Spring/Summer's coming and im going crazy!

Avsguy01 · 03-19-2004, 05:32 AM

I need help! I cant seem to make a decision. I want some rims badly! I want 5 star chrome rims; i know that much. My two canidates are the ever so popular 077's and the 185's.

For a while up until about now i have been dead set on the 185's. I really like the design and they seem to be fairly light for chrome rims. My only concern is that they only come in 17". Theres not much to say about these. I like them point blank.

Of course, recently ive kinda been checking the 18" chrome 077's out again. Now that eaglewheels has them on sale for $785 thats one killer deal that's almost insane to pass up. My only gripe is them suckers are 30lbs! Ive done quite a bit of performance work and have put that over appearance with my car but now i want something that looks really good that suits my tastes but these rims being 30lbs i know must really shoot the performance out the water. Not only killing 1/4 mile times but even degrading cornering and braking. (anybody with these 077 chrome wheels can you honestly testify these conclusions?) Another thing as far as tires go for this wheel, eaglewheels is selling a tire that goes with these rims for the size of 265/35ZR18. To me thats sound completely wrong.

Anyway, i think ive asked some help on these two rims before but this is my final request on helping me make a decision, considering pros and cons of these wheels, as to which ones to buy.

Thank you for any advice

jazzman · 03-19-2004, 07:39 AM

i'd say forgo the 18's, get the 17's. I'm sure amraam will step in and tell you to get the 18's, but honestly if your that concerned about weight just go with the 185's. You don't see them as much and their really nice and lighter.

However, i'm sure whatever you choose you'll be happy with and yes that tire size is wrong, sounds like a size for a TA or something. I think the size you want is 235/40 18?, correct me if I'm wrong.

Derek

Roush GT · 03-19-2004, 07:48 AM

18's all the way!!!

Seriously though, 17's aren't much of an upgrade from stock by just looking. I'm getting the chrome 18x8 077's.. I also believe Eagle's site is wrong on the weight.. I'd say they are more like 26 or 27 lbs.

The right size would be 225/40/18 but 235 will work and will probably be what I choose to go with.

PACE · 03-19-2004, 07:50 AM

18's will actually HELP cornering - Not hurt it.

jordanGT · 03-19-2004, 07:58 AM

yeah; i notice a huge difference from changing out wheels and tires. even though my wheels are heavy as, well, something really heavy, they handle somewhere in the high millions better than the stockers.
also, i say go 18s...just cuz i like the look of 18s a lot better than 17s. You can definitely tell the difference. I wouldn't get the Eagle's, but that's just cuz a million people on here have them, but you'd probably be the only one in your area, so that's not too big of a deal.

AMRAAM4 · 03-19-2004, 08:03 AM

For the 100th time...let me state this, and lets see if you people will actually adhere to the facts or continue to believe propoganda

--Chrome Eagle 077's DO NOT WEIGHT 30lbs.

--Weight of a wheel is NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE in a Grand Am and what you use it for!!! Unless all you do is drag race or AutoX and you're shooting to beat those few people you just can't top!!

--If you are that worried about weight, lose some yourself....or better yet, take a crap before you get in the car for racing, because that right there will deduct 2-3lbs. AND THIS IS NOT EXAGGERATION!

For the love of Christ people, listen for once, it gets tiring when people have to constantly enforce stuff that does not hold true for our vehicles! And in addition, I know it is my opinion, but seeing that I am constantly following the wheel world....the 185's do ABSOLUTELY nothing for our car. Add the 17" tire to that wheel and it looks like you have balloons wrapped around them. Not much of a change from stock and seeing their design I'd bet they are as heavy as the 077 or more, regardless what you read.

02PONtiac! · 03-19-2004, 08:14 AM

Dude, I'm laughing in hysterics right now!! I'll talk to you guys later, I gotta take a huge crap!

RAZE · 03-19-2004, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by AMRAAM4

--or better yet, take a crap before you get in the car for racing, because that right there will deduct 2-3lbs. AND THIS IS NOT EXAGGERATION!
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I did that during the GAOC meet and my times were exactly the same to the tenth of a second.

Also, with my 18" Chrome 077's, my car handled exactly the same as stock!! Only difference was I had better tires.

Once again... Go 18 or Go Home.

AMRAAM4 · 03-19-2004, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RAZE
I did that during the GAOC meet and my times were exactly the same to the tenth of a second.

Also, with my 18" Chrome 077's, my car handled exactly the same as stock!! Only difference was I had better tires.

Once again... Go 18 or Go Home.

