Grand Prix gurus please

badboy2451 · 01-01-2006, 10:47 PM

aight guys, i have tried two times at club gp to get some help and nobody gave me any answers...i have a friend that bought 20 inch wheels for his grand prix (20x8.5 with 255/35/20) and they fit on the car no problem, but the slightest pothole and it sounds like his back strut is gonna go thru his trunk lid. He claims that he has talked to people, including the local performance shops, and was told that he could use those tires without rubbing at all. I dont have to much experience with grand prix'
s so i was hoping a guru on this site could help me out without just telling me to change the tire size because thats the last thing he wants to do

thanks in advance

Rba007 · 01-01-2006, 11:47 PM

What year? My 04, the driver's side rear rubs a bit on the fender when im loaded up and i hit a bump.

badboy2451 · 01-02-2006, 12:12 AM

its an 02 i think, and i do remember his passenger side tire having marks on it from the fender with just me and him in the car

Malaclypse · 01-02-2006, 01:15 AM

You've got two options:

1) Block up the rear springs which is the completely ghetto and unsafe solution. DO NOT DO THIS!

2) Change the tire size to 245/35-20 (1/4" shorter) or 235/35-20 (1/2" Shorter).

The reason why noone on CGP told you what you wanted to hear is because this is a stupid question with an obvious answer. All the local people and "performance" shops your friend talked to appearently don't have a clue when it comes to W-bodies. Tell your friend to suck it up and buy tires of the proper size and sell his current ones before he puts the fender through the tread.

botlfed · 01-02-2006, 08:08 AM

Roll the fenders........

it that is where the noise is coming from

AaronGTR · 01-02-2006, 01:32 PM

Sell the tires and the 20" wheels and get 18's.

badboy2451 · 01-02-2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Sell the tires and the 20" wheels and get 18's.

that was what i was thinking, he got them or $800 of ebay and he is worried he wont be able to get it back...i was just lookin to see i anyone had any ideas on how to make them fit that i did not already know about

botlfed · 01-02-2006, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by botlfed

Roll the fenders........

cough cough

badboy2451 · 01-02-2006, 03:47 PM

LoL will try, how exactly would you do it, just take a roller and go over it?

botlfed · 01-02-2006, 04:40 PM

use a baseball bat....... put it between the tire and beginning of the wheelwell..... then have a person or two sit in the trunk and drive the car slowly forward?reverse till it folds the inner lip up and out of the way....... but be careful on how much pressure is applied so it isn't rolled too far

RAZE · 01-20-2006, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by botlfed

use a baseball bat....... put it between the tire and beginning of the wheelwell..... then have a person or two sit in the trunk and drive the car slowly forward?reverse till it folds the inner lip up and out of the way....... but be careful on how much pressure is applied so it isn't rolled too far

I don't recommend this. Custom shops can roll a fender for around $100 which is a lot cheaper than replacing a fender if you f--- it up. I will be taking my car to jersey in the spring to roll my front fenders because I have an occasional rub.

bigbenSC · 01-21-2006, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Sell the tires and the 20" wheels and get 18's.

Couldn't agree more

botlfed · 01-21-2006, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbengt67

Couldn't agree more

the only problem is that the 20's are not what is causing the rubbing, it is the tire size and it could still have that with 18's when you put a 255 tire on a GP....

besides..... 20's on a GP are not nearly as out of place as they are on a GA

99GApunk · 01-21-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by botlfed

the only problem is that the 20's are not what is causing the rubbing, it is the tire size and it could still have that with 18's when you put a 255 tire on a GP....

besides..... 20's on a GP are not nearly as out of place as they are on a GA

i agree, there are a few GPs ive seen on 20s and they dont look bad at all depending on the wheel, the 04+ GPs have a larger overall look to them so they can definitely pull off 20s

Coop · 02-10-2006, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Sell the tires and the 20" wheels and get 18's.

yep

botlfed · 02-10-2006, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coop

yep

Quote:

Originally Posted by botlfed

the only problem is that the 20's are not what is causing the rubbing, it is the tire size and it could still have that with 18's when you put a 255 tire on a GP....

besides..... 20's on a GP are not nearly as out of place as they are on a GA

Hodge · 02-10-2006, 08:08 PM

20's look great on grand prix's... i'd go with nothing small/bigger on them. there is a few around here that look great.

rennation · 02-10-2006, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badboy2451

that was what i was thinking, he got them or $800 of ebay and he is worried he wont be able to get it back...i was just lookin to see i anyone had any ideas on how to make them fit that i did not already know about

well no duh he wont get the money back, but u can still salvage some...just get 18s like they said. he should have researched more before purchasing.

AMRAAM4 · 02-10-2006, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by botlfed

use a baseball bat....... put it between the tire and beginning of the wheelwell..... then have a person or two sit in the trunk and drive the car slowly forward?reverse till it folds the inner lip up and out of the way....... but be careful on how much pressure is applied so it isn't rolled too far

please dont' tell me you were focking serious.....

ArcticWhiteSE · 02-10-2006, 11:19 PM

I believe he was completely serious....

*shakes head* WTF....a baseball bat?

