Civic Si 99'

vinniGT · 03-18-2004, 10:30 PM

My friend offered me the body of a 99' civic si for 2k. no engine. no trans. perfect condition. the only reason im considering this is that i could put a b18 or whatever in it and new trans and maybe it'd haul some ass? what do you guys think? should i go for it and maybe by the summer or fall i'll have it done? or just say no to civics? anyone know any good honda civic boards?

grandamgt6969 · 03-18-2004, 10:36 PM

Is the body in good shape? Is the interior striped? Mabye its a good idea. Make it your racer. Put just an engine and tranny, no AC no extra stupid stuff. And just race it.

BTW did you sell the s60?

vinniGT · 03-18-2004, 10:39 PM

no the s60 will hopefully be my daily driver for a good while = )

the interior is not stripped by the way. everything is there. i think the kid was gonna attempt to swap the tranny for the six speed rsx transmission and ka20 or whatever engine they have

SC/TGrandAm · 03-18-2004, 10:56 PM

say no to civics.

That engine swap will get you to where? like a 14.... woohoo. If your in it that much and your going for speed and for racing you got along ways to go to get respectable times. Better start saving mad cash. Civics start out in like the 17's or worse, raise that about 5 seconds or more and you might raise some eyebrows.

grandamgt6969 · 03-18-2004, 10:57 PM

Dude if you still have the s60 forget the civic. Mod the crap out of that T5. That has the 2.3L right? Dude with a chip exhaust intake IC upgrade mabye PP exhaust manifold you can be very well over 300hp on that thing. Do those come with a manual?

vinniGT · 03-18-2004, 11:11 PM

It seems that people mod out those volvos with chip, intake, exhaust, and stuff and still run high 14's. It is NOT cheap to modify a volvo s60. i was gonna have a 01' t5 we got from copart , everything appeared to be fine then figures it had been in a flood. the car was ****ed. so we got a 2002 s60 2.4t automatic . higher compression engine smaller turbo. bout 200hp stock. i posted pics of it on this site. very nice car, still feels faster than the grand am i had. my dad absolutely loves volvos. i figured i would swap the turbo and have it be much faster than a t5. My brother got me to think twice about modifying the volvo due to that if something breaks....i probably wont have the money to fix it. its automatic, and would probably last me 15 years as a daily driver if i take care of it. and i dont have to make payments on it for 3 years. which in the long run may be a smarter choice. but nothing is set in stone.

the s60 is beautiful (in my eyes)

Silver02EX · 03-19-2004, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SC/TGrandAm
say no to civics.

That engine swap will get you no where? like a 14.... woohoo. If your in it that much and your going for speed and for racing you got along ways to go to get respectable times. Better start saving mad cash. Civics start out in like the 17's or worse, raise that about 5 seconds or more and you might raise some eyebrows.

Do a search and you will find my friend's B18c 99 SI coupe that hit 13.5 with just Intake and exahust. You can build a all motor hatch for about $7,000... which can hit 13's easy. I wouldn't consider that mad cash...

If I was you and want to do a swap, I would look into a CX hatch or a CRX... As far as the engine go... I would go with a JDM B18C

It is going to be very hard to swap in a K20 into a 6th gen civic considering that the K20 sit on the other side of the engine bay vs. the B series engine. It's much easier to swap in a K20 in a 7th gen civic. If you have a 6th gen civic, it would be much better to swap in a B or H series motor. Keep in mind that if you can get the car for $2K, you can find a B16 somewhere and drop that in and turn around and sell it for a lot more than what you paid for.

www.clubsi.com There's a start

I would take something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2467371785

drop this in: http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30010

Now you have a 13 sec. car

AMRAAM4 · 03-19-2004, 06:29 AM

How about a B18 put in, then a turbo kit added?

DumpsterDamon · 03-19-2004, 07:18 AM

what about the b-52's? they were cool back in the 80's!

Nikki · 03-19-2004, 07:22 AM

I have a friend with a 94 Civic with a B18 swap and turbo and he is runnin low 12s...

Doubt me? Check around on ToledoTuners for "turbolscivic94"

AMRAAM4 · 03-19-2004, 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by DumpsterDamon
what about the b-52's? they were cool back in the 80's!

that would be the 60's....that plane is over 50 yrs old and still slated for inventory till 2045

...back to our regularly scheduled program

Slim · 03-19-2004, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMRAAM4
that would be the 60's....that plane is over 50 yrs old and still slated for inventory till 2045

...back to our regularly scheduled program

I think DD's talking about the group "The B-52s", not the bomber.

As for the Civic. He's offering you a shell for $2,000? How much is a '99 Si with an engine and trans? The b18 swap is popular, but doesn't the 'Lude engine also fit into the Civics? I don't remember.

Silver02EX · 03-19-2004, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slim25
I think DD's talking about the group "The B-52s", not the bomber.

