Pontiac Grand Prix: GXP

JWeavis · 06-03-2005, 11:19 AM

So, I just got off my test drive..... Anyone want a Trailblazer for a year? =)

God damn that was fun. 303HP out of a 5.3L V8. The thing drove heavy like all Grand Prix's do, but at 97 it felt like 45. Tons of room in the bay for any aftermarket parts, nice exhaust tone, but the interior plastics leave some to be desired....

$27,xxx GMS

Ant · 06-03-2005, 12:22 PM

......FWD.

how was the torque steer?

Braves299 · 06-03-2005, 01:13 PM

Some cars such as Nissan and Acura are getting up there in the HP and Torque range. Yet nobody even thinks of torque steer when it comes to a foreign company. Why?

GM is doing nothing wrong with this car. Its a great car for the money with loads of power.

Ant · 06-03-2005, 01:56 PM

HP doesn't cause torque steer. if i'm wrong, correct me.

what car does honda/acura make that has alot of torque that's FWD?

when i think of the altima se-r, or the maxima, i think it would have alot of torque steer as well.

jake3217 · 06-03-2005, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ant

what car does honda/acura make that has alot of torque that's FWD?

That's a trick question. They don't make anything with a lot of torque!

*rimshot*

AMRAAM4 · 06-03-2005, 02:23 PM

Weavis...DO NOT BUY THIS CAR!! Trust me, my fiance has a '04 CompG and I can't wait for the focker to spontaneously combust. If you buy this car....hopefully you have a good chunk to put down, or you truly truly truly...did I say truly....know you will want this car for the next 5 years of your life.

3.5 more years with my future wife's orange, depreciating cheesebox. By that time it'll have 100k miles and be ready to blow...YAH!!

Mike3800 · 06-03-2005, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMRAAM4

Weavis...DO NOT BUY THIS CAR!! Trust me, my fiance has a '04 CompG and I can't wait for the focker to spontaneously combust. If you buy this car....hopefully you have a good chunk to put down, or you truly truly truly...did I say truly....know you will want this car for the next 5 years of your life.

3.5 more years with my future wife's orange, depreciating cheesebox. By that time it'll have 100k miles and be ready to blow...YAH!!

That's why I buy GM cars used but with warranty. Let some fool pay for it and drive it around the block a few times, then I pick it up for half of what they paid.

I have a feeling the GXP will hold more value than your girls GTP. Not much more.. but more.

Mike3800 · 06-03-2005, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ant

......FWD.

how was the torque steer?

How's it in your FWD GA?

Ant · 06-03-2005, 04:04 PM

turns right unless i say otherwise under hard acceleration, and thus I could imagine how severe it would be in a 350 lb/ft torque FWD v8 powered car. I ask how bad it was to see if GM engineered anything to combat the problem. An LSD would be a near solution, yeah?

BigTaters · 06-05-2005, 04:26 PM

i have a magazine that has the grand prix gxp and the gto in it against a new bmw, acura, mercedes, audi and something else at a test track and the 2 pontiacs destroyed the other 4 or 5 cars in pretty much all the performance categories. i think it is car and driver. id have to go look but im too lazy haha

ViperGTSR · 06-05-2005, 04:50 PM

Speed Channel is doin a show with the GTO and GXP on June 12th

Mike3800 · 06-06-2005, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ant

turns right unless i say otherwise under hard acceleration, and thus I could imagine how severe it would be in a 350 lb/ft torque FWD v8 powered car. I ask how bad it was to see if GM engineered anything to combat the problem. An LSD would be a near solution, yeah?

Mine never did that.

A design with 50/50 halfshafts with the engine mounted with the crank facing the radiator and LSD. That would help.

Vintalage · 06-06-2005, 01:52 PM

Torque steer is somewhat managed, but is still noticable. Going around a corner and flooring it towards the end is where the problem arises. It doesn't go where you want it to go.

The power was nice, but I was still driving a GP with what I think is one of the worst interiors i've sat in for a high priced car. One of the worst. Design is terrible.

JWeavis · 06-06-2005, 02:49 PM

Sorry for the late responses.....

I will mostlikly be waiting until next year this time, so that I will not enter a new lease with a loss from this one.

I will not be "buying" a vehicle anytime in the near future. I just put more miles on the car than I can afford to pay for it in the short term. That and with my dad needing to buy/lease a new car every-other year (per his GM contract) it's just better for me to lease.

The car was a lot of fun as I said. I still think they couldn't have been more cheap on the dash plastics, the Cobalts plastic is nicer.

I'll be sure to TiVo the 12th's C&D, thank you Alex for the heads-up. I'll be in Toronto for a wedding Friday thru Sunday.

