pop from front springs

GatorMan · 11-17-2003, 09:47 AM

Well i put on new h&rs and there is a pop in the front spring and the person who got the car aligned said that there was nothing he could do.

Anyone else experience this.

AMRAAM4 · 11-17-2003, 09:55 AM

I told you man, there is something not right in there. It probably isn't seated on the strut properly, so when it compresses it is shifting.

GatorMan · 11-17-2003, 04:20 PM

well is there something that the spring is supposed to sit in to make it now spin around. The guy said the he could turn the whole spring all the way around. I installed these on my stock struts.

AMRAAM4 · 11-17-2003, 04:57 PM

no, the spring should not be able to spin around. the bottom plate of the strut goes like this (ignore dots):

......____
___/

The end of the spring should butt against that angled portion.

lucky13rme · 11-17-2003, 05:04 PM

I just installed my eibach's this past weekend and had a similiar problem. the spring wasn't seated properly on the bottom of the strut once i got it seated properly no more pop sound, also check to make sure that rubber piece is still there, if it's not that could generated some noise too.

GatorMan · 11-17-2003, 05:15 PM

hmm me and my friend installed these and were almost certain that we sat the spring right in there but maybe it shifted out. I'll drive it tomorrow and see what happens and if it keeps doing it then take off the wheel and check it out.

sound_xtreme · 11-17-2003, 08:53 PM

technically there has to be something that the spring is seated on so the spring can turn freely. it is called a bearing plate. it is the second to top plate on your suspension. a lot of times the poping is created with a bad bearing plate.

tbone · 11-18-2003, 08:48 AM

Get it fixed quick, My folks Malibu had some transaxle work done and the spring was never seated right but my mom thought that weas just how teh car was supposed to sound, untill the spring basically shattered from all the sudden jaring.

GatorMan · 11-18-2003, 08:11 PM

ok....We now took the front off again according to the instructions inthe how to section and made the spring but up against the top part that angles down. The bottom has nothing to but the spring up against so we left it alone on that rubber peice...again. We put it all back together and the damn popping still happens. I installed them on my stock struts. People on this site have done this with success. I don't understand any way to fix this problem. If you guys would please help me with this problem. You guys are my only hope right now.

Thanks for your support

Alex

sound_xtreme · 11-19-2003, 10:28 AM

did you try turning your bearing plate? cause that is probably the problem. the bearing plate allows the suspension to turn when you turn the wheel. if the bearing plate is no good or is not seated right with the top mounting plate it will not allow the suspension to turn freely, which will most likely make some popping noises....

GatorMan · 11-19-2003, 05:33 PM

i called h & r spring co. and they said that i probably overtightened the big bolt on top. He said that i need to torque it down to factory specs. I didnt even use an air gun or anything. I just turned it until it was tight. Does anyone have any pics of all the peices of the strut assembly and the parts labeled.

Thanks
Alex

GatorMan · 11-19-2003, 05:37 PM

also is there something stopping the spring on the bottom

sound_xtreme · 11-19-2003, 08:38 PM

i use an impact gun and i dont have any popping noises.

I dont have any pics but here are the names and the order they are in from top to bottom.

Strut tower- this is actually part of the body of the car and can not be removes

mounting plate- has to bolts welded onto it and has one threaded hole

bearing plate- flat angled plate. has a metal ring with bearing inside on the top. the metal ring contacts a groove on the mounting plate

boot- black acordian looking thing. has an orange bump stop inside it.

strut- pretty obvious

spring- another obvious one.

krazyGT · 11-22-2003, 09:13 AM

That's weird...just like two days ago I started hearing a poping sound also. And it's only from turning the wheel on the passenger side...from reading this...I imagine it's the bearing plate and will have it looked at immediatly!

Thanks for the info guys....you save me yet again!!

Steve

sluggerx5 · 06-10-2005, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorMan

i called h & r spring co. and they said that i probably overtightened the big bolt on top. He said that i need to torque it down to factory specs. I didnt even use an air gun or anything. I just turned it until it was tight. Does anyone have any pics of all the peices of the strut assembly and the parts labeled.

Thanks
Alex

Ah thank you, I searched forever and this was the answer i was looking for. Did u ever figure out if this was your problem. I am almost positve this is what was causing the creaking/soft poping noise in my suspension when turing the wheel.

99capergrandam · 04-11-2006, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorMan

ok....We now took the front off again according to the instructions inthe how to section and made the spring but up against the top part that angles down. The bottom has nothing to but the spring up against so we left it alone on that rubber peice...again. We put it all back together and the damn popping still happens. I installed them on my stock struts. People on this site have done this with success. I don't understand any way to fix this problem. If you guys would please help me with this problem. You guys are my only hope right now.

