Performance Pistons

SpikeSpiegel1SC · 03-24-2004, 12:39 PM

Ive heard you can get performance or racing pistons for the engine and it will add alot of HP and last longer. Anybody know where I can get one of these for my 3400?

atc3434 · 03-24-2004, 05:11 PM

Who ever told you that is not thinking much! As far as I know, there are no aftermarket pistons for the 3400 at this point, and even if there were, the power gains would not be substancial. The benifit would be strenght and less reciprocating mass. Perhaps a bit of compression could be added with different pistons, but headwork would be MUCH easier.

ZakkWylde470 · 03-24-2004, 05:28 PM

I'm sure if you threw down enough $$$$$ you could get a company to make custom pistons for just about anything.

n43210 · 03-25-2004, 12:00 AM

yep custom=lots of money

95-GT · 03-25-2004, 03:31 AM

About $500-$600.

SpikeSpiegel1SC · 03-25-2004, 06:34 AM

Dam forget that than

. Whats a good mod than? Other than the usual cold air and exhaust, no dont say NOS im not sticking that in my baby!

95-GT · 03-25-2004, 12:10 PM

Heads, Intakes, DHP, stickers, yellow stickers.

SpikeSpiegel1SC · 03-25-2004, 01:39 PM

what do you mean stickers and yellow stickers?

95-GT · 03-25-2004, 02:07 PM

stickers add power. yellow stickers add the most.

AaronGAGT · 03-25-2004, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 95-GT
stickers add power. yellow stickers add the most.

Yep. Also usually the bigger they are, the more torque they add too.

Babalouie · 03-25-2004, 05:33 PM

I have froged pistons, rods, etc. Pistons.....i repeat.........pistons do not give you power! They are there too hold the abuse that you are going to feed them. After you get a forged piston, get a forged set of rods. Now we aren't talking about $30 mods here. You are looking at an engine rebuild.

95-GT · 03-25-2004, 05:35 PM

pistons can add power!!! high c.r..

Gt00 · 03-25-2004, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Babalouie
Pistons.....i repeat.........pistons do not give you power!

HUH ?

Higher Compression pistons and lighter weight pistons will give you more power . ( Even the type of rings and the location of the ring lands effects power ) .

Dr_Kyle · 03-25-2004, 06:00 PM

I was under the impression that our factory rods were pretty strong. Pistons could definitely use some improvements for higher power levels though.

95-GT · 03-25-2004, 09:19 PM

Should have any problems with pistons as long as you keep the knock down and dont detenate

Babalouie · 03-25-2004, 11:13 PM

People that i have spoken to expect like 20hp from pistons!?!?!?!? what??????? I think not.

71Z28RS · 03-26-2004, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Babalouie
People that i have spoken to expect like 20hp from pistons!?!?!?!? what??????? I think not.

If it changes their compression to 12:1

(now you have to run octane booster and have the computer reprogrammed)

But since you have the whole thing taken apart anyway, you might as well bore it and stroke it too.

I agree with atc3434....if you want more power you can have head work done instead. That doesn't require a whole engine build either. Besides, if you're worried about strength, unless you're hooking up major power adders, our stock pistons are pretty sturdy.

Babalouie · 03-26-2004, 04:43 PM

word!

atc3434 · 03-30-2004, 06:48 AM

How did you punch a 3.4 out to a 3.7, Babalouie? I didn't think the block was thick enough? Very curious....

95-GT · 03-30-2004, 10:47 AM

He probley has shorter rods. Not just bored...but stroked also.

03-24-2004, 12:39 PM	#1
SpikeSpiegel1SC GAGT - Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Miami, Fl Age: 38 Posts: 69 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SE2	Performance Pistons Ive heard you can get performance or racing pistons for the engine and it will add alot of HP and last longer. Anybody know where I can get one of these for my 3400?

03-24-2004, 05:11 PM	#2
atc3434 Grand Am Again AKA: Andrew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auburn, NY Age: 38 Posts: 1,999 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE	Who ever told you that is not thinking much! As far as I know, there are no aftermarket pistons for the 3400 at this point, and even if there were, the power gains would not be substancial. The benifit would be strenght and less reciprocating mass. Perhaps a bit of compression could be added with different pistons, but headwork would be MUCH easier. __________________ 1999 Grand Am SE2 - Blue, TOG Headers, SLP Exhaust, DHP - SOLD 1996 Vert' Z-28 - M6, magnaflow muffler-back, K&N FIPK, Hurst Short-throw - 13.6 @ 103mph. 2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona - Go Mango Orange #2832 of 4000. Tune/exhaust. 14.009@97mph. 2002 Saab 9 5 Aero Wagon - 3" turboback/tune. 17psi of sleeper fun just waiting to surprise you.

03-24-2004, 05:28 PM	#3
ZakkWylde470 Tae Kwon Flow Master AKA: Marty Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wherever I May Roam Age: 37 Posts: 613 Vehicle: '99 Ram 1500 Sport 4x4	I'm sure if you threw down enough $$$$$ you could get a company to make custom pistons for just about anything. __________________ "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."

