H&R springs and KYB struts installed, problem.

coupe · 03-07-2004, 02:57 PM

Well it went great as far as install went. I got new rotors and pads at the same time since we where gonna be in there anyway. The ride is GREAT no bouncy or anything like that and the car feels like its on rails! Except one big problem. When i turn the wheel left or right i get a "crunch crunch POP POP" sound. We pulled the front springs and struts out 5 times and still couldnt figure out why the hell it would be making that sound. After the 5th try we said screw it. Its not hurtin anything that we could see its just that damn sound thats driven me nuts. Any ideas? It sounds like @ss and its embarrasing.

2003GAGT · 03-07-2004, 03:53 PM

Did you re-use the old strut mounts? Worn strut mounts will cause the sound you are describing...

coupe · 03-07-2004, 03:57 PM

The strut mounts looked fine. It could be but i doubt it. If so where can i get them? I would have to imagine that the mounts would look worn if they where but they looked fine.

EBlend · 03-07-2004, 05:33 PM

apply some grease between the 2 plates...shoot i have no idea what u call those, do a search here, someone had a picture of where to put the greese

AMRAAM4 · 03-08-2004, 06:48 AM

I never EVER want to see KYB struts again. They seriously need to rethink their stupid ass design.

PUT A NORMAL TIP ON THE STRUT!!!!!!!!!!

coupe · 03-08-2004, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMRAAM4
I never EVER want to see KYB struts again. They seriously need to rethink their stupid ass design.

PUT A NORMAL TIP ON THE STRUT!!!!!!!!!!

I hear that for sure. We were not pleased with them either. The ride quality is great though, no bounce.

coupe · 03-08-2004, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EBlend
apply some grease between the 2 plates...shoot i have no idea what u call those, do a search here, someone had a picture of where to put the greese

I hear people say they do that but it only lasts for a short while. I want a permanent fix.

iceman · 03-08-2004, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by coupe
I hear people say they do that but it only lasts for a short while. I want a permanent fix.

it's permanent.

coupe · 03-08-2004, 02:19 PM

This will fix both the crunch crunch and POP POP?

iceman · 03-08-2004, 02:20 PM

Go try it and find out. Repair is a process of elimination

coupe · 03-08-2004, 02:28 PM

It kinda sucks though becuase i have to pull it all apart again and realign it, i hate that damn machine. Im gonna try it next week, i have to deal with it till then.

Aleromi · 03-08-2004, 02:51 PM

Yea i agree that ur upper struts mounts are bad...

U can buy them from any parts store... Just call around to get the best price.
Coupe Pm me is ya need help with parts...

I really didn't have any problems with my KYB's.... i guess i got lucky..

later.

coupe · 03-08-2004, 02:56 PM

How much do they go for? Not only that but wont OEM replacements do the same thing and go bad on me again?

Aleromi · 03-08-2004, 04:22 PM

Well something like 50-60 bucks each..

And Oem or aftermarket will wear in time... The upper struts plates are a wearable part....

illsmokeyou · 03-08-2004, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EBlend
apply some grease between the 2 plates...shoot i have no idea what u call those, do a search here, someone had a picture of where to put the greese

that was me.

Its pretty common, and I have heard similar stories, myself included when I installed my H&R's.... the KYB's have nothing to do with it, shoot, I had the same problem and I still have my stock struts.

The problem for some unkown reason, is that the upper strut mount doesnt turn freely on the lower bearing plate (one with the rubber in the middle), and the 2 are grinding against each other as you turn the wheel.

Apply some all purpose grease to the lower bearing plate (I had that picture on my PC but im on my laptop right now.... let me know if you absolutely need it), and that should permanently fix it, at least I have not heard a single "creak" in about a year and a half, or about 15K

coupe · 03-10-2004, 02:41 PM

Im gonna try the grease asap. I wont be buying new mounts though, they will just wear on me again.

Slim · 03-11-2004, 08:38 AM

I had that clunking noise after I installed my H&Rs. It happened every time I turned the wheel. It eventually went away after the springs finished settling. They just need a bit of time to seat properly. Be patient, it will eventually go away. In the mean time, spray them down with a little lithium grease.

coupe · 03-12-2004, 08:52 AM

Thats the answer i was hoping for. Do i have to dismantle the fronts to grease them? And where do i get this lithium grease?

2kramairGT · 03-13-2004, 09:17 AM

I am getting a loud noise from the drivers side rear suspension, i am taking wheel off today to see if anything is broken but the noise sucks. Just started yesterday and i installed my kyb H&R setup like 5k miles ago. It is loud when I hit bumps or turn. It may be the exhaust but the noise was never there before. TIme to go check.

coupe · 03-13-2004, 09:50 AM

My noise goes exactly like this: crunchcrunchcrunch POP POP.