As for the Civic. He's offering you a shell for $2,000? How much is a '99 Si with an engine and trans? The b18 swap is popular, but doesn't the 'Lude engine also fit into the Civics? I don't remember.

Yes the H22 does fit but it's a much harder swap to do.. considering that the engine bay on the civic is smaller than the prelude. It's not a drop in like a B series.

teambeechstreet · 03-19-2004, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slim25
I think DD's talking about the group "The B-52s", not the bomber.

As for the Civic. He's offering you a shell for $2,000? How much is a '99 Si with an engine and trans? The b18 swap is popular, but doesn't the 'Lude engine also fit into the Civics? I don't remember.

You'd have to put a lot of money into suspension and strengthen the chassis because the H22 has quite a bit of power for the normal 96-00 civic chassis. As for 6th gen civics being slow w/swaps, I have a chickfriend with a 96 Civic DX with a B20 with i/e and she runs low 14s, then I have another chick friend with the same model car but she has a turbo B18 and shes running low 13s high 12s.

You can find 99-00 Si's with about 60K miles and perfectly running for around $8-9K.

And yeah, itd be way too hard to swap the new k-series into anything 6th gen and down. There is a 89 hatch with a k20a3 and 5spd tranny, but the guy spent mad cash to do the swap.

Silver02EX · 03-19-2004, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMRAAM4
How about a B18 put in, then a turbo kit added?

In that case this is what you could get:
http://oregonstate.edu/~uyemuraa/Duc%20Dyno/DucDyno.mpg

712 HP.

Silver02EX · 03-19-2004, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by teambeechstreet

There is a 89 hatch with a k20a3 and 5spd tranny, but the guy spent mad cash to do the swap.

Actually that was a K20a2 from the Type S... The car is up on ebay right now. He even put the guage from the RSX in the car.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting

teambeechstreet · 03-19-2004, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Silver02EX
Actually that was a K20a2 from the Type S... The car is up on ebay right now. He even put the guage from the RSX in the car.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting

oh, my bad. i saw it on ephatch.com and they said it was a k20a3

vinniGT · 03-19-2004, 11:42 AM

If i do it im thinking b18c. The engine is already out of the car for me. i figure for about the price of buying a stock 99-00 si that runs well i can have one with the b18c and i'd go off of that foundation. maybe some boost. maybe even a huge spoiler thats taller than the car

VTECSiGAH8R · 03-19-2004, 05:22 PM

All I have to say is built B18B block w/ VTEC heads + turbo+tuning will net you anywhere from 400-750 fwhp depending on the tune and build and fuel. And if you add LSD and some tire you'll have a 10-11 second Civic...which is faster than any street GA BTW.....by quite a bit (for the one that said the swap will net 14s).

The advantage of a B18B block w/ VTEC heads?? Well it is much more common and easier to find than the other B18s and if you want good power you're gonna build up the bottom end (sleeves, blueprinted, balanced, decked, different crank, stronger rods, pistons, etc.) anyway, and it allows you the freedom to choose whatever VTEC head you want. Search for "st00pid" online and you'll probably find some wickedly tuned turbo Civics.

blake · 03-22-2004, 08:20 PM

http://www.epikmotorsports.com/siteh...ivic_page.html

= teh badass

that dyno was before a lot of the mods and tuning

owner spent over 20K in just engine work, cocaine $$ goes a long way..till you get caught...in jail for a while, epik (ppl who did work on the car) sold it a few months ago for 9K to some lucky guy

03-18-2004, 10:30 PM	#1
vinniGT GAGT - Member AKA: Vincent Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 35 Posts: 180 Vehicle: 2000 Civic Si	Civic Si 99' My friend offered me the body of a 99' civic si for 2k. no engine. no trans. perfect condition. the only reason im considering this is that i could put a b18 or whatever in it and new trans and maybe it'd haul some ass? what do you guys think? should i go for it and maybe by the summer or fall i'll have it done? or just say no to civics? anyone know any good honda civic boards? __________________ -Vincent- 1999 Grand am Gt (Gone) A good friend will come and bail you out of jail. But a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "That was f%#@ing awesome!"

03-18-2004, 10:39 PM	#3
vinniGT GAGT - Member AKA: Vincent Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 35 Posts: 180 Vehicle: 2000 Civic Si	no the s60 will hopefully be my daily driver for a good while = ) the interior is not stripped by the way. everything is there. i think the kid was gonna attempt to swap the tranny for the six speed rsx transmission and ka20 or whatever engine they have __________________ -Vincent- 1999 Grand am Gt (Gone) A good friend will come and bail you out of jail. But a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "That was f%#@ing awesome!" Last edited by vinniGT; 03-18-2004 at 10:42 PM.

