New PCV valve, sea foamed and accel coil packs-now have problems

[coupe]

Well I put in a new PCV valve, then i sea foamed (top end) and then I installed new accel coil packs in about an hour all at the same time. Now my check engine light is on and my idle is jumpy and it jerks/struggles under light acceleration. When i sea foamed my other vehicles the SES light has always came on but turns it self off after a few days, ussually its becuase it dirtied the O2 sensor, no big deal. With my GA however its not turning off and the idle is all jumpy.

So all of you that have sea foamed your GA, have you had the SES light come on? If so what was the problem?

Those of you that have installed Accel coil packs, have they given you any trouble?

Those that have replaced the PCV valve, had any problems afterwords? (highly unlikely i know)

I have to replace my water pump this weekend so the car is down till i replace that, after i replace that im taken it to autozone to check my codes.
I was also thinkin that maybe it has something to do with my waterpump. Its throwing crap on the belt, maybe its making the belt slip a bit and causing my problem.
Has anyone had that happen?

[iceman]

Never had an SES after top end cleaner.. Sounds like a bad coil pack. Did you change your plugs????

[coupe]

Well when i change out the water pump im gonna put my stock coil packs back in and see if that does anything. I didnt change the plugs, they have only been in for MAYBE 20k miles, they are NGK TR-55's. Im gonna pull them out anyway and see what they look like.
Bad coil pack would suck, i really hope thats not it. These accels werent that expensive ($35 or so apiece) but i would hate to have to buy another set.

[iceman]

really should change the oil and plugs after running topend cleaner through..

why did you change the coil packs in the first place?

[coupe]

Originally Posted by iceman

really should change the oil and plugs after running topend cleaner through..

why did you change the coil packs in the first place?

Why would i need to change the oil and plugs? How would the seafoam get in the oil? The plugs i can kinda understand.

My stockers where toast. The posts where black and when i went to clean them the metal started flaking off. Im gonna have to bite the bullet and buy stockers. It would suck to do that and that not be the problem.

[coupe]

I really am starting to think this car just hates me

[lone_wolf025]

I think its safe to say we've all had cars like that at one time or another...

Anyways there is a way to check the packs without removing them. If you have a 12V test lamp you can just wedge the probe into the top of each pack and ground it to see if you've got spark coming from it. I'd hold off on condeming the new parts, unless you got them second hand or you can confirm they're bad (which I'm sure you've thought of). Also if you haven't already pull the ground from the battery to let the computer relearn the power curve. Often times when you change/clean parts the computer is used to dealing with the old part and doesn't understand there's a new one.

[Panacea]

Did you add seafoam through the PCV valve hose? One time I added too much, which caused the engine to die. It caused an SES light (SVS?) and the problem was an O2 sensor. Dealer cleared the code and all is well. Could just be that the sensor didn't like something.

My car did not have a jumpy idle, and I highly doubt it's related to seafoam. I would venture to say it has something to do with the ignition system (coils, wires, plugs, etc.)

[coupe]

Originally Posted by lone_wolf025

I think its safe to say we've all had cars like that at one time or another...

Anyways there is a way to check the packs without removing them. If you have a 12V test lamp you can just wedge the probe into the top of each pack and ground it to see if you've got spark coming from it. I'd hold off on condeming the new parts, unless you got them second hand or you can confirm they're bad (which I'm sure you've thought of). Also if you haven't already pull the ground from the battery to let the computer relearn the power curve. Often times when you change/clean parts the computer is used to dealing with the old part and doesn't understand there's a new one.

How do you "wedge" it into the pack? There isnt anywhere to wedge it
Nope they are brand new coils.

[coupe]

Originally Posted by Panacea

Did you add seafoam through the PCV valve hose? One time I added too much, which caused the engine to die. It caused an SES light (SVS?) and the problem was an O2 sensor. Dealer cleared the code and all is well. Could just be that the sensor didn't like something.

My car did not have a jumpy idle, and I highly doubt it's related to seafoam. I would venture to say it has something to do with the ignition system (coils, wires, plugs, etc.)

Yup thats what happened. I put it in the PCV hose and it killed the engine. When i started it back up i had the SES light. Then i took it for a quick run and noticed right away the idle was all jumpy and it was jerky/struggles under light acceleration.
Tonight im changing the water pump and checking the plugs and gonna try to test the coil packs. I will report back what i find if anything.

[angrysk8r]

make sure you got the line going into the new valve in tight and that all your pcv hoses are plugged in tight, my idle was surging pretty badly once because of a loose pcv valve

[lone_wolf025]

Oh I'm thinking of the older style of packs. Ok then just pop the wires off the plugs one at a time and watch for the arc to ground.

[Panacea]

Originally Posted by coupe

Yup thats what happened. I put it in the PCV hose and it killed the engine. When i started it back up i had the SES light. Then i took it for a quick run and noticed right away the idle was all jumpy and it was jerky/struggles under light acceleration.
Tonight im changing the water pump and checking the plugs and gonna try to test the coil packs. I will report back what i find if anything.

Get the code read/cleared and see if that does anything for you.

[coupe]

Originally Posted by Panacea

Get the code read/cleared and see if that does anything for you.

The order im gonna do this tonight:
change water pump
check plugs
check wires
check O2 sensor
check all vaccum lines
Start the car see if i fixed it by cleanen up the wires and plugs and O2 sensor and vaccum lines.
if not fixed put the old crappy stocker coils back in.
Start car
If still not fixed im taking it to autozone to have the codes read.

I will keep you all updated, please keep the suggestions coming.

[Panacea]

Make sure you unplug the battery too.

[coupe]

Originally Posted by Panacea

Make sure you unplug the battery too.

Well yeah

[coupe]

OK i changed the water pump and the idle is back to normal, temp is back to normal and no more jerky/struggling under light acceleration and no more SES light. Weird uh?

[digitalballz]

No if you were low on antifreeze it could cause those conditions.

[coupe]

Originally Posted by digitalballz

No if you were low on antifreeze it could cause those conditions.

I wasnt low on antifreeze though. My water pump wasnt leaking at all. The reason i new it was going was becuase it was heating up WAY to fast, it was throwing black crap on the underside of my hood above the belt (not much but noticable) and you could hear the bearing ticking/squealing when the engine was cold.

[coupe]

Oh and BTW getting that damn cover off was a night mare
It litteraly was like part of the water pump