03-25-2004, 12:00 AM	#4
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03-25-2004, 05:33 PM	#11
Babalouie Unpredictable Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Age: 41 Posts: 222 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT Coupe	I have froged pistons, rods, etc. Pistons.....i repeat.........pistons do not give you power! They are there too hold the abuse that you are going to feed them. After you get a forged piston, get a forged set of rods. Now we aren't talking about $30 mods here. You are looking at an engine rebuild. __________________ - don't sing it...........just bring it - - RSM Race Motor = JE Custom Forged Pistons, Carillo Forged Racing Rods, Mantley SS Valves, Forged/Melinited/Nitrated Crank, RSM Racing Race Edition Heads, Copper Head Gaskets, MSD Ignition, RSM TB, RSM Ported Manifold, RSM Tranni Mount, RSM Torque Converter, ARP Studs, HnR Springs, KYB Struts, RSM Front/Rear Strut Braces, RSM Polly Urathane Bushings, Custom Exhaust, 3.7L, TOG Headers, RSM Vortec Supercharger Kit.

03-25-2004, 03:31 AM	#5
95-GT Slow 5.0 AKA: David Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Heights, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,365 Vehicle: 89 5.0 Mustang LX	About $500-$600.

03-25-2004, 06:34 AM	#6
SpikeSpiegel1SC GAGT - Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Miami, Fl Age: 38 Posts: 69 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SE2	Dam forget that than . Whats a good mod than? Other than the usual cold air and exhaust, no dont say NOS im not sticking that in my baby!

03-25-2004, 12:10 PM	#7
95-GT Slow 5.0 AKA: David Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Heights, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,365 Vehicle: 89 5.0 Mustang LX	Heads, Intakes, DHP, stickers, yellow stickers.

03-25-2004, 01:39 PM	#8
SpikeSpiegel1SC GAGT - Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Miami, Fl Age: 38 Posts: 69 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am SE2	what do you mean stickers and yellow stickers?

03-25-2004, 02:07 PM	#9
95-GT Slow 5.0 AKA: David Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Heights, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,365 Vehicle: 89 5.0 Mustang LX	stickers add power. yellow stickers add the most.

03-25-2004, 05:35 PM	#12
95-GT Slow 5.0 AKA: David Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Heights, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,365 Vehicle: 89 5.0 Mustang LX	pistons can add power!!! high c.r..

03-25-2004, 06:00 PM	#14
Dr_Kyle Better Than Ever AKA: Doctor Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 40 Posts: 2,116 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1	I was under the impression that our factory rods were pretty strong. Pistons could definitely use some improvements for higher power levels though. __________________ Looking for Performance Parts? Click Here to check out Doctor Speed! Best ET: 14.664 @ 94.82 MPH Doctor Speed - Grand Am Performance Parts My Cardomain Page

03-25-2004, 09:19 PM	#15
95-GT Slow 5.0 AKA: David Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Heights, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,365 Vehicle: 89 5.0 Mustang LX	Should have any problems with pistons as long as you keep the knock down and dont detenate

03-25-2004, 11:13 PM	#16
Babalouie Unpredictable Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Age: 41 Posts: 222 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT Coupe	People that i have spoken to expect like 20hp from pistons!?!?!?!? what??????? I think not. __________________ - don't sing it...........just bring it - - RSM Race Motor = JE Custom Forged Pistons, Carillo Forged Racing Rods, Mantley SS Valves, Forged/Melinited/Nitrated Crank, RSM Racing Race Edition Heads, Copper Head Gaskets, MSD Ignition, RSM TB, RSM Ported Manifold, RSM Tranni Mount, RSM Torque Converter, ARP Studs, HnR Springs, KYB Struts, RSM Front/Rear Strut Braces, RSM Polly Urathane Bushings, Custom Exhaust, 3.7L, TOG Headers, RSM Vortec Supercharger Kit.

03-26-2004, 04:43 PM	#18
Babalouie Unpredictable Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Age: 41 Posts: 222 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT Coupe	word! __________________ - don't sing it...........just bring it - - RSM Race Motor = JE Custom Forged Pistons, Carillo Forged Racing Rods, Mantley SS Valves, Forged/Melinited/Nitrated Crank, RSM Racing Race Edition Heads, Copper Head Gaskets, MSD Ignition, RSM TB, RSM Ported Manifold, RSM Tranni Mount, RSM Torque Converter, ARP Studs, HnR Springs, KYB Struts, RSM Front/Rear Strut Braces, RSM Polly Urathane Bushings, Custom Exhaust, 3.7L, TOG Headers, RSM Vortec Supercharger Kit.

03-30-2004, 06:48 AM	#19
atc3434 Grand Am Again AKA: Andrew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auburn, NY Age: 38 Posts: 1,999 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE	How did you punch a 3.4 out to a 3.7, Babalouie? I didn't think the block was thick enough? Very curious.... __________________ 1999 Grand Am SE2 - Blue, TOG Headers, SLP Exhaust, DHP - SOLD 1996 Vert' Z-28 - M6, magnaflow muffler-back, K&N FIPK, Hurst Short-throw - 13.6 @ 103mph. 2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona - Go Mango Orange #2832 of 4000. Tune/exhaust. 14.009@97mph. 2002 Saab 9 5 Aero Wagon - 3" turboback/tune. 17psi of sleeper fun just waiting to surprise you.

03-30-2004, 10:47 AM	#20
95-GT Slow 5.0 AKA: David Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Heights, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,365 Vehicle: 89 5.0 Mustang LX	He probley has shorter rods. Not just bored...but stroked also.

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