okay stereo guys answer this if you can

[CUSTOMGAGT2000SEDAN]

i have as you know a 2000 gagt. with the ususal cd player in the deck with multi adjustable eq. i do not have that added cassette piece that is separately placed next to cigarette lighter. for the rear speakers they pound .

from what my gm dealer can me only , it appears the rear speakers have a 2 connection setup versus for 2001 to 2004 that have a single connection. but are they the same speaker as far as watts etc etc. i my self can not hear any difference when i compare my car sound with a 2003 monsoon ( marked ) system.

[Mendoza]

So whats your question? Why do the speakers sound the same but wired diffrently? one input is for the low pass freq which is your sub sound and the other is for your tweeter.

[MIAaron]

The 99-00 premium system sounds a LOT different that the monsoon. The 99-00 has a ton more bass output due to the EQ, while the monsoon has much better midrange and clarity.

[CUSTOMGAGT2000SEDAN]

hi mendoza thanks for you imput. i was told by some one that the rear speakers are a 2 component type speaker consisting of a sub sound and a midrange sound.

it was not mentioned there was a tweeter or tweeter sound from the backs. and yes one do my speakers sound like the 2001 onward gagt rear speakers yet be coneected diferently ??

and MIAaron thanks also. the idea of more bass is always good aspecially were music now days has so much bass in it .

so do you folks know if they are the exact same speaker and same watts wise ? but they just changed the way they now get connected. and why would they go with a single connection in 2001 onward ?

[iceman]

I don't think the 99-00 speakers are biamped while 2001+ monsoon are.. Not the same speakers.. Whats your question??? stop being vague

[CUSTOMGAGT2000SEDAN]

hi iceman . what is biamped mean? is that good or bad , i guess in my case or setup ?

i meant are the speakers he gagt and the newer gagt speakers the same watts / output / same power etc just that they have a different / newer way of being connected to the rest of the stereo system. . as mentioned i can not tell the difference by listening to both groups ( newer factory rear speakers versus my older factory rear speakers ) .

i know the gagt decks have change a few times from 1999 to 2004 and that from 2001 the systems say monsoon on the deck face as well as it is written on ( slighly larger for 2001 to 2004 ) rear amp in the inner wheel well.

[iceman]

Biamped speakers just mean that one amplifier drives the low frequencies, and another drives the mid and highs... in the monsoon case, the same physical amplifier just different output channels.

It's not necesarily good nor bad, though in general, a biamped setup will sound better over passive crossover / one amp systems. In cars though, there's not too much of a sound or cost difference any more. if you get in to PA/theater/home, that's a different story

[MIAaron]

The 99-00 are biamped as well.

[iceman]

All 99-00, or just the "premium sound" ??

[MIAaron]

I know the premium does, and I can only guess all of them do. If you disconnect the premium amp the speakers function but with less bass response, which sounded exactly like the standard system with the identical radio. I didn't look at the speaker terminals on the standard system to verify though.

[iceman]

Yeah, I'll have to talk to someone w/ the manuals.. I only have '01. I'll get back to this thread

[MIAaron]

http://www.grandamgt.com/part_numbers/page16.jpg

That shows different part #'s between rear speakers in 99-02, 99-00 sub, and 01-03 sub.

The only thing I can remember that would lead be to believe they are different besides different part #'s is people claiming these pioneer speakers that were on clearance at partsexpress weren't to our cars. I bought a few pairs of them and they were indeed identical to my premium system rears. Not only where the part numbers identical, but they even came with the mounts that attach to our rear deck. I don't know if they are identical to other GM vehicles as well, but they were to my 00 GA.

[CUSTOMGAGT2000SEDAN]

i have not looked on that website yet . are you say that the 2000 gagt rear speakers are actuall made by pioneer. the guy up here who does atleast on the stereo repairs for the gm dealers is from a well known car stereo place. he mentioned to me they were a delco brand rear speakers .

so you say the gagt for 2000 has a biamped system . so should i look for a second amp ? if there is one it must be in the other inner rear wheel well ??? if i find another then i have a biamp system correct ?

and that even thow the rear speakers have change from two connection to one they are equal in watts and power etc ?

[MIAaron]

I can't verify that pioneer made them, but it wouldn't be suprising if pioneer OEM'd them for delco. Just like Onkyo makes a crapload of ford speakers.

