considering getting a grand am want a 14 sec car though...

will_p · 02-04-2005, 11:36 AM

I am considering getting a newer 99+ grand am. My fiance has one and i like the way they look but as with any car I own I will want to mod it... I don't know if anyone else has read the article in High Performance Pontiac, but they say that with cold air intake, SLP exhaust and minimal weight reduction they ran 15.0 flat on a good day in the high 50's I was thinking that with those same mods and and underdrive pulley and more weight reduction I could have a car that can (theoritically) run in the 14's but after searching around on the forum it doesn't seem to be the case... anyhoo, I'm not gonna spend upwards of $10,000 on a car and mods if I can't get in into the 14's, I'll just keep modding fieros (no bashing) and have a car that will get there for 1/3 to 1/4 the cost... any info is appricieated, as I would really like to have a newer car to work on and I am somewhat familiar with the 60 degree v6 engines... thanks again

Will

pontga00 · 02-04-2005, 11:46 AM

There are quite a few members on here who have their GA's well into the 14's without $10,000 worth of mods. I'm sure they'll chime in soon enough.

Crisco · 02-04-2005, 11:46 AM

i ran a 15.6 all stock, early last summer

with a few mods I could probably hit 14s

H.O. Driver · 02-04-2005, 11:50 AM

There is a lot of GA that have gone 15.3 stock. If you get CAI, Headers, Exhuast, and a PCM 14s are attainable. You will have a better shot with some heads and ported UIM/LIM since the top end on the GA sucks because of valve float.

With some weight reduction it helps quite a bit, if you have leather, and a sunroof the car will weigh more than if it didn't. I ran a good 300lbs heavier than a some other peeps here *Joe*cough

If you can get the vehicle weight down to 3000 lbs with you in it, it will be slightly quicker than most

AMRAAM4 · 02-04-2005, 11:52 AM

14s isn't really that fast. 14 flat, yes, 14.6-14.9, no.

H.O. Driver · 02-04-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AMRAAM4

14s isn't really that fast. 14 flat, yes, 14.6-14.9, no.

^^^ The man has a point, but if you want it into the 14s regaurdless if its high or low 14s you don't have to use forced induction or spend a ton of money.

2kramairGT · 02-04-2005, 12:02 PM

I dont think he meant spend $10,000 on mods, he meant ten grand on a car and mods total to run 14s.

pontga00 · 02-04-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 2kramairGT

I dont think he meant spend $10,000 on mods, he meant ten grand on a car and mods total to run 14s.

Ahh yup, I just reread his post...can still get into the 14's though without a crazy amount of money invested.

H.O. Driver · 02-04-2005, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 2kramairGT

I dont think he meant spend $10,000 on mods, he meant ten grand on a car and mods total to run 14s.

You can pick up a low mileage 99 (for the age, 75k is low mileage) for 6k and that leaves you 4k to play with on it

atc3434 · 02-04-2005, 12:09 PM

Yea, like somebody else said, headers ($900 by the time you install them w/ downpipe and highflow cat), SLP exhaust ($450 shipped, or less), CAI ($150), and a DHP PCM ($215) and you should see under 15.0 on most GA's. So for around $1700 you should be able to hit in the 14's. Like somebody else said, head work goes a long way with the other mods listed. So you find a GA with 50k on it for $6,000 and you've got plenty of money to do all kinds of work and be in the mid 14's.

atc3434 · 02-04-2005, 12:10 PM

Funny, H.O. Driver, we both called for a used GA at $6000 and $4000 for mods...

AznGA · 02-04-2005, 12:15 PM

If you really don't care for looks you might want to get a 97-03 used Grand Prix GTP to hit 14's or faster. My friend ran 14.8 with just an intake. But I think a lot of people here will agree with you that Grand AM is a better looking car.

FORTEEN3GT · 02-04-2005, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will_p

I am considering getting a newer 99+ grand am. My fiance has one and i like the way they look but as with any car I own I will want to mod it... I don't know if anyone else has read the article in High Performance Pontiac, but they say that with cold air intake, SLP exhaust and minimal weight reduction they ran 15.0 flat on a good day in the high 50's I was thinking that with those same mods and and underdrive pulley and more weight reduction I could have a car that can (theoritically) run in the 14's but after searching around on the forum it doesn't seem to be the case... anyhoo, I'm not gonna spend upwards of $10,000 on a car and mods if I can't get in into the 14's, I'll just keep modding fieros (no bashing) and have a car that will get there for 1/3 to 1/4 the cost... any info is appricieated, as I would really like to have a newer car to work on and I am somewhat familiar with the 60 degree v6 engines... thanks again

Will

buy a GTP! nough said!