Thanks for your support

Alex

I too am having some issues with these dam things. My strut mount bearings were toast for quite a while. I finally decided to replace both sides, along with my springs. Good thing as it turn out as both springs were snapped. So I was finally looking forward to a quite ride. Not so as it turns out........there is still the dam popping noise coming from my rebuilt strut assembly. What in the hell is going on??

onesexyga · 04-11-2006, 01:19 PM

Well as long as were resurrecting dead threads, same problem here. New struts and bearing plates, stock springs with 74k on them. The plates did seize up on my and that was definately the noise before. Sounded like gunfire. Its not nearly as bad now, but still doing it. Mostly turning right. More the faster or sharper the turn, basically just moving the suspension more. I know theyre seated right, You can see impressions on the rubber and metal where the spring goes. Its also really intermittent. Weathers been varying 60+ degrees lately, so maybe caused by a temp change?

Slim · 04-11-2006, 01:31 PM

The problem comes from the springs not being seated properly. You want to line the spring up with the stop on the bottom plate, not the top. The spring should rest against a slight edge. The prevents the spring from turing separate from the strut assembly. The popping noise is the spring shifting inside the mounts.

onesexyga · 04-11-2006, 01:35 PM

The springs are lined up the the impression on the rubber gasket and metal plate of the strut. Really seems right to me.

Slim · 04-11-2006, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onesexyga

The springs are lined up the the impression on the rubber gasket and metal plate of the strut. Really seems right to me.

Did you check the alignment of the strut bearing plates? They can slip out of alignment very easily and make a very similar noise when trying to turn.

11-17-2003, 09:47 AM	#1
GatorMan GAGT - Member AKA: Alex Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Carolina Age: 36 Posts: 325 Vehicle: 2001 red ga se coupev6	pop from front springs Well i put on new h&rs and there is a pop in the front spring and the person who got the car aligned said that there was nothing he could do. Anyone else experience this. __________________ south cakillaky

11-17-2003, 09:55 AM	#2
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	I told you man, there is something not right in there. It probably isn't seated on the strut properly, so when it compresses it is shifting. __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

11-17-2003, 04:20 PM	#3
GatorMan GAGT - Member AKA: Alex Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Carolina Age: 36 Posts: 325 Vehicle: 2001 red ga se coupev6	well is there something that the spring is supposed to sit in to make it now spin around. The guy said the he could turn the whole spring all the way around. I installed these on my stock struts. __________________ south cakillaky

11-17-2003, 04:57 PM	#4
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	no, the spring should not be able to spin around. the bottom plate of the strut goes like this (ignore dots): ......____ ___/ The end of the spring should butt against that angled portion. __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

11-17-2003, 05:04 PM	#5
lucky13rme GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Middletown, CT Age: 40 Posts: 274 Vehicle: 99 GA SE - 04 Ram 2500	I just installed my eibach's this past weekend and had a similiar problem. the spring wasn't seated properly on the bottom of the strut once i got it seated properly no more pop sound, also check to make sure that rubber piece is still there, if it's not that could generated some noise too. __________________ Tire size calculator My car's website

11-17-2003, 05:15 PM	#6
GatorMan GAGT - Member AKA: Alex Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Carolina Age: 36 Posts: 325 Vehicle: 2001 red ga se coupev6	hmm me and my friend installed these and were almost certain that we sat the spring right in there but maybe it shifted out. I'll drive it tomorrow and see what happens and if it keeps doing it then take off the wheel and check it out. __________________ south cakillaky

11-17-2003, 08:53 PM	#7
sound_xtreme Modalero Owner Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Findlay, Ohio Age: 38 Posts: 402 Vehicle: 1999 Oldsmobile Alero	technically there has to be something that the spring is seated on so the spring can turn freely. it is called a bearing plate. it is the second to top plate on your suspension. a lot of times the poping is created with a bad bearing plate. __________________ My Alero: http://www.cardomain.com/id/sound_xtreme http://www.aleroplanet.com/album Ohio Rides

11-18-2003, 08:48 AM	#8
tbone GAGT - Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Edmonton, Ab, Canada Posts: 129 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SE1 4dr	Get it fixed quick, My folks Malibu had some transaxle work done and the spring was never seated right but my mom thought that weas just how teh car was supposed to sound, untill the spring basically shattered from all the sudden jaring.