That makes no sense, stop adding to the idiocy of this argument. And the fact YOU DON"T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE may have had an involvement

Avsguy01 · 03-19-2004, 08:24 AM

You guys are beating me to a pulp

Since eaglewheels is having a deal 18" chrome 077's it is.

RAZE · 03-19-2004, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMRAAM4
That makes no sense, stop adding to the idiocy of this argument. And the fact YOU DON"T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE may have had an involvement

Which part doesn't make sense?

Kdawg207 · 03-19-2004, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Avsguy01
You guys are beating me to a pulp Since eaglewheels is having a deal 18" chrome 077's it is.

02PONtiac! · 03-19-2004, 08:28 AM

Yeah go with the 18's. 17 just aren't about it bout it.

RAZE · 03-19-2004, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 02PONtiac!
Yeah go with the 18's. 17 just aren't about it bout it.

Are you back from your dump?

AMRAAM4 · 03-19-2004, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RAZE
Which part doesn't make sense?

That handling did not change. Trust me, it changed.

And another thing, for the people who push 17"s and their weight, blah blah blah. Explain to me why racers are starting to upsize from 17 to 18

02PONtiac! · 03-19-2004, 08:31 AM

Yup just pinched a loaf. Good choice on the decision.

RAZE · 03-19-2004, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMRAAM4
That handling did not change. Trust me, it changed.

And another thing, for the people who push 17"s and their weight, blah blah blah. Explain to me why racers are starting to upsize from 17 to 18

I noticed a change in handling when the car was dropped. When I took my wheels off for the winter, the handling didn't seem any different.

02PONtiac! · 03-19-2004, 08:37 AM

Tires make a big difference.

Avsguy01 · 03-19-2004, 08:48 AM

what do you think about these bad boys
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

elim · 03-19-2004, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Avsguy01
what do you think about these bad boys
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

I guess, if that's what you like.

Personally, I'd rather get Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 or Sumitomo HTRZ II.

But then again, I'm on a tight budget.

03-19-2004, 05:32 AM	#1
Avsguy01 Roll'n down the road Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clayton, De Age: 39 Posts: 717 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coup	Spring/Summer's coming and im going crazy! I need help! I cant seem to make a decision. I want some rims badly! I want 5 star chrome rims; i know that much. My two canidates are the ever so popular 077's and the 185's. For a while up until about now i have been dead set on the 185's. I really like the design and they seem to be fairly light for chrome rims. My only concern is that they only come in 17". Theres not much to say about these. I like them point blank. Of course, recently ive kinda been checking the 18" chrome 077's out again. Now that eaglewheels has them on sale for $785 thats one killer deal that's almost insane to pass up. My only gripe is them suckers are 30lbs! Ive done quite a bit of performance work and have put that over appearance with my car but now i want something that looks really good that suits my tastes but these rims being 30lbs i know must really shoot the performance out the water. Not only killing 1/4 mile times but even degrading cornering and braking. (anybody with these 077 chrome wheels can you honestly testify these conclusions?) Another thing as far as tires go for this wheel, eaglewheels is selling a tire that goes with these rims for the size of 265/35ZR18. To me thats sound completely wrong. Anyway, i think ive asked some help on these two rims before but this is my final request on helping me make a decision, considering pros and cons of these wheels, as to which ones to buy. Thank you for any advice __________________ Michael "MSK" P O N T I A C *Grand Am GT* New time coming up this spring My N-Body Registry My Cardomain

03-19-2004, 07:39 AM	#2
jazzman Pontiac Performance AKA: Derek Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wisconsin Age: 35 Posts: 460 Vehicle: 95 GA 95 Mustang GT	i'd say forgo the 18's, get the 17's. I'm sure amraam will step in and tell you to get the 18's, but honestly if your that concerned about weight just go with the 185's. You don't see them as much and their really nice and lighter. However, i'm sure whatever you choose you'll be happy with and yes that tire size is wrong, sounds like a size for a TA or something. I think the size you want is 235/40 18?, correct me if I'm wrong. Derek __________________ - Derek The Garage 1995 Grand Am SE - SOLD 1998 Grand Prix GTP - SOLD 1995 Mustang GT - LS Swap in Progress! 2005 Cadillac CTS-V - Tint, Magnaflow, Stereo

03-19-2004, 07:48 AM	#3
Roush GT Moderator AKA: Chris Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dry Ridge,Ky Age: 47 Posts: 1,441 Vehicle: 2016 Hyundai Veloster	18's all the way!!! Seriously though, 17's aren't much of an upgrade from stock by just looking. I'm getting the chrome 18x8 077's.. I also believe Eagle's site is wrong on the weight.. I'd say they are more like 26 or 27 lbs. The right size would be 225/40/18 but 235 will work and will probably be what I choose to go with. __________________ 2007 Vista Blue Premium GT w/ Roush body kit. Roush wheels, Roush door sill plates, Roush Off-Roads, Roush Leather, Roush Toolkit Roush Stage 2 Suspension, Roush LCA's Steeda Pro Action Shocks & Struts Roush anti-wheel hop kit, Roush hood struts. Gone, but not forgotten.

