amp for my 12" L7's..

11-11-2005, 07:08 AM

hey guys i posted this a little while back about my 12 in l7 kickers... im plannin on buyin a temporary amp for a few months until i come up with some money for a better one... its a 1000 watt profile california.. im gettin it for like 80 bucks off of my friend... i just want to know if it can harm the subs at all and if it would be able to power them up.. the subs are 750 rms... 1500 peak... so if anyone can give any input... and if that amp wont be able to do it.. if u could tell me a decent priced amp that would fire those babies up... thanks

caraudiodave · 11-11-2005, 07:42 AM

it will very likely harm the subs. why not have some patience and wait til you an afford the correct amp. subs are not a necessity like a source unit or tweeters...you can survive without them.

those profile amps put out so much distortion, plus you know you want to bump the subs, so i guarantee youll damage the coils with that amp.

Rosado · 11-11-2005, 10:15 PM

kabooommmm

IanGT99 · 11-11-2005, 11:25 PM

Save your cash. Profile amps suck pretty bad. I wouldn't even bother until you can get a matching Kicker amp or even a JL 1000/1. With such good subs, you'll want clean power.

HiFiCarGuy · 11-11-2005, 11:39 PM

x2...although, in high school I had an old school lanzar amp (the opti-drive something) pushing two 10L7's. Sounded incredible. I wouldn't only limit yourself to kicker or JL, but it definately needs to be a higher end amp. Anything crappy will be distortion crazy and as Chris kindly put it, "kabooommmm" Save your money for something better, otherwise you'll be sorry.

Rosado · 11-12-2005, 01:33 PM

How much do you want to bet that he is going to do it anyway.....

Lash · 11-12-2005, 02:47 PM

Hifonics

HiFiCarGuy · 11-12-2005, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosado

How much do you want to bet that he is going to do it anyway.....

hahahaha, I'm sure he will. You don't buy kicker L7's for SQ.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lash

Hifonics

Not a bad way to go. They make some decent gear, and their prices are reasonable...it'd be much better than that profile amp.

IanGT99 · 11-13-2005, 10:37 AM

For the record, I wasn't limiting it to JL or Kicker...just a suggestion.

Hifonics wouldn't be half bad, either.

HiFiCarGuy · 11-13-2005, 11:08 AM

^^^^ and very good ones at that. Just high on the price spectrum.

Rosado · 11-13-2005, 11:48 AM

Well here is the problem. You spend the money for a very good sub and then you want to buy an amp BUT you dont have the funds to buy one. So why spend the money on a sub that you cant afford the power it correctly. I dont get that. People come in asking this very same question on what I can use. If you do some searching on a product and what will work with it you will be surprised what you will find. There are also some really good decent stuff out there and the price is hard to beat and sound great. For instance , http://www.diamondaudio.com/ I have used and tested there products from the low end to the high end. I was very pleased on the performance of this product. So instead of buying that sub and not have an amp to push you can get an amp and sub for just a little over what the L7 cost, and still sound great. Also you have to ask yourself what direction you want to go in. SQ,,SPL ????

Bottom line is kosta01 you asked us and we are trying to give you suggestion on what to do. Do yourself a favor, put that sub away untill you have the funds to buy the proper amp for it. There is nothing worse than having something that you want and it doesnt work right cuz your freind is trying to unload a piece of sh#$ amp on you. There are alot of guys that know enough or alot on systems and we can answer your question.

HiFiCarGuy · 11-13-2005, 12:59 PM

x2. I'd do some research on car audio forums. Some of the best gear is from companies that you've never heard of before. I use all elemental designs stuff (most people have never heard of them) and I love it. All of my friends have been blown away by the sound of my system (I use their amps, subs, and speakers). Now, I'm not here to preach eD, it's just an example of a company that not many people have heard of that makes great stuff.

DUH! I just thought of an amp that might fit your bill. I'd look into the Phoneix Gold Octane series amps. Search around ebay for them. They can be had for ~200 and would be just great for what you want to do.

IanGT99 · 11-13-2005, 05:53 PM

^^^ I agree with the Phoenix Gold call. My best friend has two JL W6v2's and he used a 4-channel Octane Series amp. Had the two subs both bridged and it was quite possibly the loudest system I've ever heard. However, the amp did blow a channel after about 6 months, but he pounded it hard every time he was in the car. Plus, I'm almost positive he had them running at 1 ohm. I didn't do the hookup, but I did put in his components and built the enclosure. Anyways, with the L7's I think they'd match up real well with a PG amp. They actually have a new line of amps out. Check this: http://www.phoenixgold.com/2004/rsdamps.html

Even the Octane Series 15.0:1 would be a great choice. It'd send out about 375 watts RMS per sub and you can get it for about $250 shipped or cheaper on Ebay.

