"Sales of Grand Am Replacement 'Awful' "

Nikki · 03-22-2005, 06:59 AM

Came across this in the local news....thought I'd post it here

http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/...e_20050322.htm

Braves299 · 03-22-2005, 07:15 AM

That sucks. I know where this thread is headed

onesexyga · 03-22-2005, 07:15 AM

If GM is selling half as many G6's as they did grand ams id say theyre doing allright. Keep in mind it is a new car, and the Grand Am is still around too. Also the coupe is not out yet, and neither is a bigger engine option. They sold a lot more Grand Am sedans because they looked decent, and were still practical. I think because the G6's styling is more subtle, people will have to go for the 2 door to get the nicer styling. Regardless, i think we need more than 6 months to really know whats going to happen.

AMRAAM4 · 03-22-2005, 07:18 AM

Gee, kinda funny we were all saying this about the car....but one specific engineer here always wants to reply with the notion that we (forum members) don't know what we are talking about, are immature, are "Debbie Downers", etc. etc.

That type of personality is one of the main reasons why GM is about to go in the tank

AHHH YESSSS....More great ignorance and attempt to not face reality by GM:

Quote:

GM's Steilen said he is frustrated with such opinions.

He defended the car's performance, saying that it takes about a year for a vehicle with such high volume projections to ramp up, and he noted that most of the G6 variations, such as the four-cylinder version and convertible, aren't even on the market yet.

"To me, it's anything but a disappointment," he said of the G6's performance.

SC/TGrandAm · 03-22-2005, 07:18 AM

GEE, that doesn't suprise me one bit. GM (thumbs down)

GregFarz78 · 03-22-2005, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMRAAM4

Gee, kinda funny we were all saying this about the car....but one specific engineer here always wants to reply with the notion that we (forum members) don't know what we are talking about, are immature, are "Debbie Downers", etc. etc.

or even negatives Nikki's

Nikki · 03-22-2005, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregFarz78

or even negatives Nikki's

Funny you say that, becuz I've been told I'm extremely negative...but that way I never get disappointed

haha.

As for the article...I wasn't posting it to start anything, just thought it was interesting. I personally see these cars EVERYWHERE I go, then again I'm in Detroit...where every other person has either a Grand Am or a Grand Prix

SC/TGrandAm · 03-22-2005, 07:51 AM

I rarely see a G6 around here, I think on the road not counting dealers ive seen 5?

Everybody Ive talked to thinks they are ugly, overpriced.... I tend to agree. Once again GM needs to listen to the advice of the buyers of these hunks of junk instead of building them and finding out that was a mistake and making up excuses. Afterall, we might have some good input.

AMRAAM4 · 03-22-2005, 08:07 AM

....but.....but.....but...."it gets 32mpg compared to any other V6 in its class"

GrahamKracka · 03-22-2005, 08:15 AM

...like i said.....its a piece of ****

Braves299 · 03-22-2005, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrahamKracka

...like i said.....its a piece of ****

You said it'd be a good deal if it were cheaper.

action · 03-22-2005, 08:31 AM

I really thought I'd like the G6 more when I seen it in person, but unfortunantly I dont. I cant see past the horrible side profile, I cant pinpoint where it goes wrong, I just dont like it.

I also dont like the fact that the current car only has 200hp, and the most powerful engine will only do 240hp, and still probably have a stupid speed limiter.

After replacing the power steering pump for the 3rd time now on the GA (due to very poor engineering by GM) dealing with noisy poor brakes and the worst front wheel bearing design ever, I'll be hard pressed to say that the G6 is much better engineered then its competition.

There are so many cars on the shopping list for my next purchase, I think the G6 has slid nearer the bottom of the list.

I'm also not getting into the whole GM dying bit either, they are big and I'm sure they'll stay that way, someone will buy their cars, just not me. They know the truck business, and I cant wait to see the next line of trucks.

Vintalage · 03-22-2005, 09:32 AM

Yep, I was one of those negative folks. And my words turn out to be true. Out of two months, I've seen only one G6 on the road. And that was yesterday. The last time I saw one was in January in New York.

