RSM Supercharger Pics, Videos, and Dynos... oh my

Pacman · 01-05-2003, 08:10 PM

hi, my name is daniel. i have albuquerque's first supercharged Grand Am. the process took roughly over 16 weeks including installation. as most of you remember i planned to have this installed in october, welcome to january

. i finally got some pictures for you guys from my new digital camera. the video is not too good of quality, but it will be the first video of a 2.4L supercharged Grand Am on the internet. i need someone to host it too (please PM me, thanks). the dyno was done by Dyno Edge, which is the most popular local dyno shop. btw, the numbers shown are to the wheels at 6 psi. calculate it out and my Grand Am has about 230 hp to the crank including loss of hp due to elevation. the blow off valve is AMAZING. i've been asked what kind of turbo it is several times on the road. overall, i know that i have gained at least a 12 car length increase from the RSM kit. it came out to a little over $5,000 including install. i would be happy to answer any question you guys have at all about the rsm kit

Pacman · 01-05-2003, 08:18 PM

the car

Pacman · 01-05-2003, 08:20 PM

the engine

Pacman · 01-05-2003, 08:22 PM

the blow off valve

VTECSiGAH8R · 01-05-2003, 08:26 PM

sent PM

Pacman · 01-05-2003, 08:35 PM

i'm having some trouble posting the dyno sheet because of file size and the ability to read the chart. iceman will be taking care of the video and i'll see what i can do about the dyno sheet. it is a scanned portion of the copy of the original, so do you see where my dilemma is? thanks again iceman

182.2 hp
175.1 ft/lbs
(Both are to the wheels)

Rba007 · 01-05-2003, 08:43 PM

I hate you with a passion dan, really, I do. Anytime you feel like driving north east for awhile, bring it to michigan! Ill let you stay in my basement if you give me rides for awhile! Great to hear its workin out for you. Hows the steering going?

Pacman · 01-05-2003, 08:54 PM

anytime dave

. i really want you guys to see this at the upcoming picnic (i mean it's only 5-6 months away

) but im looking forward to it. the power steering was the only drawback to having this. on the 2.4L, our powersteering is direct drive, meaning it runs directly off one of the cams. now, the pulley system is set to run off that, taking away energy. its not a terrible problem anymore, it used to be a lot worse, but the thing is finally breaking in

Doug · 01-05-2003, 09:06 PM

Very cool Pacman. I'm jealous that you have boost before me

Can't wait to see the car in person at GAP.

black99gt · 01-06-2003, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doug
Very cool Pacman. I'm jealous that you have boost before me Can't wait to see the car in person at GAP.

Doug yours will be faster tho

Doug · 01-06-2003, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by black99gt

Doug yours will be faster tho

I can' t speculate. Pacman has boost, I do not. Until I have boost I can't say anything.

Pacman can you do me a favor and try to get a pic of the oil return line and where they tapped it on the oil pan. Thanx a lot.

wink · 01-06-2003, 12:05 PM

nice work

can't wait to pull up next to you at the light.

01-06-2003, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pacman
i'm having some trouble posting the dyno sheet because of file size and the ability to read the chart. iceman will be taking care of the video and i'll see what i can do about the dyno sheet. it is a scanned portion of the copy of the original, so do you see where my dilemma is? thanks again iceman

182.2 hp
175.1 ft/lbs
(Both are to the wheels)

Do you have a 5 speed manual or automatic?

233. 6 HP
224.5 lb/ft Torque at crank(if automatic, 22% drivetrain loss)

214.3 HP
206.0 lb/ft Torque at crank(if 5 speed manual, 15% drivetrain loss)

Not bad at all.

01-06-2003, 04:28 PM

My last dyno from Nov. '01 was:

190.3 Hp
203.1 lb/ft Torque

244.0 Hp
260.4 lb/ft at crank(22% drivetrain losses)

I will be at the dyno again in a week or 2. I have not dyno'd since I installed the RT downpipe and the 2.5" SC pulley. It should be interesting.

Pacman · 01-06-2003, 04:58 PM

dyno results. here is a zoomed in portion of it

Pacman · 01-06-2003, 05:02 PM

ok and here is the line graph and full dyno chart. i went over it in red marker cause it doesnt show up well at all on the computer. i really need to get a new scanner

edit: kman, how much psi are you running with the new pulley? i asked if i could get a smaller one installed, but the shop wouldnt do it because there is a good chance the belt could slip. right now i am running an 8 lb pulley and running just over 6 psi at this elevation (5000 ft). i am still working on that video too. i guess i have hotmail and wont let me send anything over 1 MB wtf . do you guys know where i can host at a website for .mov? i've tried to find converters too and still no luck. everything is mpg!!!

Doug · 01-06-2003, 05:17 PM

Hey can you get a pic of the oil tap please. THanks

Hmm the a/f looks like you went lean on the top end. But maybe you left off. I can't tell when its in spd not rpm.