Rosado · 11-13-2005, 09:02 PM

OCTANE-R 15.0:1 would be my choice. Run the subs in series. It would be right at the power range and not be over it..

Lash · 11-14-2005, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanGT99

My best friend has two JL W6v2's and he used a 4-channel Octane Series amp. Had the two subs both bridged and it was quite possibly the loudest system I've ever heard.

If you think the W6's are loud...you should come hear my ported W3's

Lash · 11-14-2005, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosado

OCTANE-R 15.0:1 would be my choice. Run the subs in series. It would be right at the power range and not be over it..

Why series?

edit: nevermind...I see that they are not 1 ohm stable. You think thats gonna be enough power for 2 L7's at 4 ohms? They are rated at 500x1 @ 4ohms rms (1000x1 rms@ 2ohm....1500@2ohm MAX)....so only 250 per sub.

IanGT99 · 11-15-2005, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lash

If you think the W6's are loud...you should come hear my ported W3's

Let me take a week off of work and drive to Wisconsin. I'll get right on that...

The W3's are certainly a solid sub. But these W6v2's are just outrageous. They aren't even in a ported box...it's sealed. When they are both working correctly, they can melt your eyeballs.

IanGT99 · 11-15-2005, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lash

Why series?

edit: nevermind...I see that they are not 1 ohm stable. You think thats gonna be enough power for 2 L7's at 4 ohms? They are rated at 500x1 @ 4ohms rms (1000x1 rms@ 2ohm....1500@2ohm MAX)....so only 250 per sub.

By the way, it depends on if they're the 2 or 4 ohm coils. If they're the 4, you could wire them in parallel and still maintain the 2 ohm load for 500 watts a piece RMS. If they're the 2, the only thing he can do is run them in series with a 4 ohm load. Even then, the Octane series amps run clean power. Their specs aren't blown out of proportion like some other amps. That's why I like them and JL because they don't bump up their specs just simply because the amp was able to withstand 15,345,812 watts of power for .00004 seconds. 250 watts RMS may not be the most amount of power the subs can handle nor does it sound like a lot, but it will still outperform most other systems AS LONG AS IT HAS THE RIGHT ENCLOSURE. I heard a single 12" L7 with 300 watts going to it, and that would be plenty to shake the rearview mirror off.

HiFiCarGuy · 11-15-2005, 06:59 AM

I had a single 10L7 given 300watts that shook the mirror off. I can't stress enough the importance of the right enclosure. Nomatter what your VC set-up I wouldn't be too concerned with power (due to resistance) from an octane amp.

sc02grandam · 11-15-2005, 08:40 AM

im using a hifonics titan amp for the l7... 1500watts @1 ohm

you can find one on ebay for 200 bucks.. and it does the job pretty well

11-11-2005, 07:08 AM	#1
kosta01 Guest Posts: n/a	amp for my 12" L7's.. hey guys i posted this a little while back about my 12 in l7 kickers... im plannin on buyin a temporary amp for a few months until i come up with some money for a better one... its a 1000 watt profile california.. im gettin it for like 80 bucks off of my friend... i just want to know if it can harm the subs at all and if it would be able to power them up.. the subs are 750 rms... 1500 peak... so if anyone can give any input... and if that amp wont be able to do it.. if u could tell me a decent priced amp that would fire those babies up... thanks

11-11-2005, 07:42 AM	#2
caraudiodave Boring old man AKA: Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wood ranch, ca Age: 41 Posts: 2,172 Vehicle: '13 Camry hybrid	it will very likely harm the subs. why not have some patience and wait til you an afford the correct amp. subs are not a necessity like a source unit or tweeters...you can survive without them. those profile amps put out so much distortion, plus you know you want to bump the subs, so i guarantee youll damage the coils with that amp. __________________ 2013 Toyota Camry hybrid: Pioneer AVIC-8000NEX, Phoenix Gold ZPA0.3 (300 x 2), Phoenix Gold ZPA0.3 (300 x 2), Phoenix Gold ZPA0.5 (1000 x 1), Dynaudio MD100 (1" tweeters), Dynaudio MW160 (6.5" mids), Eclipse SW8812 (12" aluminum cone subwoofer)

