Freshly Zaino'd!

04-02-2005, 08:10 AM

Hey Guys Just Freshly Zaino'd! These Are The Steps I Used And Here Are A Few Pictures Enjoy! Oh And My New Calips And Rotors Are On Too!

1) Wash Car With Dawn Dish Soap to remove wax, to wash the car you know wet it down wash it etc...BUT leave wet!

2) Buy a Mothers Clay Bar package...got mine at meijer for like 20 bucks comes with cleaner and clay bar, and sample carabuna base wax

3) Spray clay bar cleaner on area about to clay bar, then go back and forth with the clay bar youll hear a cratching noise then once the scratching noise is gone you will know its smooth youll know what I mean while you are doing it

4) Now your car prolly looks like **** with this cleaner and clay bar residue.....wash your car with car wash soap, I concentrated it pretty heavy, then dry car, and apply carabuna base wax, with buffer, then remove with polishing cloth

5) Now your cars lookin good, Next I applied Zaino Z2....I'm pretty sure it was Z2 its like pink, apply on car with buffer with new pad of course, after thats all buffed in, remove with another...new polishing cloth now your car looks and feels like glass shouldnt feel any paint imperfections or see any in the car at any angle or any spot

6) Apply RainX to all the windows and never use wipers again! Enjoy! Any Questions Just Ask!

Hodge · 04-02-2005, 09:22 AM

looks cute

coupe · 04-02-2005, 09:25 AM

I never leave my car wet when i clay bar.

JHawk GT · 04-02-2005, 09:42 AM

You applied wax before Z2? How's Z2 supposed to bond with the paint? I know people sometimes apply a quality wax, like P21S, after Zaino or some other sealant like Klasse AIO or Blackfire, but never before a sealant.

SC/TGrandAm · 04-02-2005, 09:50 AM

You have to use Z1 polish lok before you put down Z2 or you can use ZFX and mix it with the Z2. You have to use one or the other or your wax is going to wear off in a week not to mention the results are going to suck.

You use a claybar when the car is wet (I do it when there is soap on the car as well for lubrication otherwise your going to **** up your paint) and you shouldnt hear scratching noises..... Scratching noises on your paint = bad.

04-02-2005, 10:02 AM

OMFG Sorry Mr. Know It All BAHAHAH OK So goes like this, you use the lubricant stuff while you clay bar while your car is wet id never directly use a claybar on a dry car, ok then next, I was told by the guy on the phone at Zaino when i ordered all my ****, to use a carabuna base wax then try this Z2 stuff so I'm like ok so thats what I did, and the scratching noise is the claybar working all the crap from winter out of your car like salt and all that stuff, then it stops "scratching" and its smooth....the claybars done its job, well just look at the results very quality so I've got no complaints

Braves299 · 04-02-2005, 01:13 PM

looks good. Do you have the vinyl from grafxwerks to cover up your door chrome? If so, was it easy to put on? I may consider doing that....

Panacea · 04-02-2005, 01:24 PM

Few things I've noticed over the years of using claybar, and zaino.

Never leave the car wet when you are using the claybar. Dry it off first. Then, when you are ready to claybar, use a lubricant and spray the area you are going to work with. If you have the car sopping wet the claybar gets really moist and feels like silly putty. This is bad. Why ? Because it is too soft to pick up any of the grime in the paint.

As for applying wax before Zaino... Whomever you talked to is full of sh!t. Did you call ZAINO themselves or did you call one of the online distributors? Why do you think Sal recommends using dawn dish soap to remove the previous wax first?!?!?! If zaino was meant to be applied over wax they wouldn't recommend stripping the old wax off first...

If you don't believe me, write an E-MAIL to SAL ZAINO (you can get the e-mail off the zainobros.com site). He always responds, and if what you said is true, I'm sure he'll fire that dumb SOB.

EDIT: Application Instructions..

GaRedCoupe · 04-02-2005, 01:25 PM

Dude those wheels are SWEET.

