Coilovers for N-Body

I have found a company that is willing to manufacture coilovers for n-body's ie: alero, ga, malibu etc. They are the same quality as the Bilstein ones you can get on mantapart, but are cheaper.
Check out my threads on
N-BODY.NET
and on
ALEROMOD.COM

If we can get 3 or more orders they will give us a discount, we already have 1 order, so we only need 2 more to get the discount, which will save about 200 of the retail price for all 4 corners.

[Watch4MyBu]

What would the price be without the discount

hey joe. w/o discount, they are going to be 309 each assembly. which will be a little over 1200 all 4 corners. These are simple bolt on applications. Take the stock strut assembly off and put the new one on, best of all, turnaround time is 1 week.

[Watch4MyBu]

now is it just a sleeve and collar setup like the ground controls or is it actually a hi performance strut like the bilsteins

This would be the entire strut assembly just like bilstein, if you follow my n-body thread there is a picture similar to what it would look like.

heres the pic.
copy and paste in your browser

abconsulting.150m.com/images/coilover.JPG

[grass]

abconsulting.150m.com/images/coilover.JPG

quicker then copy / paste

[AaronGTR]

I want to know if they have adjustable shock valving as well. If you're gonna spend big money for coilovers you might as well get the best. Adjustable dampening is a big improvement with coilovers and makes a big impact on handling.

[Watch4MyBu]

I don't believe they do. That is why I was considering getting just the sleve and collar kit for height adjustment and using eibach springs and then having truechoice build me a set of custom adjustable koni struts

[mfuller]

Originally posted by AaronGTR
I want to know if they have adjustable shock valving as well. If you're gonna spend big money for coilovers you might as well get the best. Adjustable dampening is a big improvement with coilovers and makes a big impact on handling.

I agree with adjustable damping being important, but there are two big benefits to having coilovers - ride height adjustability and the ability to corner-weight the car.
Adjustable ride height is nice because you can loiwer the roll center of the car, which makes the vehicle more stable and lean less in the turns. There is also an aerodynamic benefit, but I doubt you'll realize a bunch on these cars.
Corner-weighting is huge. You place a scale under each of the 4 wheels. With 1/2 a tank of fuel, you can adjust the springs to make sure the car is balanced from side to side. Also, you can lower one end more than the other, changing how the car distributes it's weight - for instance, I will lower the back of my car more than the front, so the load is carried more evenly and both ends of the car are doing an equal amount of work, maximizing traction.

you can get the adjustable struts, they are made by koni, so mfuller, you should have more experience with them, heres what he told me.

All components I quoted you a price on are made by Carrera, except for the adjustable struts, they are made by Koni.

In your application you do not need adjustable struts. They are only used by road racing cars or oval track cars to improve the handling of the chassis.

Sincerely,

Steve

Originally posted by AnderbrA
heres the pic.
copy and paste in your browser

abconsulting.150m.com/images/coilover.JPG

you need to copy and paste, because you get a hotlinking error if you just create a link.

[grass]

the link i created works fine on my computer

[mfuller]

Originally posted by AnderbrA
you can get the adjustable struts, they are made by koni, so mfuller, you should have more experience with them, heres what he told me.

All components I quoted you a price on are made by Carrera, except for the adjustable struts, they are made by Koni.

In your application you do not need adjustable struts. They are only used by road racing cars or oval track cars to improve the handling of the chassis.

Sincerely,

Steve

Cool. Carrera dampers are actually quite good, and a favorite among Saturn autocrossers and road racers.
Most people don't need adjustable dampers (and to be honest, it can be very time consuming and a real pain to get them set up right) but like everything else, they have their place.

[Molson]

Originally posted by mfuller

I agree with adjustable damping being important, but there are two big benefits to having coilovers - ride height adjustability and the ability to corner-weight the car.
Adjustable ride height is nice because you can loiwer the roll center of the car, which makes the vehicle more stable and lean less in the turns. There is also an aerodynamic benefit, but I doubt you'll realize a bunch on these cars.
Corner-weighting is huge. You place a scale under each of the 4 wheels. With 1/2 a tank of fuel, you can adjust the springs to make sure the car is balanced from side to side. Also, you can lower one end more than the other, changing how the car distributes it's weight - for instance, I will lower the back of my car more than the front, so the load is carried more evenly and both ends of the car are doing an equal amount of work, maximizing traction.

I know ALL about that. We have a set of car scales, we run 55% left side weight, 50% rear and about a 47% wedge. (Cross) makes a BIG difference in cornering.

MFULLER, because you seem the best with the suspension, what other types of questions should i ask him or what other info do you need?

[Watch4MyBu]

I just got an e-mail back from truechoice. Phase two is about 2ooo while phase three would be about 2700. The most I would need is phase two. I think that is who I am going with

[mfuller]

Originally posted by joefish2002
I just got an e-mail back from truechoice. Phase two is about 2ooo while phase three would be about 2700. The most I would need is phase two. I think that is who I am going with

Phase two is what most people go for - rebound-adjustable Koni struts with a coil-over kit using Eibach Race Springs.
Mine will be equivalent to phase 3 - the differences being the piston shafts are shortened so bump travel is preserved, and adjustable compression damping. Not terrible prices when you consider this is all custom stuff.

[mfuller]

Originally posted by AnderbrA
MFULLER, because you seem the best with the suspension, what other types of questions should i ask him or what other info do you need?

There's really not a whole lot to it. Find out if they use stock mounting methods and locations. Ask if the dampers are valved to match the springs, and what spring rates are available - I'd probably say no more than 300# springs up front and 200# in back, unless you are racing (either road racing or autocross). Anyone who gets coilovers really owe it to themselves to get the car corner-weighted for maximum benefit.