The car is lacking. I have no interest whatsoever. And appearantly, so do many others. $27k for a "loaded" G6? Muahahahaha!!!

GrahamKracka · 03-22-2005, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braves299

You said it'd be a good deal if it were cheaper.

which is why it should be cheaper..it wouldnt be so bad then....still ugly as sin

GregFarz78 · 03-22-2005, 09:48 AM

yea I'm sorry but whoever pays over 23k for a g6 gt is an idiot theres much better out there for the same price. Cant wait to see the price of the g6 gtp I'm guessing 28-30k...yea that will sell well. Wait a year and pick up a g6 gt used for 14-15k then its a decent deal.

GAGTSCTGuy · 03-22-2005, 09:53 AM

G6GTP will probably cost 7-10K more than a SRT-4 which will smoke it in the performance category....

I hate the G6, I have seen 2 of them on the road, and alot at dealers (obviously they are not selling, just as I predicted) They are ugly, slow, and still crappy new GM quality, everyone says, The GA needed to be refined or whatever, but hands down 99+ GA still looks 1000x better than the G6, inside and out

sprague67 · 03-22-2005, 11:45 AM

Can't wait for the G6 convertible to come out, that thing is gonna be badass! http://www.theautochannel.com/N/news...06/000215.html

AMRAAM4 · 03-22-2005, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprague67

Can't wait for the G6 convertible to come out, that thing is gonna be badass! http://www.theautochannel.com/N/news...06/000215.html

sure it will

If that is "badass" to you, then you don't appreciate cars too much.

GrahamKracka · 03-22-2005, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAGTSCTGuy

G6GTP will probably cost 7-10K more than a SRT-4 which will smoke it in the performance category....

I hate the G6, I have seen 2 of them on the road, and alot at dealers (obviously they are not selling, just as I predicted) They are ugly, slow, and still crappy new GM quality, everyone says, The GA needed to be refined or whatever, but hands down 99+ GA still looks 1000x better than the G6, inside and out

the altima SER is a better deal at that price

GrahamKracka · 03-22-2005, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprague67

Can't wait for the G6 convertible to come out, that thing is gonna be badass! http://www.theautochannel.com/N/news...06/000215.html

no....no its not

03-22-2005, 06:59 AM	#1
Nikki 6 speed sickness. AKA: ~Nikki~ Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Age: 43 Posts: 1,892 Vehicle: '06 G6 GTP Sedan	"Sales of Grand Am Replacement 'Awful' " Came across this in the local news....thought I'd post it here http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/...e_20050322.htm __________________ ::Redline Motorsport Member:: *Goodbye Accord & Talon...Hello G6 GTP 6MT*

03-22-2005, 07:15 AM	#2
Braves299 WVU owns you AKA: David Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Derwood, Maryland Age: 36 Posts: 2,170 Vehicle: '99 GA SE 3.4, '06 Ram	That sucks. I know where this thread is headed __________________ Carl Lee Combs July 8, 1944 - February 20, 2002 "Gone for now, never forgotten"

03-22-2005, 07:18 AM	#5
SC/TGrandAm Newbie AKA: Kyle Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI Age: 39 Posts: 2,944 Vehicle: 2008 Accord	GEE, that doesn't suprise me one bit. GM (thumbs down) __________________ 2008 Accord EX-L Coupe 2002 GA SCT- R.I.P HID Pioneer http://www.myspace.com/Kleigou

03-22-2005, 07:51 AM	#8
SC/TGrandAm Newbie AKA: Kyle Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI Age: 39 Posts: 2,944 Vehicle: 2008 Accord	I rarely see a G6 around here, I think on the road not counting dealers ive seen 5? Everybody Ive talked to thinks they are ugly, overpriced.... I tend to agree. Once again GM needs to listen to the advice of the buyers of these hunks of junk instead of building them and finding out that was a mistake and making up excuses. Afterall, we might have some good input. __________________ 2008 Accord EX-L Coupe 2002 GA SCT- R.I.P HID Pioneer http://www.myspace.com/Kleigou

03-22-2005, 08:07 AM	#9
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	....but.....but.....but...."it gets 32mpg compared to any other V6 in its class" __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

03-22-2005, 07:15 AM	#3
onesexyga onesexyfiero AKA: Kevin Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vermont/New Hampshire Age: 35 Posts: 1,534 Vehicle: 00 GAGT, 88 Fiero GT	If GM is selling half as many G6's as they did grand ams id say theyre doing allright. Keep in mind it is a new car, and the Grand Am is still around too. Also the coupe is not out yet, and neither is a bigger engine option. They sold a lot more Grand Am sedans because they looked decent, and were still practical. I think because the G6's styling is more subtle, people will have to go for the 2 door to get the nicer styling. Regardless, i think we need more than 6 months to really know whats going to happen.