SC/TGrandAm · 04-02-2005, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guga2495

OMFG Sorry Mr. Know It All BAHAHAH OK So goes like this, you use the lubricant stuff while you clay bar while your car is wet id never directly use a claybar on a dry car, ok then next, I was told by the guy on the phone at Zaino when i ordered all my ****, to use a carabuna base wax then try this Z2 stuff so I'm like ok so thats what I did, and the scratching noise is the claybar working all the crap from winter out of your car like salt and all that stuff, then it stops "scratching" and its smooth....the claybars done its job, well just look at the results very quality so I've got no complaints

Mr Know it all? I dont think so, but it looks like Im the more intelligent one who read the directions and purchased the correct things and did it the correct way.
As for the carabuna base wax before Z2 thats BS.

shogun99 · 04-02-2005, 02:48 PM

i agree with everyone here
you have to use the Z1 polish LOK before applying the zaino wax.
Why would you use wax on wax?
Anyway, sorry to repeat what everyone said but you are wrong brotha!

ps. on a side note, your car looks clean regardless!

coupe · 04-03-2005, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC/TGrandAm

Mr Know it all? I dont think so, but it looks like Im the more intelligent one who read the directions and purchased the correct things and did it the correct way.
As for the carabuna base wax before Z2 thats BS.

Your not so smart on this either. The scratching "feeling" is the feeling of the crap thats in your paint coming off. This litterlaly leaves your paint (clear coat) completely clean. This also means their is no protectant after your done. After your done wash and dry the car AGAIN. Then add a wax of your choice. I preffer to clay bar, mequires scratch X then Zymol. I claybar and scratch X it after winter ONLY. After that its only wash dry and Zymol every 2 weeks.

WATER IS NOT A LUBRICANT NOR IS ANY SOAP OF ANY KIND!

Hodge · 04-03-2005, 06:23 PM

mequires scratch X work good? my buddy has a grand prix GT and its black and there is so many swirleys and scuffs and **** and he hates it. so all i would need to do is wash it dry it, and then use claybar when it is dry and then wash it again, apply the scratch X to the WHOLE car and then wash it again and apply a wax???

Panacea · 04-03-2005, 09:49 PM

Scratch X didn't do sh!t for me, but it did add a few marks of it's own. I guess if you make an X pattern the thing will do as the name says.

coupe · 04-06-2005, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hodge

mequires scratch X work good? my buddy has a grand prix GT and its black and there is so many swirleys and scuffs and **** and he hates it. so all i would need to do is wash it dry it, and then use claybar when it is dry and then wash it again, apply the scratch X to the WHOLE car and then wash it again and apply a wax???

Basicly.
Keep in mind that this process will take you 6-9 hours. Its an entire days work. Be picky as possible and take your time. Make sure you follow the instructions on the clay bar kit and do exactly what it says.
I did this last saturday. First i washed the car and dried it. Pulled it into the garage. Clay barred the whole car taking my time. Backed it out of the garage and rewashed it and dried it. Pulled it back into the garage. Applied Mequirs Scratch X to the whole car doing one body section at a time. I then did the same with the wax, i use Zymol.
The car feels and looks like glass.

P.S. Use Scratch X only once a year.

coupe · 04-06-2005, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panacea

Scratch X didn't do sh!t for me, but it did add a few marks of it's own. I guess if you make an X pattern the thing will do as the name says.

Thats strange. I havent ever had a problem but yet again i only use it once a year.

04-06-2005, 10:19 PM

Yea sorry Im not tryin to be an ass, Im just goin by what the online guy said on the phone, it was a distributor, but yea Im just the messenger ha, but it's sittin in the garage right now....I sorta miss it, I'm in Cali right now...never seen so many SUV's with big chrome rims

it is INSANE

04-06-2005, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coupe

Basicly.
Keep in mind that this process will take you 6-9 hours. Its an entire days work. Be picky as possible and take your time. Make sure you follow the instructions on the clay bar kit and do exactly what it says.
I did this last saturday. First i washed the car and dried it. Pulled it into the garage. Clay barred the whole car taking my time. Backed it out of the garage and rewashed it and dried it. Pulled it back into the garage. Applied Mequirs Scratch X to the whole car doing one body section at a time. I then did the same with the wax, i use Zymol.
The car feels and looks like glass.