03-07-2004, 02:57 PM	#1
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	H&R springs and KYB struts installed, problem. Well it went great as far as install went. I got new rotors and pads at the same time since we where gonna be in there anyway. The ride is GREAT no bouncy or anything like that and the car feels like its on rails! Except one big problem. When i turn the wheel left or right i get a "crunch crunch POP POP" sound. We pulled the front springs and struts out 5 times and still couldnt figure out why the hell it would be making that sound. After the 5th try we said screw it. Its not hurtin anything that we could see its just that damn sound thats driven me nuts. Any ideas? It sounds like @ss and its embarrasing. __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

03-07-2004, 03:57 PM	#3
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	The strut mounts looked fine. It could be but i doubt it. If so where can i get them? I would have to imagine that the mounts would look worn if they where but they looked fine. __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

03-08-2004, 06:48 AM	#5
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	I never EVER want to see KYB struts again. They seriously need to rethink their stupid ass design. PUT A NORMAL TIP ON THE STRUT!!!!!!!!!! __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

03-08-2004, 02:19 PM	#9
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	This will fix both the crunch crunch and POP POP? __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

03-08-2004, 02:20 PM	#10
iceman woop woop AKA: Seth Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Age: 41 Posts: 10,528 Vehicle: 97 Blazer - 84 Fiero	Go try it and find out. Repair is a process of elimination __________________ --Seth Support GrandAmGT.com sponsors! My Picture Gallery \| GoneDragRacing.com Drag Racing Photos & Videos

03-07-2004, 03:53 PM	#2
2003GAGT Flossin Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 37 Posts: 389 Vehicle: 03 Grand Am GT	Did you re-use the old strut mounts? Worn strut mounts will cause the sound you are describing...

03-07-2004, 05:33 PM	#4
EBlend GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Calgary, AB Age: 37 Posts: 1,308	apply some grease between the 2 plates...shoot i have no idea what u call those, do a search here, someone had a picture of where to put the greese

03-08-2004, 02:28 PM	#11
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	It kinda sucks though becuase i have to pull it all apart again and realign it, i hate that damn machine. Im gonna try it next week, i have to deal with it till then. __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

03-08-2004, 02:51 PM	#12
Aleromi User account under probation AKA: Will Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dearborn hts,MICHIGAN Age: 49 Posts: 316 Vehicle: 1999 ALERO	Yea i agree that ur upper struts mounts are bad... U can buy them from any parts store... Just call around to get the best price. Coupe Pm me is ya need help with parts... I really didn't have any problems with my KYB's.... i guess i got lucky.. later. Last edited by Aleromi; 03-08-2004 at 02:55 PM.

03-08-2004, 02:56 PM	#13
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	How much do they go for? Not only that but wont OEM replacements do the same thing and go bad on me again? __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

03-08-2004, 04:22 PM	#14
Aleromi User account under probation AKA: Will Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dearborn hts,MICHIGAN Age: 49 Posts: 316 Vehicle: 1999 ALERO	Well something like 50-60 bucks each.. And Oem or aftermarket will wear in time... The upper struts plates are a wearable part....

03-10-2004, 02:41 PM	#16
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	Im gonna try the grease asap. I wont be buying new mounts though, they will just wear on me again. __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

03-11-2004, 08:38 AM	#17
Slim Captain Canuck AKA: Matt Join Date: Mar 1977 Location: Burlington, Ontario Age: 44 Posts: 3,593 Vehicle: 08 Acadia, 13 Mazda 6	I had that clunking noise after I installed my H&Rs. It happened every time I turned the wheel. It eventually went away after the springs finished settling. They just need a bit of time to seat properly. Be patient, it will eventually go away. In the mean time, spray them down with a little lithium grease. __________________ Canadian to the core!

03-12-2004, 08:52 AM	#18
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	Thats the answer i was hoping for. Do i have to dismantle the fronts to grease them? And where do i get this lithium grease? __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

03-13-2004, 09:17 AM	#19
2kramairGT GAGT - Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 39 Posts: 233 Vehicle: 2000 GaGT Coupe	I am getting a loud noise from the drivers side rear suspension, i am taking wheel off today to see if anything is broken but the noise sucks. Just started yesterday and i installed my kyb H&R setup like 5k miles ago. It is loud when I hit bumps or turn. It may be the exhaust but the noise was never there before. TIme to go check.

03-13-2004, 09:50 AM	#20
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	My noise goes exactly like this: crunchcrunchcrunch POP POP. __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

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