Installed CAI...BUT

michslpgt · 03-30-2004, 07:40 AM

Ok, so yesterday I installed my Dr. Speed CAI and Pro-M MAF on the new GT. After intallation, I started the car up and it was runnin a little rough at idle, which I expected because of the new sensor. So I get it the rest of the car together and take it down the road to test it out. I apply about mid throttle and first shift from 2-3 bangs really hard, so does every shift after that. Im now thinkin that the MAF is doing this, car is still learning. After about 4 miles I pull back in my driveway and let it idle, I hear this horrible sound coming from the engine bay. After openin the hood I determine that the sound is coming from the tranny. Its kind of a grinding, loose rattle. I Checked the tranny at the fill cap and it didnt smell burnt. Strange sound, no idiot lights. HMMM So I change MAF back to stock. Still does it. What happened? If it helps I was having the 1-2 sloppy shift prolly due to TPS or Pressure Control Selenoid. Thanks

Kdawg207 · 03-30-2004, 07:42 AM

did u reset .....unhook the batt

michslpgt · 03-30-2004, 07:44 AM

Yeah, I was thinking of that.

03-30-2004, 07:47 AM

I have heard from a few people including myself, that after hooking up the CAI, your tranny will behave differently until your car learns the new mods. So basically about a tank worth of gas, your car should behave normally.

Kdawg207 · 03-30-2004, 07:47 AM

did ya leave it unhooked for a good time...also....leave yur headlights turned on when you unhook the batt...this also I'm told helps kill the remaining juice for accessories...i dunno

that's what i was told...

action · 03-30-2004, 07:48 AM

Leave the battery disconnected for at least 1/2 hour to reset the computer.

Then again, it could just be coincidental. I've used a CAI in the summer months for the last 3 years with 0 problems. Never tried a new MAF, so I can't say for sure.

IF this doesn't work and you bring the car to the dealer for service (especially under warranty), replace the stock air box and MAF to save any possible hassle. Some dealers are a$$'s about aftermarket stuff.

michslpgt · 03-30-2004, 08:08 AM

I will give all this a shot when I get home today after work. If everything fails I guess I will reinstall stock and see if it still does it.

Sprucegagt · 03-30-2004, 10:10 AM

Also double check all of your electrical connections.

Slim · 03-30-2004, 10:36 AM

You don't even need to disconnect the battery. There's a fuse in the underhood box you can pull. I don't remember the number, but it's labelled ECM on the diagram on the underside of the cover. Has the same effect as pulling the battery and you don't have to reset your clock. (I know, I'm lazy.

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michslpgt · 03-31-2004, 05:20 AM

When I got home yesterday I checked the connections and hooked the batt back up. I think it sat for about 6 hrs unhooked. Took it for a drive, and after the tranny got warm it started the grinding loose rattle again. The shifts were still really hard, even when tranny was cold. I'm thinking, its just breaking in. This morning I come to work and it throws an SES light. Should I be worried, or is this somewhat normal? I have the worst luck with this stuff.

michslpgt · 03-31-2004, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by luniz
I have heard from a few people including myself, that after hooking up the CAI, your tranny will behave differently until your car learns the new mods. So basically about a tank worth of gas, your car should behave normally.

How differently?

Mike Jung · 03-31-2004, 10:23 AM

Get the OBD II code read off of the PCM.

I also think you should check the I.A.T. harness/sensor.

Having hard shifts like that can't be healthy.

michslpgt · 03-31-2004, 10:35 AM

I drove it to work today. I just take it really easy so it dont shift too hard. Its putting it in rev/drive from park that jolts so bad. Im going to Autozone today to see what the code is.

