

Well some of the preliminary designs are done... but they're not set in stone, so feel free to make suggestions. Here's the link: http://photos.yahoo.com/rlgkls

10-23-2003, 08:23 AM	#1
syc0path GAGT - Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 42 Vehicle: 96 Grand Am SE	What do u think of these Plexi grills? I designed some Plexi grills for 12" subs... I tried to make them w/ hand tools, but they didn't turn out that great. So I looked into getting them laser cut. The problem is that most of the cost comes from programming the machine. If I only get 2 grills, they'd be about $100 each! But if I buy 20, they'd only be about $18 each. So I was thinking about buying 20, using what I need, and selling the rest on ebay. But I don't know if people would like the design... what do u guys think? U think $30 would be a reasonable price? Attached Thumbnails

10-23-2003, 08:24 AM	#2
syc0path GAGT - Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 42 Vehicle: 96 Grand Am SE	Here's a pic of one of the hand-cut prototypes on my box... Attached Thumbnails

10-24-2003, 04:46 AM	#3
GregFarz78 GAGT - Junkie AKA: See Above Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Philly, PA Age: 43 Posts: 4,413 Vehicle: 04 Honda S2000	woah I can see why it costs so much, plexi isnt the most friendly material to work with. Its not really my style though kinda reminds me of a floor drain grate. __________________ My Pics

10-24-2003, 10:14 AM	#4
PontiacGT2K It's coming... AKA: Andy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St. Charles, Illinois / Milwaukee, Wisconsin (school) Age: 37 Posts: 2,486 Vehicle: '03 350z Touring	Not really a fan of the design. Speaking of "holy plexiglass batman".... __________________ Team GMCI "Get the ambulance, my stomach fell out."

10-24-2003, 04:01 PM	#5
MattBatt I'm An Audio Monkey AKA: Matt Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando FL Age: 41 Posts: 1,015 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Coupe	Was it supposed to be the pontiac Arrow Head? Cause that goes down like a V and has the little \/ thngys at the top. And it looks like it would block alot of the bass. __________________ My car is dieing My Website "Life's big problems include the words 'Indictment' or 'Inoperable'. Everything else is small stuff."

10-24-2003, 06:19 PM	#6
MagiLLa Team S.M owns Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winnipeg Age: 35 Posts: 711 Vehicle: '00 GASE	i was just gonna say what matt said, your bass output will be hampered.. when i WAS going to make a grill, i was just gonna make an X, try and use as little surface area as possible so your airflow isnt restricted __________________ See My Body I have Kanji letters on the hood that release special dragon power above 3700 RPM's

10-24-2003, 09:09 PM	#7
AmIGrand Car Audio Guy AKA: Jamin Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas, Baby! Age: 46 Posts: 993 Vehicle: '05 Ion Redline	It shouldn't make a noticable difference in output. Spiff it up a little. Good design, but these days something that simple won't get the looks. Good start, though! __________________ Las Vegas Motor Speedway (2200 ft): 15.922 @ 86.70 MPH, stock '98 2.4 / 5 speed coupe with a K&N drop in filter and crappy tires (2.3 60's). Gone now.... R.I.P. 1993 Oldsmobile Achieva SCX W41, parted out. 2005 Pacific Blue Ion Redline, competition package, set up for SCCA Stock class, Koni Yellows/Hawk pads/Powergrid endlinks/245/40/17 BFG R1's for race day...

10-27-2003, 09:19 AM	#11
Mattcoool T/A Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: danbury Age: 37 Posts: 155 Vehicle: 2000 Silver T/A	How about a grand am GT grill? within your design somewhere?

10-27-2003, 02:10 PM	#13
mr_eh Hi. AKA: xxx Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Staten Island, NY Age: 39 Posts: 4,405 Vehicle: 05 Srt-4 / 00GrandAmSE	design looks a little busy... make em just one big pontiac logo __________________ 4cyl ga se -> 431whp srt4 -> 600whp s14? wtf.

10-29-2003, 05:14 PM	#15
MagiLLa Team S.M owns Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Winnipeg Age: 35 Posts: 711 Vehicle: '00 GASE	ahhh syc0path!!! you're from clubgp.com !! you're always in trhe aucio!! im like "hey i know a guy who spells that name with a zero" im not signed up on that site tho __________________ See My Body I have Kanji letters on the hood that release special dragon power above 3700 RPM's

10-30-2003, 01:42 PM	#16
fschambe **** every day! AKA: Fred Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: E Patchogue, NY Age: 39 Posts: 346 Vehicle: 05 Dodge Magnum RT AWD	looks like the speaker would hit the cover and blow it off or atleast mess up your nice epmd rubber surround!

10-30-2003, 02:56 PM	#17
MattBatt I'm An Audio Monkey AKA: Matt Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando FL Age: 41 Posts: 1,015 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Coupe	I think I saw some red spacers keeping it away from the sub. __________________ My car is dieing My Website "Life's big problems include the words 'Indictment' or 'Inoperable'. Everything else is small stuff."

11-04-2003, 12:01 PM	#20
syc0path GAGT - Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 42 Vehicle: 96 Grand Am SE	Well some of the preliminary designs are done... but they're not set in stone, so feel free to make suggestions. Here's the link: http://photos.yahoo.com/rlgkls

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