I have a mid-high 14 second Grand Am.... and a stock GTP.

this GTP is looking nicer everyday!

he GTP has much better low end than the GAGT... but the GAGT is better up top.... thanks to tons of money in mods!

next week the GTP will be running circles around the GAGT... and for only 1k in mods!

DaytonaPrixMI · 02-04-2005, 12:43 PM

Buy a GTP, you can go faster cheaper, and its not bad looking!

H.O. Driver · 02-04-2005, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atc3434

Funny, H.O. Driver, we both called for a used GA at $6000 and $4000 for mods...

Yea, I kick myself in the ass everytime I think that I bought my GA for 10k back in 2002

FORTEEN3GT · 02-04-2005, 12:53 PM

dont get me wrong... a GAGT with boost... now that is totally different story! much better than a GTP in my opinion... looks and power!

Buy a GTP or Buy a GAGT and supercharge it!

GAGTSCTGuy · 02-04-2005, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FORTEEN3GT

Buy a GAGT and supercharge it!

This is my plan, alot of people don't expect that from the GAGT

Gold99HO · 02-04-2005, 02:23 PM

i say find a 99 GA, DHP, intake, exhaust and SLP will get you high 14's easy

i ran 15.115 with just SLP

atc3434 · 02-04-2005, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gold99HO

i say find a 99 GA, DHP, intake, exhaust and SLP will get you high 14's easy

i ran 15.115 with just SLP

Yea, factory freak! Headers are needed to get most N-bodies into 14's all motor.

H.O. Driver · 02-04-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by atc3434

Yea, factory freak! Headers are needed to get most N-bodies into 14's all motor.

With him in the hot seat his car tips the scales at ~2900lbs, I weigh the same as him and my car weighs in at 3300lbs

02-04-2005, 11:36 AM	#1
will_p GAGT - Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Joseph MO Age: 38 Posts: 48 Vehicle: not yet	considering getting a grand am want a 14 sec car though... I am considering getting a newer 99+ grand am. My fiance has one and i like the way they look but as with any car I own I will want to mod it... I don't know if anyone else has read the article in High Performance Pontiac, but they say that with cold air intake, SLP exhaust and minimal weight reduction they ran 15.0 flat on a good day in the high 50's I was thinking that with those same mods and and underdrive pulley and more weight reduction I could have a car that can (theoritically) run in the 14's but after searching around on the forum it doesn't seem to be the case... anyhoo, I'm not gonna spend upwards of $10,000 on a car and mods if I can't get in into the 14's, I'll just keep modding fieros (no bashing) and have a car that will get there for 1/3 to 1/4 the cost... any info is appricieated, as I would really like to have a newer car to work on and I am somewhat familiar with the 60 degree v6 engines... thanks again Will

02-04-2005, 11:46 AM	#3
Crisco ROCK ON! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 37 Posts: 209 Vehicle: 01 GT coupe	i ran a 15.6 all stock, early last summer with a few mods I could probably hit 14s __________________ If guns kill people, then I can blame mis-spelled words on my pencil 15.6@86mph - stock

02-04-2005, 11:50 AM	#4
H.O. Driver I drive a V6 H.O. AKA: Timmah! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boyne City, MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,694 Vehicle: 99 GT, 03 DTS, 04 SRX	There is a lot of GA that have gone 15.3 stock. If you get CAI, Headers, Exhuast, and a PCM 14s are attainable. You will have a better shot with some heads and ported UIM/LIM since the top end on the GA sucks because of valve float. With some weight reduction it helps quite a bit, if you have leather, and a sunroof the car will weigh more than if it didn't. I ran a good 300lbs heavier than a some other peeps here Joecough If you can get the vehicle weight down to 3000 lbs with you in it, it will be slightly quicker than most __________________ 1999 GA GT - lots of mods - Sold and missing it... 2001 GP GTP Special Edtion - Sold 2002 T/A - T-Tops, AT, LS6 intake, mainly stock - Sold 2003 Cadillac DTS - Gangsta Grandpa car - Gone 2004 Cadillac SRX - Baby hauler -Sold and missing it Life is too short to drive boring cars....why is that all I have now?????? Last edited by H.O. Driver; 02-04-2005 at 11:54 AM.