03-22-2005, 08:15 AM	#10
GrahamKracka WannaBe Fat Kid AKA: Richard Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Antonio, Texas Age: 36 Posts: 1,517 Vehicle: 2005 Nissan Titan	...like i said.....its a piece of ****

03-22-2005, 08:31 AM	#12
action GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland Age: 43 Posts: 656 Vehicle: 2000 GA SE V6	I really thought I'd like the G6 more when I seen it in person, but unfortunantly I dont. I cant see past the horrible side profile, I cant pinpoint where it goes wrong, I just dont like it. I also dont like the fact that the current car only has 200hp, and the most powerful engine will only do 240hp, and still probably have a stupid speed limiter. After replacing the power steering pump for the 3rd time now on the GA (due to very poor engineering by GM) dealing with noisy poor brakes and the worst front wheel bearing design ever, I'll be hard pressed to say that the G6 is much better engineered then its competition. There are so many cars on the shopping list for my next purchase, I think the G6 has slid nearer the bottom of the list. I'm also not getting into the whole GM dying bit either, they are big and I'm sure they'll stay that way, someone will buy their cars, just not me. They know the truck business, and I cant wait to see the next line of trucks.

03-22-2005, 09:32 AM	#13
Vintalage Hey paisanos! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 5,490 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT1	Yep, I was one of those negative folks. And my words turn out to be true. Out of two months, I've seen only one G6 on the road. And that was yesterday. The last time I saw one was in January in New York. The car is lacking. I have no interest whatsoever. And appearantly, so do many others. $27k for a "loaded" G6? Muahahahaha!!! __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT1 Sedan - Black 7000K HID PICS [SOLD to Jscarano]

03-22-2005, 09:48 AM	#15
GregFarz78 GAGT - Junkie AKA: See Above Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Philly, PA Age: 43 Posts: 4,413 Vehicle: 04 Honda S2000	yea I'm sorry but whoever pays over 23k for a g6 gt is an idiot theres much better out there for the same price. Cant wait to see the price of the g6 gtp I'm guessing 28-30k...yea that will sell well. Wait a year and pick up a g6 gt used for 14-15k then its a decent deal. __________________ My Pics

03-22-2005, 09:53 AM	#16
GAGTSCTGuy GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Phil Join Date: May 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,034 Vehicle: 04 GAGT SCT,99 Formula	G6GTP will probably cost 7-10K more than a SRT-4 which will smoke it in the performance category.... I hate the G6, I have seen 2 of them on the road, and alot at dealers (obviously they are not selling, just as I predicted) They are ugly, slow, and still crappy new GM quality, everyone says, The GA needed to be refined or whatever, but hands down 99+ GA still looks 1000x better than the G6, inside and out __________________ 2004 Grand Am GT SC/T --- Daily driver 1999 Firebird Formula --- Weekend toy 1998 Sunfire SE --- Wife's car N-Body

03-22-2005, 11:45 AM	#17
sprague67 2000 GT1 AKA: Todd Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa Age: 37 Posts: 243 Vehicle: 2000 GT1 Coupe	Can't wait for the G6 convertible to come out, that thing is gonna be badass! http://www.theautochannel.com/N/news...06/000215.html __________________ Enlightenment is man's release from his self-incurred tutelage. Tutelage is man's inability to make use of his understanding without direction from another. Self-incurred is this tutelage when its cause lies not in lack of reason but in lack of resolution and courage to use it without direction from another. Have courage to use your own reason! - that is the motto of enlightenment. --Immanuel Kant 1784

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