11-18-2003, 08:11 PM	#9
GatorMan GAGT - Member AKA: Alex Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Carolina Age: 36 Posts: 325 Vehicle: 2001 red ga se coupev6	ok....We now took the front off again according to the instructions inthe how to section and made the spring but up against the top part that angles down. The bottom has nothing to but the spring up against so we left it alone on that rubber peice...again. We put it all back together and the damn popping still happens. I installed them on my stock struts. People on this site have done this with success. I don't understand any way to fix this problem. If you guys would please help me with this problem. You guys are my only hope right now. Thanks for your support Alex __________________ south cakillaky

11-19-2003, 10:28 AM	#10
sound_xtreme Modalero Owner Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Findlay, Ohio Age: 38 Posts: 402 Vehicle: 1999 Oldsmobile Alero	did you try turning your bearing plate? cause that is probably the problem. the bearing plate allows the suspension to turn when you turn the wheel. if the bearing plate is no good or is not seated right with the top mounting plate it will not allow the suspension to turn freely, which will most likely make some popping noises.... __________________ My Alero: http://www.cardomain.com/id/sound_xtreme http://www.aleroplanet.com/album Ohio Rides

11-19-2003, 05:33 PM	#11
GatorMan GAGT - Member AKA: Alex Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Carolina Age: 36 Posts: 325 Vehicle: 2001 red ga se coupev6	i called h & r spring co. and they said that i probably overtightened the big bolt on top. He said that i need to torque it down to factory specs. I didnt even use an air gun or anything. I just turned it until it was tight. Does anyone have any pics of all the peices of the strut assembly and the parts labeled. Thanks Alex __________________ south cakillaky

11-19-2003, 05:37 PM	#12
GatorMan GAGT - Member AKA: Alex Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Carolina Age: 36 Posts: 325 Vehicle: 2001 red ga se coupev6	also is there something stopping the spring on the bottom __________________ south cakillaky

11-19-2003, 08:38 PM	#13
sound_xtreme Modalero Owner Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Findlay, Ohio Age: 38 Posts: 402 Vehicle: 1999 Oldsmobile Alero	i use an impact gun and i dont have any popping noises. I dont have any pics but here are the names and the order they are in from top to bottom. Strut tower- this is actually part of the body of the car and can not be removes mounting plate- has to bolts welded onto it and has one threaded hole bearing plate- flat angled plate. has a metal ring with bearing inside on the top. the metal ring contacts a groove on the mounting plate boot- black acordian looking thing. has an orange bump stop inside it. strut- pretty obvious spring- another obvious one. __________________ My Alero: http://www.cardomain.com/id/sound_xtreme http://www.aleroplanet.com/album Ohio Rides

11-22-2003, 09:13 AM	#14
krazyGT Bye, Bye, GAGT.... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Indianapolis, IN Age: 39 Posts: 220 Vehicle: 99 Eclipse GST Spyder	That's weird...just like two days ago I started hearing a poping sound also. And it's only from turning the wheel on the passenger side...from reading this...I imagine it's the bearing plate and will have it looked at immediatly! Thanks for the info guys....you save me yet again!! Steve

04-11-2006, 01:19 PM	#17
onesexyga onesexyfiero AKA: Kevin Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vermont/New Hampshire Age: 35 Posts: 1,534 Vehicle: 00 GAGT, 88 Fiero GT	Well as long as were resurrecting dead threads, same problem here. New struts and bearing plates, stock springs with 74k on them. The plates did seize up on my and that was definately the noise before. Sounded like gunfire. Its not nearly as bad now, but still doing it. Mostly turning right. More the faster or sharper the turn, basically just moving the suspension more. I know theyre seated right, You can see impressions on the rubber and metal where the spring goes. Its also really intermittent. Weathers been varying 60+ degrees lately, so maybe caused by a temp change?

04-11-2006, 01:31 PM	#18
Slim Captain Canuck AKA: Matt Join Date: Mar 1977 Location: Burlington, Ontario Age: 44 Posts: 3,593 Vehicle: 08 Acadia, 13 Mazda 6	The problem comes from the springs not being seated properly. You want to line the spring up with the stop on the bottom plate, not the top. The spring should rest against a slight edge. The prevents the spring from turing separate from the strut assembly. The popping noise is the spring shifting inside the mounts. __________________ Canadian to the core!

04-11-2006, 01:35 PM	#19
onesexyga onesexyfiero AKA: Kevin Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vermont/New Hampshire Age: 35 Posts: 1,534 Vehicle: 00 GAGT, 88 Fiero GT	The springs are lined up the the impression on the rubber gasket and metal plate of the strut. Really seems right to me.

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