I have pics up.... http://www.jweavis.com/photogallery/...s.php?album=17

PontiacGT2K · 06-15-2005, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braves299

Some cars such as Nissan and Acura are getting up there in the HP and Torque range. Yet nobody even thinks of torque steer when it comes to a foreign company. Why?

GM is doing nothing wrong with this car. Its a great car for the money with loads of power.

RWD, or LSDs factory.

crazypontiac03 · 06-15-2005, 08:49 PM

Right now u can pick on up for 25k! With all the rebate's and crap!! Tempting

bigbenSC · 06-16-2005, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braves299

Some cars such as Nissan and Acura are getting up there in the HP and Torque range. Yet nobody even thinks of torque steer when it comes to a foreign company. Why?

GM is doing nothing wrong with this car. Its a great car for the money with loads of power.

Becuase the Japanese would NEVER let a platform live for almost a decade with just minor changes. As the japanese companies have increased the power in their vehicles they have also designed new structures to deal with it. I drove a GXP and was actually surprised by how little torque steer there was. Not bad for 300 HP actually. The interior is a dissapointment as stated by many above.

Mike3800 · 06-17-2005, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbengt67

Becuase the Japanese would NEVER let a platform live for almost a decade with just minor changes.

Maxima. Altima. Civic. Camry. Corrola. Should I keep going? Nearly a decade on all of those with minor changes.

PontiacGT2K · 06-17-2005, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike3800

Maxima. Altima. Civic. Camry. Corrola. Should I keep going? Nearly a decade on all of those with minor changes.

Uhm....what?! You're telling me the new Maxima, Altima, Camry, and Corolla are the same as they were 10 years ago, let alone 3 years ago?

Mike3800 · 06-17-2005, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PontiacGT2K

Uhm....what?! You're telling me the new Maxima, Altima, Camry, and Corolla are the same as they were 10 years ago, let alone 3 years ago?

No. Read closer.

He said "Japanese would NEVER let a platform live for almost a decade with just minor changes"

Maxima got minor changes from 1995-2003. Altima stay nearly the same fron 1993 to 2001. That's "almost a decade with just minor changes"

Toyota Camry and K-roller same deal different years etc...

Almost EVERY car company lets a good selling platform alone for nearly a decade with only minor changes.

06-03-2005, 11:19 AM	#1
JWeavis [H]ard-Mod AKA: Jason Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mason, MI Age: 43 Posts: 248 Vehicle: G6 GTP	Pontiac Grand Prix: GXP So, I just got off my test drive..... Anyone want a Trailblazer for a year? =) God damn that was fun. 303HP out of a 5.3L V8. The thing drove heavy like all Grand Prix's do, but at 97 it felt like 45. Tons of room in the bay for any aftermarket parts, nice exhaust tone, but the interior plastics leave some to be desired.... $27,xxx GMS __________________ G6 GTP My Pics 2008 Auto Show Pics

06-03-2005, 12:22 PM	#2
Ant LS2 - Member AKA: Anthony Join Date: May 2003 Location: DC metro area Age: 34 Posts: 2,251 Vehicle: S5/GTO	......FWD. how was the torque steer? __________________ USAF -06 IBM GTO/M6 - 477 WHP Best e/t before H/C - 12.71 @ 111.77 -18 Audi S5 Prestige Navarra Blue/A8 - DTUK Tuned 12.14 @ 111.19

06-03-2005, 01:13 PM	#3
Braves299 WVU owns you AKA: David Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Derwood, Maryland Age: 36 Posts: 2,170 Vehicle: '99 GA SE 3.4, '06 Ram	Some cars such as Nissan and Acura are getting up there in the HP and Torque range. Yet nobody even thinks of torque steer when it comes to a foreign company. Why? GM is doing nothing wrong with this car. Its a great car for the money with loads of power. __________________ Carl Lee Combs July 8, 1944 - February 20, 2002 "Gone for now, never forgotten"

06-03-2005, 01:56 PM	#4
Ant LS2 - Member AKA: Anthony Join Date: May 2003 Location: DC metro area Age: 34 Posts: 2,251 Vehicle: S5/GTO	HP doesn't cause torque steer. if i'm wrong, correct me. what car does honda/acura make that has alot of torque that's FWD? when i think of the altima se-r, or the maxima, i think it would have alot of torque steer as well. __________________ USAF -06 IBM GTO/M6 - 477 WHP Best e/t before H/C - 12.71 @ 111.77 -18 Audi S5 Prestige Navarra Blue/A8 - DTUK Tuned 12.14 @ 111.19