11-11-2005, 10:15 PM	#3
Rosado GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Chris Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Staten Island Posts: 1,188 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am Gt Coupe	kabooommmm __________________ 2003 GT Baer big brake kit, RK Sport Body kit, @0 inch ADV5.1 wheels, Borla cat back <---My new wheels.....ADV5.1....FOR SALE... SYSTEM The Big 3 upgrade, Yellow top Optima Kenwood 8120 headunit - bluetooth - sirus sat- ipod *HERTZ audio* HI Energy HT25 center channel HSK 165XL comp doors HSK 165 comp rear 3 8inch hertz subwoofers 6th order bandpass box HP 4 Amplifier HP 1 D EP4 Car running 100% active *www.hertzaudiovideo.com*

11-11-2005, 11:25 PM	#4
IanGT99 GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Ian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Moon Township, PA Age: 38 Posts: 1,880 Vehicle: 07 Honda Ridgeline RTL	Save your cash. Profile amps suck pretty bad. I wouldn't even bother until you can get a matching Kicker amp or even a JL 1000/1. With such good subs, you'll want clean power. __________________ Tire Size Calculator

11-11-2005, 11:39 PM	#5
HiFiCarGuy VV Summer VV AKA: Chris Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Clarkston/East Lansing, MI Age: 36 Posts: 760 Vehicle: 06 Scion tC, 78 Pacer	x2...although, in high school I had an old school lanzar amp (the opti-drive something) pushing two 10L7's. Sounded incredible. I wouldn't only limit yourself to kicker or JL, but it definately needs to be a higher end amp. Anything crappy will be distortion crazy and as Chris kindly put it, "kabooommmm" Save your money for something better, otherwise you'll be sorry. __________________ Cardomain

11-12-2005, 01:33 PM	#6
Rosado GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Chris Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Staten Island Posts: 1,188 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am Gt Coupe	How much do you want to bet that he is going to do it anyway..... __________________ 2003 GT Baer big brake kit, RK Sport Body kit, @0 inch ADV5.1 wheels, Borla cat back <---My new wheels.....ADV5.1....FOR SALE... SYSTEM The Big 3 upgrade, Yellow top Optima Kenwood 8120 headunit - bluetooth - sirus sat- ipod *HERTZ audio* HI Energy HT25 center channel HSK 165XL comp doors HSK 165 comp rear 3 8inch hertz subwoofers 6th order bandpass box HP 4 Amplifier HP 1 D EP4 Car running 100% active *www.hertzaudiovideo.com*

11-12-2005, 02:47 PM	#7
Lash Slow 5.0 AKA: Luke Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Milwaukee Age: 42 Posts: 1,047 Vehicle: '02 ZR-2/ '89 LX 5.0	Hifonics __________________ Pinto II http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...f3013c716f.htm http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...mustangpic.jpg

11-13-2005, 10:37 AM	#9
IanGT99 GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Ian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Moon Township, PA Age: 38 Posts: 1,880 Vehicle: 07 Honda Ridgeline RTL	For the record, I wasn't limiting it to JL or Kicker...just a suggestion. Hifonics wouldn't be half bad, either. __________________ Tire Size Calculator

11-13-2005, 11:08 AM	#10
HiFiCarGuy VV Summer VV AKA: Chris Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Clarkston/East Lansing, MI Age: 36 Posts: 760 Vehicle: 06 Scion tC, 78 Pacer	^^^^ and very good ones at that. Just high on the price spectrum. __________________ Cardomain