01-01-2006, 10:47 PM	#1
badboy2451 GAGT - not so n00bee AKA: Zac Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: City of 3 rivers and 5 rings Age: 36 Posts: 1,426 Vehicle: 99 gt coupe	Grand Prix gurus please aight guys, i have tried two times at club gp to get some help and nobody gave me any answers...i have a friend that bought 20 inch wheels for his grand prix (20x8.5 with 255/35/20) and they fit on the car no problem, but the slightest pothole and it sounds like his back strut is gonna go thru his trunk lid. He claims that he has talked to people, including the local performance shops, and was told that he could use those tires without rubbing at all. I dont have to much experience with grand prix' s so i was hoping a guru on this site could help me out without just telling me to change the tire size because thats the last thing he wants to do thanks in advance __________________ 20% window tint / Grafxwerks arrowhead overlay with GT emblems / CCG grille inserts / 18" AT Italia Inox with 235/40/18 Pirelli PZero Nero M&S (sitting in my basement) / Intrax lowering springs / Doctor Speed stage 3 intake / Taylor 8mm spark plug wires / Pioneer overhaul: headunit (broken) and 3-ways / Custom headlights with amber overlays / Angel eye fogs / 2 gauge piller with volt and a/f / 2 12' Rockford Fosgate P1 Subs with 325.2 amp (all stolen) / Milzy PCM My FQuick My GAGT Garage

01-01-2006, 11:47 PM	#2
Rba007 GAGT Oldie AKA: Dave Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: N. Muskegon MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,444 Vehicle: 04 Grand Prix GT	What year? My 04, the driver's side rear rubs a bit on the fender when im loaded up and i hit a bump. __________________ Dave's Sexy Ride "Sul3LiME883: i'm drunk tho. i'd throw myself at a penis right now, i bet." "When you step over the line, your nuts are mine" "ArcticSun GT: u do smell dave, smell like awesomeness"

01-02-2006, 12:12 AM	#3
badboy2451 GAGT - not so n00bee AKA: Zac Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: City of 3 rivers and 5 rings Age: 36 Posts: 1,426 Vehicle: 99 gt coupe	its an 02 i think, and i do remember his passenger side tire having marks on it from the fender with just me and him in the car __________________ 20% window tint / Grafxwerks arrowhead overlay with GT emblems / CCG grille inserts / 18" AT Italia Inox with 235/40/18 Pirelli PZero Nero M&S (sitting in my basement) / Intrax lowering springs / Doctor Speed stage 3 intake / Taylor 8mm spark plug wires / Pioneer overhaul: headunit (broken) and 3-ways / Custom headlights with amber overlays / Angel eye fogs / 2 gauge piller with volt and a/f / 2 12' Rockford Fosgate P1 Subs with 325.2 amp (all stolen) / Milzy PCM My FQuick My GAGT Garage

01-02-2006, 08:08 AM	#5
botlfed Wheelie Popper AKA: Brandon Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Michigania Age: 46 Posts: 892 Vehicle: LQ4 Turbo Mustang	Roll the fenders........ it that is where the noise is coming from __________________ First 99+ GA in the 13's former rides 99 GAGT 04 GTP Cartuning Turbocharged current ride 2000 Mustang GT Turocharged 6.0 lq4

01-02-2006, 01:32 PM	#6
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Sell the tires and the 20" wheels and get 18's. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

01-02-2006, 01:15 AM	#4
Malaclypse Wrenched Loose AKA: Scott Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,209 Vehicle: 2013 Malibu 2LT	You've got two options: 1) Block up the rear springs which is the completely ghetto and unsafe solution. DO NOT DO THIS! 2) Change the tire size to 245/35-20 (1/4" shorter) or 235/35-20 (1/2" Shorter). The reason why noone on CGP told you what you wanted to hear is because this is a stupid question with an obvious answer. All the local people and "performance" shops your friend talked to appearently don't have a clue when it comes to W-bodies. Tell your friend to suck it up and buy tires of the proper size and sell his current ones before he puts the fender through the tread.

01-02-2006, 03:47 PM	#9
badboy2451 GAGT - not so n00bee AKA: Zac Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: City of 3 rivers and 5 rings Age: 36 Posts: 1,426 Vehicle: 99 gt coupe	LoL will try, how exactly would you do it, just take a roller and go over it? __________________ 20% window tint / Grafxwerks arrowhead overlay with GT emblems / CCG grille inserts / 18" AT Italia Inox with 235/40/18 Pirelli PZero Nero M&S (sitting in my basement) / Intrax lowering springs / Doctor Speed stage 3 intake / Taylor 8mm spark plug wires / Pioneer overhaul: headunit (broken) and 3-ways / Custom headlights with amber overlays / Angel eye fogs / 2 gauge piller with volt and a/f / 2 12' Rockford Fosgate P1 Subs with 325.2 amp (all stolen) / Milzy PCM My FQuick My GAGT Garage

01-02-2006, 04:40 PM	#10
botlfed Wheelie Popper AKA: Brandon Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Michigania Age: 46 Posts: 892 Vehicle: LQ4 Turbo Mustang	use a baseball bat....... put it between the tire and beginning of the wheelwell..... then have a person or two sit in the trunk and drive the car slowly forward?reverse till it folds the inner lip up and out of the way....... but be careful on how much pressure is applied so it isn't rolled too far __________________ First 99+ GA in the 13's former rides 99 GAGT 04 GTP Cartuning Turbocharged current ride 2000 Mustang GT Turocharged 6.0 lq4

02-10-2006, 08:08 PM	#17
Hodge Chrome Wheel Lover AKA: CK Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 1,496 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am Se	20's look great on grand prix's... i'd go with nothing small/bigger on them. there is a few around here that look great. __________________ 2000 Grand Am SE

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