03-19-2004, 07:50 AM	#4
PACE Woooo Woooooooo ! AKA: Jason Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clarkston, MI Age: 43 Posts: 2,514 Vehicle: GRAND AMERICAN	18's will actually HELP cornering - Not hurt it. __________________ Grand Am---Long gone. 2009 Yukon Denali with 4" drop on 24" black Escalade wheels -- in the garage 1970 Impala convertible triple black - In the Garage

03-19-2004, 07:58 AM	#5
jordanGT Look what I can do. AKA: Jordan Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Scottsburg, IN Age: 36 Posts: 675 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am on 18s	yeah; i notice a huge difference from changing out wheels and tires. even though my wheels are heavy as, well, something really heavy, they handle somewhere in the high millions better than the stockers. also, i say go 18s...just cuz i like the look of 18s a lot better than 17s. You can definitely tell the difference. I wouldn't get the Eagle's, but that's just cuz a million people on here have them, but you'd probably be the only one in your area, so that's not too big of a deal. __________________ "Diamonds: that'll shut her up...For a minute."

03-19-2004, 08:03 AM	#6
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	For the 100th time...let me state this, and lets see if you people will actually adhere to the facts or continue to believe propoganda --Chrome Eagle 077's DO NOT WEIGHT 30lbs. --Weight of a wheel is NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE in a Grand Am and what you use it for!!! Unless all you do is drag race or AutoX and you're shooting to beat those few people you just can't top!! --If you are that worried about weight, lose some yourself....or better yet, take a crap before you get in the car for racing, because that right there will deduct 2-3lbs. AND THIS IS NOT EXAGGERATION! For the love of Christ people, listen for once, it gets tiring when people have to constantly enforce stuff that does not hold true for our vehicles! And in addition, I know it is my opinion, but seeing that I am constantly following the wheel world....the 185's do ABSOLUTELY nothing for our car. Add the 17" tire to that wheel and it looks like you have balloons wrapped around them. Not much of a change from stock and seeing their design I'd bet they are as heavy as the 077 or more, regardless what you read. __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500 Last edited by AMRAAM4; 03-19-2004 at 08:05 AM.

03-19-2004, 08:14 AM	#7
02PONtiac! Fake Oakleys 4 sale! AKA: Bob Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Riverside California Age: 44 Posts: 532 Vehicle: 2002 silver GT1 sedan	Dude, I'm laughing in hysterics right now!! I'll talk to you guys later, I gotta take a huge crap! __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/436065

03-19-2004, 08:24 AM	#10
Avsguy01 Roll'n down the road Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clayton, De Age: 39 Posts: 717 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coup	You guys are beating me to a pulp Since eaglewheels is having a deal 18" chrome 077's it is. __________________ Michael "MSK" P O N T I A C *Grand Am GT* New time coming up this spring My N-Body Registry My Cardomain

03-19-2004, 08:28 AM	#13
02PONtiac! Fake Oakleys 4 sale! AKA: Bob Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Riverside California Age: 44 Posts: 532 Vehicle: 2002 silver GT1 sedan	Yeah go with the 18's. 17 just aren't about it bout it. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/436065

03-19-2004, 08:31 AM	#16
02PONtiac! Fake Oakleys 4 sale! AKA: Bob Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Riverside California Age: 44 Posts: 532 Vehicle: 2002 silver GT1 sedan	Yup just pinched a loaf. Good choice on the decision. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/436065

03-19-2004, 08:37 AM	#18
02PONtiac! Fake Oakleys 4 sale! AKA: Bob Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Riverside California Age: 44 Posts: 532 Vehicle: 2002 silver GT1 sedan	Tires make a big difference. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/436065

03-19-2004, 08:48 AM	#19
Avsguy01 Roll'n down the road Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clayton, De Age: 39 Posts: 717 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT Coup	what do you think about these bad boys http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes __________________ Michael "MSK" P O N T I A C *Grand Am GT* New time coming up this spring My N-Body Registry My Cardomain

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