Mike Jung · 03-31-2004, 11:06 AM

Check out this thread:

Service Engine Soon Light with codes (Replace IAT Sensor Connector) #02-06-03-005

Dr_Kyle · 03-31-2004, 12:01 PM

^^ that's my guess.

michslpgt · 03-31-2004, 12:34 PM

Thanx guys. After checking out the threat Mike referred me to, it looks like that may be my problem.

schizm99 · 03-31-2004, 05:10 PM

I'm thinking a bearing hub...but let us know when ya get it fixxed..

michslpgt · 04-01-2004, 06:43 AM

Went to Autozone after work yesterday pulled the IAT code, paid 9.00 for new sensor. Works great now. Dont know why the old sensor went out when I changed to the CAI. Works like a charm now! The tranny noise went away and im back to smooth shifts. Thanks for the replies.

action · 04-01-2004, 08:08 AM

Just lucky I guess!!!

That stuff happens all the time.

AznGA · 04-06-2004, 01:01 PM

New IAT sensor is only $9?

03-30-2004, 07:40 AM	#1
michslpgt I love 4x4's AKA: E Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 253 Vehicle: '03 Dakota 4.7L 4x4	Installed CAI...BUT Ok, so yesterday I installed my Dr. Speed CAI and Pro-M MAF on the new GT. After intallation, I started the car up and it was runnin a little rough at idle, which I expected because of the new sensor. So I get it the rest of the car together and take it down the road to test it out. I apply about mid throttle and first shift from 2-3 bangs really hard, so does every shift after that. Im now thinkin that the MAF is doing this, car is still learning. After about 4 miles I pull back in my driveway and let it idle, I hear this horrible sound coming from the engine bay. After openin the hood I determine that the sound is coming from the tranny. Its kind of a grinding, loose rattle. I Checked the tranny at the fill cap and it didnt smell burnt. Strange sound, no idiot lights. HMMM So I change MAF back to stock. Still does it. What happened? If it helps I was having the 1-2 sloppy shift prolly due to TPS or Pressure Control Selenoid. Thanks __________________ July 2005 grandamgt.com Calendar Car! My Album 2008 Dodge Dakota SLT 4x4 1978 Ford F150 Custom 4x4 Last edited by michslpgt; 03-30-2004 at 07:46 AM.

03-30-2004, 07:44 AM	#3
michslpgt I love 4x4's AKA: E Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 253 Vehicle: '03 Dakota 4.7L 4x4	Yeah, I was thinking of that. __________________ July 2005 grandamgt.com Calendar Car! My Album 2008 Dodge Dakota SLT 4x4 1978 Ford F150 Custom 4x4

03-30-2004, 08:08 AM	#7
michslpgt I love 4x4's AKA: E Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 253 Vehicle: '03 Dakota 4.7L 4x4	I will give all this a shot when I get home today after work. If everything fails I guess I will reinstall stock and see if it still does it. __________________ July 2005 grandamgt.com Calendar Car! My Album 2008 Dodge Dakota SLT 4x4 1978 Ford F150 Custom 4x4

03-30-2004, 10:10 AM	#8
Sprucegagt Schwartz Power! AKA: Andy Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ranson, WV Age: 46 Posts: 2,027 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT	Also double check all of your electrical connections. __________________ 2000 Grand Am GT (some day it will be SC/T) Mods: alot

03-30-2004, 10:36 AM	#9
Slim Captain Canuck AKA: Matt Join Date: Mar 1977 Location: Burlington, Ontario Age: 44 Posts: 3,593 Vehicle: 08 Acadia, 13 Mazda 6	You don't even need to disconnect the battery. There's a fuse in the underhood box you can pull. I don't remember the number, but it's labelled ECM on the diagram on the underside of the cover. Has the same effect as pulling the battery and you don't have to reset your clock. (I know, I'm lazy. ). __________________ Canadian to the core!

03-30-2004, 07:47 AM	#4
luniz Guest Posts: n/a	I have heard from a few people including myself, that after hooking up the CAI, your tranny will behave differently until your car learns the new mods. So basically about a tank worth of gas, your car should behave normally.