P.S. Use Scratch X only once a year.

i'll agree with that, it takes me about 7~8 hrs to do mine

coupe · 04-09-2005, 12:00 PM

Just a wash and dry and wax is about 4-5 hours. I wash it and dry it every week and wash dry and wax every 2 weeks.
Make fun of me all ya want but my GA is way more detailed than your vette.

Panacea · 04-09-2005, 01:59 PM

So I guess he got tired of the place...

04-02-2005, 08:10 AM	#1
Guga2495 Guest Posts: n/a	Freshly Zaino'd! Hey Guys Just Freshly Zaino'd! These Are The Steps I Used And Here Are A Few Pictures Enjoy! Oh And My New Calips And Rotors Are On Too! 1) Wash Car With Dawn Dish Soap to remove wax, to wash the car you know wet it down wash it etc...BUT leave wet! 2) Buy a Mothers Clay Bar package...got mine at meijer for like 20 bucks comes with cleaner and clay bar, and sample carabuna base wax 3) Spray clay bar cleaner on area about to clay bar, then go back and forth with the clay bar youll hear a cratching noise then once the scratching noise is gone you will know its smooth youll know what I mean while you are doing it 4) Now your car prolly looks like **** with this cleaner and clay bar residue.....wash your car with car wash soap, I concentrated it pretty heavy, then dry car, and apply carabuna base wax, with buffer, then remove with polishing cloth 5) Now your cars lookin good, Next I applied Zaino Z2....I'm pretty sure it was Z2 its like pink, apply on car with buffer with new pad of course, after thats all buffed in, remove with another...new polishing cloth now your car looks and feels like glass shouldnt feel any paint imperfections or see any in the car at any angle or any spot 6) Apply RainX to all the windows and never use wipers again! Enjoy! Any Questions Just Ask! Attached Thumbnails

04-02-2005, 09:22 AM	#2
Hodge Chrome Wheel Lover AKA: CK Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 1,496 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am Se	looks cute __________________ 2000 Grand Am SE

04-02-2005, 09:25 AM	#3
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	I never leave my car wet when i clay bar. __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

04-02-2005, 09:42 AM	#4
JHawk GT GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 209 Vehicle: 02 GAGT Coupe	You applied wax before Z2? How's Z2 supposed to bond with the paint? I know people sometimes apply a quality wax, like P21S, after Zaino or some other sealant like Klasse AIO or Blackfire, but never before a sealant. __________________ 02 GAGT

04-02-2005, 09:50 AM	#5
SC/TGrandAm Newbie AKA: Kyle Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI Age: 39 Posts: 2,944 Vehicle: 2008 Accord	You have to use Z1 polish lok before you put down Z2 or you can use ZFX and mix it with the Z2. You have to use one or the other or your wax is going to wear off in a week not to mention the results are going to suck. You use a claybar when the car is wet (I do it when there is soap on the car as well for lubrication otherwise your going to ** up your paint) and you shouldnt hear scratching noises..... Scratching noises on your paint = bad. __________________ 2008 Accord EX-L Coupe** 2002 GA SCT- R.I.P HID Pioneer http://www.myspace.com/Kleigou Last edited by SC/TGrandAm; 04-02-2005 at 09:53 AM.

04-02-2005, 10:02 AM	#6
Guga2495 Guest Posts: n/a	OMFG Sorry Mr. Know It All BAHAHAH OK So goes like this, you use the lubricant stuff while you clay bar while your car is wet id never directly use a claybar on a dry car, ok then next, I was told by the guy on the phone at Zaino when i ordered all my ***, to use a carabuna base wax then try this Z2 stuff so I'm like ok so thats what I did, and the scratching noise is the claybar working all the crap from winter out of your car like salt and all that stuff, then it stops "scratching" and its smooth....the claybars done its job, well just look at the results very quality so I've got no complaints Last edited by Guga2495; 04-02-2005 at 10:15 AM.*