11-13-2005, 11:48 AM	#11
Rosado GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Chris Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Staten Island Posts: 1,188 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am Gt Coupe	Well here is the problem. You spend the money for a very good sub and then you want to buy an amp BUT you dont have the funds to buy one. So why spend the money on a sub that you cant afford the power it correctly. I dont get that. People come in asking this very same question on what I can use. If you do some searching on a product and what will work with it you will be surprised what you will find. There are also some really good decent stuff out there and the price is hard to beat and sound great. For instance , http://www.diamondaudio.com/ I have used and tested there products from the low end to the high end. I was very pleased on the performance of this product. So instead of buying that sub and not have an amp to push you can get an amp and sub for just a little over what the L7 cost, and still sound great. Also you have to ask yourself what direction you want to go in. SQ,,SPL ???? Bottom line is kosta01 you asked us and we are trying to give you suggestion on what to do. Do yourself a favor, put that sub away untill you have the funds to buy the proper amp for it. There is nothing worse than having something that you want and it doesnt work right cuz your freind is trying to unload a piece of sh#$ amp on you. There are alot of guys that know enough or alot on systems and we can answer your question. __________________ 2003 GT Baer big brake kit, RK Sport Body kit, @0 inch ADV5.1 wheels, Borla cat back <---My new wheels.....ADV5.1....FOR SALE... SYSTEM The Big 3 upgrade, Yellow top Optima Kenwood 8120 headunit - bluetooth - sirus sat- ipod *HERTZ audio* HI Energy HT25 center channel HSK 165XL comp doors HSK 165 comp rear 3 8inch hertz subwoofers 6th order bandpass box HP 4 Amplifier HP 1 D EP4 Car running 100% active *www.hertzaudiovideo.com*

11-13-2005, 12:59 PM	#12
HiFiCarGuy VV Summer VV AKA: Chris Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Clarkston/East Lansing, MI Age: 36 Posts: 760 Vehicle: 06 Scion tC, 78 Pacer	x2. I'd do some research on car audio forums. Some of the best gear is from companies that you've never heard of before. I use all elemental designs stuff (most people have never heard of them) and I love it. All of my friends have been blown away by the sound of my system (I use their amps, subs, and speakers). Now, I'm not here to preach eD, it's just an example of a company that not many people have heard of that makes great stuff. DUH! I just thought of an amp that might fit your bill. I'd look into the Phoneix Gold Octane series amps. Search around ebay for them. They can be had for ~200 and would be just great for what you want to do. __________________ Cardomain

11-13-2005, 05:53 PM	#13
IanGT99 GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Ian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Moon Township, PA Age: 38 Posts: 1,880 Vehicle: 07 Honda Ridgeline RTL	^^^ I agree with the Phoenix Gold call. My best friend has two JL W6v2's and he used a 4-channel Octane Series amp. Had the two subs both bridged and it was quite possibly the loudest system I've ever heard. However, the amp did blow a channel after about 6 months, but he pounded it hard every time he was in the car. Plus, I'm almost positive he had them running at 1 ohm. I didn't do the hookup, but I did put in his components and built the enclosure. Anyways, with the L7's I think they'd match up real well with a PG amp. They actually have a new line of amps out. Check this: http://www.phoenixgold.com/2004/rsdamps.html Even the Octane Series 15.0:1 would be a great choice. It'd send out about 375 watts RMS per sub and you can get it for about $250 shipped or cheaper on Ebay. __________________ Tire Size Calculator Last edited by IanGT99; 11-13-2005 at 05:59 PM.

11-13-2005, 09:02 PM	#14
Rosado GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Chris Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Staten Island Posts: 1,188 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am Gt Coupe	OCTANE-R 15.0:1 would be my choice. Run the subs in series. It would be right at the power range and not be over it.. __________________ 2003 GT Baer big brake kit, RK Sport Body kit, @0 inch ADV5.1 wheels, Borla cat back <---My new wheels.....ADV5.1....FOR SALE... SYSTEM The Big 3 upgrade, Yellow top Optima Kenwood 8120 headunit - bluetooth - sirus sat- ipod *HERTZ audio* HI Energy HT25 center channel HSK 165XL comp doors HSK 165 comp rear 3 8inch hertz subwoofers 6th order bandpass box HP 4 Amplifier HP 1 D EP4 Car running 100% active *www.hertzaudiovideo.com*

11-15-2005, 06:59 AM	#19
HiFiCarGuy VV Summer VV AKA: Chris Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Clarkston/East Lansing, MI Age: 36 Posts: 760 Vehicle: 06 Scion tC, 78 Pacer	I had a single 10L7 given 300watts that shook the mirror off. I can't stress enough the importance of the right enclosure. Nomatter what your VC set-up I wouldn't be too concerned with power (due to resistance) from an octane amp. __________________ Cardomain

11-15-2005, 08:40 AM	#20
sc02grandam GAGT - Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Edmonton/ Saskatoon, CANADA Age: 41 Posts: 920 Vehicle: 02 GT coupe.. SC	im using a hifonics titan amp for the l7... 1500watts @1 ohm you can find one on ebay for 200 bucks.. and it does the job pretty well __________________ my car click here to listen to the supercharger and exhaust

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