02-04-2005, 11:52 AM	#5
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	14s isn't really that fast. 14 flat, yes, 14.6-14.9, no. __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

02-04-2005, 12:09 PM	#10
atc3434 Grand Am Again AKA: Andrew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auburn, NY Age: 38 Posts: 1,999 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE	Yea, like somebody else said, headers ($900 by the time you install them w/ downpipe and highflow cat), SLP exhaust ($450 shipped, or less), CAI ($150), and a DHP PCM ($215) and you should see under 15.0 on most GA's. So for around $1700 you should be able to hit in the 14's. Like somebody else said, head work goes a long way with the other mods listed. So you find a GA with 50k on it for $6,000 and you've got plenty of money to do all kinds of work and be in the mid 14's. __________________ 1999 Grand Am SE2 - Blue, TOG Headers, SLP Exhaust, DHP - SOLD 1996 Vert' Z-28 - M6, magnaflow muffler-back, K&N FIPK, Hurst Short-throw - 13.6 @ 103mph. 2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona - Go Mango Orange #2832 of 4000. Tune/exhaust. 14.009@97mph. 2002 Saab 9 5 Aero Wagon - 3" turboback/tune. 17psi of sleeper fun just waiting to surprise you.

02-04-2005, 11:46 AM	#2
pontga00 StreeTTrendZ AKA: Jeff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Boston, MA Age: 40 Posts: 935 Vehicle: 2000 GAGT1 Coupe	There are quite a few members on here who have their GA's well into the 14's without $10,000 worth of mods. I'm sure they'll chime in soon enough.

02-04-2005, 12:02 PM	#7
2kramairGT GAGT - Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 39 Posts: 233 Vehicle: 2000 GaGT Coupe	I dont think he meant spend $10,000 on mods, he meant ten grand on a car and mods total to run 14s.

02-04-2005, 12:10 PM	#11
atc3434 Grand Am Again AKA: Andrew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auburn, NY Age: 38 Posts: 1,999 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE	Funny, H.O. Driver, we both called for a used GA at $6000 and $4000 for mods... __________________ 1999 Grand Am SE2 - Blue, TOG Headers, SLP Exhaust, DHP - SOLD 1996 Vert' Z-28 - M6, magnaflow muffler-back, K&N FIPK, Hurst Short-throw - 13.6 @ 103mph. 2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona - Go Mango Orange #2832 of 4000. Tune/exhaust. 14.009@97mph. 2002 Saab 9 5 Aero Wagon - 3" turboback/tune. 17psi of sleeper fun just waiting to surprise you.

02-04-2005, 12:15 PM	#12
AznGA GAGT - Junkie AKA: YJ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 4,440 Vehicle: GAGT	If you really don't care for looks you might want to get a 97-03 used Grand Prix GTP to hit 14's or faster. My friend ran 14.8 with just an intake. But I think a lot of people here will agree with you that Grand AM is a better looking car.

02-04-2005, 12:43 PM	#14
DaytonaPrixMI Those are bright! AKA: Ryan Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rochester, MI Age: 38 Posts: 93 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Prix GTP	Buy a GTP, you can go faster cheaper, and its not bad looking! __________________ 2000 GTP Daytona 500 12.814 @ 104.65 1.825 60'

02-04-2005, 12:53 PM	#16
FORTEEN3GT Texas's fastest GAGT AKA: Mike Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: by Dallas, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,871 Vehicle: 2001 GTP; 2000 WS6	dont get me wrong... a GAGT with boost... now that is totally different story! much better than a GTP in my opinion... looks and power! Buy a GTP or Buy a GAGT and supercharge it! __________________ 9.42 1/8th Mile ET All-Motor! SOLD MODDED 1999 GAGT 2000 TRANS-AM WS6 M6 converted to TH400: 408, LS3 Heads,, True Duals, MTI Lid, Moser 9" rearend, Gemini 300 plate kit (800+rwhp of fun! 2001 GTP: PCM, 3.2 Pulley, VS Cam, 3 inch Downpipe/Exhaust, PEMs, U-bend, No-Cat, SLP Intake, and PowerTuner

02-04-2005, 02:23 PM	#18
Gold99HO Father&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;Son AKA: Joey Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 672 Vehicle: 2002 Ford Focus MK1	i say find a 99 GA, DHP, intake, exhaust and SLP will get you high 14's easy i ran 15.115 with just SLP __________________ Ion Redline 2004 12.6@115MPH (SOLD) 2010 Ford Fusion Sport FWD 13.6@102 steeda power pack. MRT catback 2008 yamaha R6 10.2@136MPH (totaled)

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