06-03-2005, 02:23 PM	#6
AMRAAM4 Wiley 'Ol Veteran AKA: Bob (aka Hoss) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Azerbaijan Age: 45 Posts: 6,935 Vehicle: See My Signature Block	Weavis...DO NOT BUY THIS CAR!! Trust me, my fiance has a '04 CompG and I can't wait for the focker to spontaneously combust. If you buy this car....hopefully you have a good chunk to put down, or you truly truly truly...did I say truly....know you will want this car for the next 5 years of your life. 3.5 more years with my future wife's orange, depreciating cheesebox. By that time it'll have 100k miles and be ready to blow...YAH!! __________________ 2016 GoMango Challenger SRT Hellcat 2014 Redline Pearl Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2018 Bruiser Grey Dodge Durango SRT TRADED-2004 Black Grand Am GT,2004 Impulse Blue GTO M6, 2012 Mineral Gray Jeep SRT8, 2010 Bright Silver Jeep SRT8 LEASE TURN-IN-2006 Summit White TrailBlazer SS AWD (Vector CAI & tune) SOLD-2000 Silvermist Grand Am GT Supercharged,1994 Daytona Blue Single Turbo RX7 (427whp/330wtq), 2006 Spice Red GTO A4, 2013 Grabber Blue Shelby GT500

06-03-2005, 04:04 PM	#9
Ant LS2 - Member AKA: Anthony Join Date: May 2003 Location: DC metro area Age: 34 Posts: 2,251 Vehicle: S5/GTO	turns right unless i say otherwise under hard acceleration, and thus I could imagine how severe it would be in a 350 lb/ft torque FWD v8 powered car. I ask how bad it was to see if GM engineered anything to combat the problem. An LSD would be a near solution, yeah? __________________ USAF -06 IBM GTO/M6 - 477 WHP Best e/t before H/C - 12.71 @ 111.77 -18 Audi S5 Prestige Navarra Blue/A8 - DTUK Tuned 12.14 @ 111.19

06-05-2005, 04:26 PM	#10
BigTaters Local Pimp AKA: Derek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Regina, SK Age: 44 Posts: 602 Vehicle: 2000 G.A. GT	i have a magazine that has the grand prix gxp and the gto in it against a new bmw, acura, mercedes, audi and something else at a test track and the 2 pontiacs destroyed the other 4 or 5 cars in pretty much all the performance categories. i think it is car and driver. id have to go look but im too lazy haha __________________ Mustangs are for useless fat girls.

06-05-2005, 04:50 PM	#11
ViperGTSR i <3 my lanyard AKA: Alex Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: High Desert, SoCal Age: 35 Posts: 2,260 Vehicle: Turbo Biodiesel \| R1	Speed Channel is doin a show with the GTO and GXP on June 12th __________________ House mods are the new car mods

06-06-2005, 01:52 PM	#13
Vintalage Hey paisanos! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 5,490 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am GT1	Torque steer is somewhat managed, but is still noticable. Going around a corner and flooring it towards the end is where the problem arises. It doesn't go where you want it to go. The power was nice, but I was still driving a GP with what I think is one of the worst interiors i've sat in for a high priced car. One of the worst. Design is terrible. __________________ 2002 Grand Am GT1 Sedan - Black 7000K HID PICS [SOLD to Jscarano]

06-06-2005, 02:49 PM	#14
JWeavis [H]ard-Mod AKA: Jason Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mason, MI Age: 43 Posts: 248 Vehicle: G6 GTP	Sorry for the late responses..... I will mostlikly be waiting until next year this time, so that I will not enter a new lease with a loss from this one. I will not be "buying" a vehicle anytime in the near future. I just put more miles on the car than I can afford to pay for it in the short term. That and with my dad needing to buy/lease a new car every-other year (per his GM contract) it's just better for me to lease. The car was a lot of fun as I said. I still think they couldn't have been more cheap on the dash plastics, the Cobalts plastic is nicer. I'll be sure to TiVo the 12th's C&D, thank you Alex for the heads-up. I'll be in Toronto for a wedding Friday thru Sunday. I have pics up.... http://www.jweavis.com/photogallery/...s.php?album=17 __________________ G6 GTP My Pics 2008 Auto Show Pics

06-15-2005, 08:49 PM	#16
crazypontiac03 MiDnIgHt AKA: Jason/Sparky Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: IL Age: 37 Posts: 3,019 Vehicle: 2008 HHR/05 Galant	Right now u can pick on up for 25k! With all the rebate's and crap!! Tempting __________________ Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, if it wasn't for FORD's our tools would rust! "Unions were the rise and will be the fall of this Great Nation" "A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in... And how many want out." Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you: 1. Jesus Christ 2. The American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom. -Tony Blair

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