01-06-2003, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pacman
ok and here is the line graph and full dyno chart. i went over it in red marker cause it doesnt show up well at all on the computer. i really need to get a new scanner

edit: kman, how much psi are you running with the new pulley? i asked if i could get a smaller one installed, but the shop wouldnt do it because there is a good chance the belt could slip. right now i am running an 8 lb pulley and running just over 6 psi at this elevation (5000 ft). i am still working on that video too. i guess i have hotmail and wont let me send anything over 1 MB wtf . do you guys know where i can host at a website for .mov? i've tried to find converters too and still no luck. everything is mpg!!!

With the 2.5" pulley, I am seeing 10 psi of max boost now( the weather is cold now, which helps). In other than Winter, I am at 8.5 psi of max boost.

Gavster · 01-06-2003, 08:45 PM

Kman...Where me and pacman live the altitude has as large of an effect as drivetrain loss. Therefore he is making even more crank horsepower...i calculated it out to be more of a 30-35 percent loss from the crank to the wheel. I think i remeber getting something like 234-244ish crank.

His car is quick regardless.

Pacman · 01-06-2003, 08:46 PM

10 lbs! that is crazy boost

i wish my charger could make that. doug, i was running lean on the top end. they wanted me to purchase a fuel pressure regulator for my car so it runs a little more rich. btw, i sent some pics of the oil tap to your email

. i still need to post that video too! tonight i will try my best.

edit: any recommendations to sites? the videos i have are 4-5 MB each and hotmail only lets me send just over 1 MB and yahoo only 3 MB

01-05-2003, 08:10 PM	#1
Pacman GASE Totaled :( Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 37 Posts: 771 Vehicle: 2002 Acura RSX Type-S	RSM Supercharger Pics, Videos, and Dynos... oh my hi, my name is daniel. i have albuquerque's first supercharged Grand Am. the process took roughly over 16 weeks including installation. as most of you remember i planned to have this installed in october, welcome to january . i finally got some pictures for you guys from my new digital camera. the video is not too good of quality, but it will be the first video of a 2.4L supercharged Grand Am on the internet. i need someone to host it too (please PM me, thanks). the dyno was done by Dyno Edge, which is the most popular local dyno shop. btw, the numbers shown are to the wheels at 6 psi. calculate it out and my Grand Am has about 230 hp to the crank including loss of hp due to elevation. the blow off valve is AMAZING. i've been asked what kind of turbo it is several times on the road. overall, i know that i have gained at least a 12 car length increase from the RSM kit. it came out to a little over $5,000 including install. i would be happy to answer any question you guys have at all about the rsm kit __________________ Daniel R.I.P. 2000 2.4L Grand Am SE (2000- 12/11/2004)

01-05-2003, 08:18 PM	#2
Pacman GASE Totaled :( Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 37 Posts: 771 Vehicle: 2002 Acura RSX Type-S	the car __________________ Daniel R.I.P. 2000 2.4L Grand Am SE (2000- 12/11/2004)

01-05-2003, 08:20 PM	#3
Pacman GASE Totaled :( Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 37 Posts: 771 Vehicle: 2002 Acura RSX Type-S	the engine __________________ Daniel R.I.P. 2000 2.4L Grand Am SE (2000- 12/11/2004)

01-05-2003, 08:22 PM	#4
Pacman GASE Totaled :( Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 37 Posts: 771 Vehicle: 2002 Acura RSX Type-S	the blow off valve __________________ Daniel R.I.P. 2000 2.4L Grand Am SE (2000- 12/11/2004)

01-05-2003, 08:35 PM	#6
Pacman GASE Totaled :( Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 37 Posts: 771 Vehicle: 2002 Acura RSX Type-S	i'm having some trouble posting the dyno sheet because of file size and the ability to read the chart. iceman will be taking care of the video and i'll see what i can do about the dyno sheet. it is a scanned portion of the copy of the original, so do you see where my dilemma is? thanks again iceman 182.2 hp 175.1 ft/lbs (Both are to the wheels) __________________ Daniel R.I.P. 2000 2.4L Grand Am SE (2000- 12/11/2004)

01-05-2003, 08:26 PM	#5
VTECSiGAH8R GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Miami, FL Age: 36 Posts: 1,346 Vehicle: 97 Honda Civic DX	sent PM

01-05-2003, 08:43 PM	#7
Rba007 GAGT Oldie AKA: Dave Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: N. Muskegon MI Age: 38 Posts: 2,444 Vehicle: 04 Grand Prix GT	I hate you with a passion dan, really, I do. Anytime you feel like driving north east for awhile, bring it to michigan! Ill let you stay in my basement if you give me rides for awhile! Great to hear its workin out for you. Hows the steering going? __________________ Dave's Sexy Ride "Sul3LiME883: i'm drunk tho. i'd throw myself at a penis right now, i bet." "When you step over the line, your nuts are mine" "ArcticSun GT: u do smell dave, smell like awesomeness"