03-18-2004, 10:56 PM	#4
SC/TGrandAm Newbie AKA: Kyle Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI Age: 39 Posts: 2,944 Vehicle: 2008 Accord	say no to civics. That engine swap will get you to where? like a 14.... woohoo. If your in it that much and your going for speed and for racing you got along ways to go to get respectable times. Better start saving mad cash. Civics start out in like the 17's or worse, raise that about 5 seconds or more and you might raise some eyebrows. __________________ 2008 Accord EX-L Coupe 2002 GA SCT- R.I.P HID Pioneer http://www.myspace.com/Kleigou

03-18-2004, 11:11 PM	#6
vinniGT GAGT - Member AKA: Vincent Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 35 Posts: 180 Vehicle: 2000 Civic Si	It seems that people mod out those volvos with chip, intake, exhaust, and stuff and still run high 14's. It is NOT cheap to modify a volvo s60. i was gonna have a 01' t5 we got from copart , everything appeared to be fine then figures it had been in a flood. the car was ****ed. so we got a 2002 s60 2.4t automatic . higher compression engine smaller turbo. bout 200hp stock. i posted pics of it on this site. very nice car, still feels faster than the grand am i had. my dad absolutely loves volvos. i figured i would swap the turbo and have it be much faster than a t5. My brother got me to think twice about modifying the volvo due to that if something breaks....i probably wont have the money to fix it. its automatic, and would probably last me 15 years as a daily driver if i take care of it. and i dont have to make payments on it for 3 years. which in the long run may be a smarter choice. but nothing is set in stone. the s60 is beautiful (in my eyes) Attached Thumbnails __________________ -Vincent- 1999 Grand am Gt (Gone) A good friend will come and bail you out of jail. But a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "That was f%#@ing awesome!"

03-19-2004, 06:29 AM	#8
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	How about a B18 put in, then a turbo kit added? __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

03-18-2004, 10:36 PM	#2
grandamgt6969 GAGT - Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Age: 35 Posts: 222 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	Is the body in good shape? Is the interior striped? Mabye its a good idea. Make it your racer. Put just an engine and tranny, no AC no extra stupid stuff. And just race it. BTW did you sell the s60?

03-18-2004, 10:57 PM	#5
grandamgt6969 GAGT - Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Age: 35 Posts: 222 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	Dude if you still have the s60 forget the civic. Mod the crap out of that T5. That has the 2.3L right? Dude with a chip exhaust intake IC upgrade mabye PP exhaust manifold you can be very well over 300hp on that thing. Do those come with a manual?

03-19-2004, 07:22 AM	#10
Nikki 6 speed sickness. AKA: ~Nikki~ Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Age: 43 Posts: 1,892 Vehicle: '06 G6 GTP Sedan	I have a friend with a 94 Civic with a B18 swap and turbo and he is runnin low 12s... Doubt me? Check around on ToledoTuners for "turbolscivic94" __________________ ::Redline Motorsport Member:: *Goodbye Accord & Talon...Hello G6 GTP 6MT*

03-19-2004, 11:42 AM	#18
vinniGT GAGT - Member AKA: Vincent Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 35 Posts: 180 Vehicle: 2000 Civic Si	If i do it im thinking b18c. The engine is already out of the car for me. i figure for about the price of buying a stock 99-00 si that runs well i can have one with the b18c and i'd go off of that foundation. maybe some boost. maybe even a huge spoiler thats taller than the car __________________ -Vincent- 1999 Grand am Gt (Gone) A good friend will come and bail you out of jail. But a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "That was f%#@ing awesome!" Last edited by vinniGT; 03-19-2004 at 11:46 AM.

03-19-2004, 05:22 PM	#19
VTECSiGAH8R GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Miami, FL Age: 36 Posts: 1,346 Vehicle: 97 Honda Civic DX	All I have to say is built B18B block w/ VTEC heads + turbo+tuning will net you anywhere from 400-750 fwhp depending on the tune and build and fuel. And if you add LSD and some tire you'll have a 10-11 second Civic...which is faster than any street GA BTW.....by quite a bit (for the one that said the swap will net 14s). The advantage of a B18B block w/ VTEC heads?? Well it is much more common and easier to find than the other B18s and if you want good power you're gonna build up the bottom end (sleeves, blueprinted, balanced, decked, different crank, stronger rods, pistons, etc.) anyway, and it allows you the freedom to choose whatever VTEC head you want. Search for "st00pid" online and you'll probably find some wickedly tuned turbo Civics.

03-22-2004, 08:20 PM	#20
blake bob's back! AKA: blake Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: florence, sc Age: 36 Posts: 2,036 Vehicle: 06 xterra	http://www.epikmotorsports.com/siteh...ivic_page.html = teh badass that dyno was before a lot of the mods and tuning owner spent over 20K in just engine work, cocaine $$ goes a long way..till you get caught...in jail for a while, epik (ppl who did work on the car) sold it a few months ago for 9K to some lucky guy __________________ eh. the cardomain of my old grand am gt

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