04-02-2005, 01:13 PM	#7
Braves299 WVU owns you AKA: David Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Derwood, Maryland Age: 36 Posts: 2,170 Vehicle: '99 GA SE 3.4, '06 Ram	looks good. Do you have the vinyl from grafxwerks to cover up your door chrome? If so, was it easy to put on? I may consider doing that.... __________________ Carl Lee Combs July 8, 1944 - February 20, 2002 "Gone for now, never forgotten"

04-02-2005, 01:24 PM	#8
Panacea Mmmm Donuts. AKA: Macleod52 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rock Island, IL Age: 40 Posts: 3,160 Vehicle: '09 Malibu LTZ	Few things I've noticed over the years of using claybar, and zaino. Never leave the car wet when you are using the claybar. Dry it off first. Then, when you are ready to claybar, use a lubricant and spray the area you are going to work with. If you have the car sopping wet the claybar gets really moist and feels like silly putty. This is bad. Why ? Because it is too soft to pick up any of the grime in the paint. As for applying wax before Zaino... Whomever you talked to is full of sh!t. Did you call ZAINO themselves or did you call one of the online distributors? Why do you think Sal recommends using dawn dish soap to remove the previous wax first?!?!?! If zaino was meant to be applied over wax they wouldn't recommend stripping the old wax off first... If you don't believe me, write an E-MAIL to SAL ZAINO (you can get the e-mail off the zainobros.com site). He always responds, and if what you said is true, I'm sure he'll fire that dumb SOB. EDIT: Application Instructions.. __________________ "Never argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience." Last edited by Panacea; 04-02-2005 at 01:35 PM.

04-02-2005, 01:25 PM	#9
GaRedCoupe GAGT - Member AKA: Eric Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Raymore Missouri Age: 34 Posts: 317 Vehicle: 1998 Grand Prix GTP	Dude those wheels are SWEET.

04-02-2005, 02:48 PM	#11
shogun99 Lift Heavy Things AKA: Bilal Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ontario CANADA Age: 39 Posts: 1,591 Vehicle: 2006 Pontiac Pursuit	i agree with everyone here you have to use the Z1 polish LOK before applying the zaino wax. Why would you use wax on wax? Anyway, sorry to repeat what everyone said but you are wrong brotha! ps. on a side note, your car looks clean regardless! __________________ "Have you ever been mistaken for a malformed Parisian who lives in a Cathedral and rings bells? If so, you could suffer from kyphosis." -- Mike Robertson "Your bargaining posture is highly dubious." --Unicron (transformers the movie 1986). "Play Like a Champion" -- Oklahoma Football

04-03-2005, 06:23 PM	#13
Hodge Chrome Wheel Lover AKA: CK Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 1,496 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am Se	mequires scratch X work good? my buddy has a grand prix GT and its black and there is so many swirleys and scuffs and **** and he hates it. so all i would need to do is wash it dry it, and then use claybar when it is dry and then wash it again, apply the scratch X to the WHOLE car and then wash it again and apply a wax??? __________________ 2000 Grand Am SE

04-03-2005, 09:49 PM	#14
Panacea Mmmm Donuts. AKA: Macleod52 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rock Island, IL Age: 40 Posts: 3,160 Vehicle: '09 Malibu LTZ	Scratch X didn't do sh!t for me, but it did add a few marks of it's own. I guess if you make an X pattern the thing will do as the name says. __________________ "Never argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience."

04-06-2005, 10:19 PM	#17
Guga2495 Guest Posts: n/a	Yea sorry Im not tryin to be an ass, Im just goin by what the online guy said on the phone, it was a distributor, but yea Im just the messenger ha, but it's sittin in the garage right now....I sorta miss it, I'm in Cali right now...never seen so many SUV's with big chrome rims it is INSANE

04-09-2005, 12:00 PM	#19
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	Just a wash and dry and wax is about 4-5 hours. I wash it and dry it every week and wash dry and wax every 2 weeks. Make fun of me all ya want but my GA is way more detailed than your vette. __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

04-09-2005, 01:59 PM	#20
Panacea Mmmm Donuts. AKA: Macleod52 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rock Island, IL Age: 40 Posts: 3,160 Vehicle: '09 Malibu LTZ	So I guess he got tired of the place... __________________ "Never argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience."

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