ICEMAN said that the newer ones had two connections as well. So either the guy at the dealership looked up the wrong part number, or he looked up the part number of the rear speaker and it only has one connection.

What is the point of all of this anyways?

[CUSTOMGAGT2000SEDAN]

i am trying to find out if my 2000 gagt rear speakers are the exact same , you know as powerfull or same type of speakers that are found in gagt from 2001 upward. or in a sence do i have wimper rear speakers.

the car stereo guy said he looked up or went by a part number for 2001 gagt car's and turns out they are a single connection to install . he said mine were 2 connections . and were done as 2 connection for atleast the 2000 gagt year. he did not say that these 2 connection speakers were on 1999 gagt's .

long and short for us 1999 to 2000 gagt owners that want to keep for now our factory stereo systems , there seems to be little to no detail info on them. unlike the 2001 upward that have the clearly marked monsson systems .

even the car brouchures do not mention as muchabout the stereo systems for those 2 years .

[Mendoza]

My 2001 had two terminals and it was a Monsoon. Just go with the same speakers. Your not going to get any more or less quality going with an oem speaker. If you really want some clean 6x9's go with some aftermarket and a cheap amp. The hole combo will only cost you 150 and up.

[CUSTOMGAGT2000SEDAN]

i would say after looking at that page 16 . looks like there are rear speakers for ga's ( mybe fore the none gt cars ) .

then there are what they ( call ) subwoofers for 99-01 then 01-03.
although we really do not have a actual separte subwoofer . that it's possible they could be the same powerfull rear speakers in all the gt years 99 to 2004 . but just with different part numbers because of the changes to the connections.

but that there seems to be only one amp for all years 99 to 2003 etc. but with that huge difference in that old price . there must bea huge difference in there power or amps etc of the amps.

as said i do know the physical size of the amp from 2001 to 2003 is a bit larger then 99 to 2000. and maybe it is so different because of the many added features and changes they made to the deck from 2001 to 2004.

just some guessing on my part . trust me guys a i wrote gm canada and they new less then you guys .

[CUSTOMGAGT2000SEDAN]

i would like to go with the monsoon factory rear speakers . but it is yet to be determined if that is what i already have or not . maybe back then they just did not mark it as monsoon but they still use the same power of rear speaker???

all i know is the 2001 rear speakers they ordered in had a single connection , not dual connection, so they could not be used .

by the sounds of my ( not marked as a monsoon system ) and the systems marked monsoon they sound the same . but only test that out once . my ears besides being too big might not have picked up on the difference if there was any. keep pounding away at it guys . thanks

[CUSTOMGAGT2000SEDAN]

the crampy only 2000 ga brouchure i ever foound and have is a simple 3 page fold out. does not tell you much AT ALL about the options offer on the 2000 model ga's . not anywhere close to the 2001 and after brouchures with the detail and multi pages . it mentions se1 page with am/fm delco deck with cd + shows photo of that deck and you see the mutli adjustable eq.

then gt page mentions premium sound system + shows same deck as se1 but with the optional ( separately mounted ) cassette piece .

then the gt1 page shows same photo of same deck and ( separatly mounted ) cassete piece as gt page still describe as premium and the stereo buttons on steeering wheel..

my gt has this > am/fm/cd/ multi adjustable 7 button eq> no separately mounted cassette . i count 6 speakers.

but i count these same 6 speakers on all the monsoon years of ga's also. and i still think i get the same pounding sound from my rears as do the monsoon marked ga owners . but i might be wrong there.

update i found some info on interenet that may be correct . that for 2000 the gt came with am/fm/cd/ 7 band eq/ cassette opitional/ and 6 SPEAKER HIGH PERFORMANCE sound system. now if true how does it compare to the monsson system that they say is 8 speaker system, not actaully 8 speakers of course. if you got the 2000 GT1 you got steering wheel stereo controls and again the same 6 speaker high performance souns system. what would my vin number tell me if i had someone on this sight run it ???

[Mendoza]

If you have two terminals on your 6x9's you have a factory amplifer. Pull back the drivers side trunk liner and you will see the amp mounted to a thin piece of sheet metal. See if it says monsoon. If it doesn't just get factory replacements for that year. I have a feeling your making this alot harder then it is.