01-05-2003, 08:54 PM	#8
Pacman GASE Totaled :( Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 37 Posts: 771 Vehicle: 2002 Acura RSX Type-S	anytime dave . i really want you guys to see this at the upcoming picnic (i mean it's only 5-6 months away ) but im looking forward to it. the power steering was the only drawback to having this. on the 2.4L, our powersteering is direct drive, meaning it runs directly off one of the cams. now, the pulley system is set to run off that, taking away energy. its not a terrible problem anymore, it used to be a lot worse, but the thing is finally breaking in __________________ Daniel R.I.P. 2000 2.4L Grand Am SE (2000- 12/11/2004)

01-05-2003, 09:06 PM	#9
Doug Hairdryer Power Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dublin, OH Age: 36 Posts: 623 Vehicle: 2000 SE-T	Very cool Pacman. I'm jealous that you have boost before me Can't wait to see the car in person at GAP. __________________ http://www.n-body.net/registry/yeahdoug/ 2000 Grand Am SE1 ex-turbo 1987 Supra Turbo 5 spd Targa 14.2 @100 with only I/E

01-06-2003, 12:05 PM	#12
wink EVILRED 99GT AKA: kevin Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 40 Posts: 29 Vehicle: 99 Grand Am GT sedan	nice work can't wait to pull up next to you at the light. __________________ wink ; > MY CAR

01-06-2003, 04:28 PM	#14
MetaGTP1 Guest Posts: n/a	My last dyno from Nov. '01 was: 190.3 Hp 203.1 lb/ft Torque 244.0 Hp 260.4 lb/ft at crank(22% drivetrain losses) I will be at the dyno again in a week or 2. I have not dyno'd since I installed the RT downpipe and the 2.5" SC pulley. It should be interesting.

01-06-2003, 04:58 PM	#15
Pacman GASE Totaled :( Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 37 Posts: 771 Vehicle: 2002 Acura RSX Type-S	dyno results. here is a zoomed in portion of it __________________ Daniel R.I.P. 2000 2.4L Grand Am SE (2000- 12/11/2004)

01-06-2003, 05:02 PM	#16
Pacman GASE Totaled :( Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 37 Posts: 771 Vehicle: 2002 Acura RSX Type-S	ok and here is the line graph and full dyno chart. i went over it in red marker cause it doesnt show up well at all on the computer. i really need to get a new scanner edit: kman, how much psi are you running with the new pulley? i asked if i could get a smaller one installed, but the shop wouldnt do it because there is a good chance the belt could slip. right now i am running an 8 lb pulley and running just over 6 psi at this elevation (5000 ft). i am still working on that video too. i guess i have hotmail and wont let me send anything over 1 MB wtf . do you guys know where i can host at a website for .mov? i've tried to find converters too and still no luck. everything is mpg!!! __________________ Daniel R.I.P. 2000 2.4L Grand Am SE (2000- 12/11/2004) Last edited by Pacman; 01-06-2003 at 05:08 PM.

01-06-2003, 05:17 PM	#17
Doug Hairdryer Power Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dublin, OH Age: 36 Posts: 623 Vehicle: 2000 SE-T	Hey can you get a pic of the oil tap please. THanks Hmm the a/f looks like you went lean on the top end. But maybe you left off. I can't tell when its in spd not rpm. __________________ http://www.n-body.net/registry/yeahdoug/ 2000 Grand Am SE1 ex-turbo 1987 Supra Turbo 5 spd Targa 14.2 @100 with only I/E

01-06-2003, 08:45 PM	#19
Gavster The VR6 will eat YOU Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Burque, NM Posts: 9 Vehicle: 1997 VR6 Jetta	Kman...Where me and pacman live the altitude has as large of an effect as drivetrain loss. Therefore he is making even more crank horsepower...i calculated it out to be more of a 30-35 percent loss from the crank to the wheel. I think i remeber getting something like 234-244ish crank. His car is quick regardless. __________________ "Have you ever dreamt you were a surgeon and you forgot what you were doing?" - Pacman2309

01-06-2003, 08:46 PM	#20
Pacman GASE Totaled :( Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 37 Posts: 771 Vehicle: 2002 Acura RSX Type-S	10 lbs! that is crazy boost i wish my charger could make that. doug, i was running lean on the top end. they wanted me to purchase a fuel pressure regulator for my car so it runs a little more rich. btw, i sent some pics of the oil tap to your email . i still need to post that video too! tonight i will try my best. edit: any recommendations to sites? the videos i have are 4-5 MB each and hotmail only lets me send just over 1 MB and yahoo only 3 MB __________________ Daniel R.I.P. 2000 2.4L Grand Am SE (2000- 12/11/2004) Last edited by Pacman; 01-06-2003 at 08:53 PM.

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