03-30-2004, 07:48 AM	#6
action GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland Age: 43 Posts: 656 Vehicle: 2000 GA SE V6	Leave the battery disconnected for at least 1/2 hour to reset the computer. Then again, it could just be coincidental. I've used a CAI in the summer months for the last 3 years with 0 problems. Never tried a new MAF, so I can't say for sure. IF this doesn't work and you bring the car to the dealer for service (especially under warranty), replace the stock air box and MAF to save any possible hassle. Some dealers are a$$'s about aftermarket stuff.

03-31-2004, 05:20 AM	#10
michslpgt I love 4x4's AKA: E Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 253 Vehicle: '03 Dakota 4.7L 4x4	When I got home yesterday I checked the connections and hooked the batt back up. I think it sat for about 6 hrs unhooked. Took it for a drive, and after the tranny got warm it started the grinding loose rattle again. The shifts were still really hard, even when tranny was cold. I'm thinking, its just breaking in. This morning I come to work and it throws an SES light. Should I be worried, or is this somewhat normal? I have the worst luck with this stuff. __________________ July 2005 grandamgt.com Calendar Car! My Album 2008 Dodge Dakota SLT 4x4 1978 Ford F150 Custom 4x4

03-31-2004, 10:23 AM	#12
Mike Jung 400 hp & 410 lb-ft AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,671 Vehicle: '14 Camaro SS RS coupe	Get the OBD II code read off of the PCM. I also think you should check the I.A.T. harness/sensor. Having hard shifts like that can't be healthy.

03-31-2004, 10:35 AM	#13
michslpgt I love 4x4's AKA: E Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 253 Vehicle: '03 Dakota 4.7L 4x4	I drove it to work today. I just take it really easy so it dont shift too hard. Its putting it in rev/drive from park that jolts so bad. Im going to Autozone today to see what the code is. __________________ July 2005 grandamgt.com Calendar Car! My Album 2008 Dodge Dakota SLT 4x4 1978 Ford F150 Custom 4x4

03-31-2004, 11:06 AM	#14
Mike Jung 400 hp & 410 lb-ft AKA: Mike Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,671 Vehicle: '14 Camaro SS RS coupe	Check out this thread: Service Engine Soon Light with codes (Replace IAT Sensor Connector) #02-06-03-005

03-31-2004, 12:01 PM	#15
Dr_Kyle Better Than Ever AKA: Doctor Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 40 Posts: 2,116 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1	^^ that's my guess. __________________ Looking for Performance Parts? Click Here to check out Doctor Speed! Best ET: 14.664 @ 94.82 MPH Doctor Speed - Grand Am Performance Parts My Cardomain Page

03-31-2004, 12:34 PM	#16
michslpgt I love 4x4's AKA: E Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 253 Vehicle: '03 Dakota 4.7L 4x4	Thanx guys. After checking out the threat Mike referred me to, it looks like that may be my problem. __________________ July 2005 grandamgt.com Calendar Car! My Album 2008 Dodge Dakota SLT 4x4 1978 Ford F150 Custom 4x4

03-31-2004, 05:10 PM	#17
schizm99 GAGT - Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Maine Age: 50 Posts: 279 Vehicle: 2000 GAGT	I'm thinking a bearing hub...but let us know when ya get it fixxed.. __________________ Hippies, hippies all around me! They pretend they wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad!!

04-01-2004, 06:43 AM	#18
michslpgt I love 4x4's AKA: E Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 253 Vehicle: '03 Dakota 4.7L 4x4	Went to Autozone after work yesterday pulled the IAT code, paid 9.00 for new sensor. Works great now. Dont know why the old sensor went out when I changed to the CAI. Works like a charm now! The tranny noise went away and im back to smooth shifts. Thanks for the replies. __________________ July 2005 grandamgt.com Calendar Car! My Album 2008 Dodge Dakota SLT 4x4 1978 Ford F150 Custom 4x4

04-01-2004, 08:08 AM	#19
action GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland Age: 43 Posts: 656 Vehicle: 2000 GA SE V6	Just lucky I guess!!! That stuff happens all the time.

04-06-2004, 01:01 PM	#20
AznGA GAGT - Junkie AKA: YJ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 4,440 Vehicle: GAGT	New IAT sensor is only $9?

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