cheapest most dependable new car?

[Intuit57]

Hi all,

A 16 yr old girl driving her daddy's big new Dodge lost control and slammed into my drivers side and totalled my car! It sucks even more b/c I'm so broke right now... we had lots of miles on the GA and will not get much $$$ for it...so, any ideas on what kind of Cheap new car I can get? I don't mind the looks/features of the Cobalt..but is it reliable? (my '99 GA was kind of a lemon..so I'm afraid of GM) I'd hate to be stuck with an Accent or a Focus... any help?

[gaowners32]

why does it HAVE to be new? Why not used certified? Check out toyota or scion even the volkswagon rabbit. I wouldnt go american anything if your going to buy new.

[Sleepwalkr]

Spoken like a guy who knows absolutely nothing about newer American cars.

[bigbenSC]

If you want the cheapest new cars out there I would check out the Chevy Aveo (new for '07), Hyundai Accent, Kia Rio, Suzuki Reno, Toyota Yaris, and Scion xA are about the cheapest new cars you can get. Of those I would recomend either the Yaris or Aveo. Honestly though, I'd take a 2 year old Civic over any of those for similar or less money.

[nascarnate326]

Originally Posted by Sleepwalkr

Spoken like a guy who knows absolutely nothing about newer American cars.

Very well put.

All 2007 Cobalts have the new 100k warenty. My freind has a 2006 and loves it. Shes got 42k on it with no problems. You could probally get a 2006 right now very cheap, yet still "new"
Your grand am could have been a lemon because of the way it was made, and because with the sheer number of Grand Am's LCR made every day. Bound to have some bad ones when its the best selling car for GM. Besides LIM mine was almost problem free. Check out the Cobalt, or G5. G5 has a nice int, for an economy car.
Check insurance too. Id replace my car with a cobalt in an instant. I want the SS/SC version though.

Used would be good too.

[Mike Jung]

Originally Posted by bigbengt67

If you want the cheapest new cars out there I would check out the Chevy Aveo (new for '07), Hyundai Accent, Kia Rio, Suzuki Reno, Toyota Yaris, and Scion xA are about the cheapest new cars you can get. Of those I would recomend either the Yaris or Aveo. Honestly though, I'd take a 2 year old Civic over any of those for similar or less money.

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[LoboMan7409]

I would recommend the G5, it is the pontiac version of the cobalt and much nicer IMO

[timberwoof]

I might step on some toes here, but I like the Scion TC. There are a lot of things you can do with them and you can get a used one for cheap.

[Ajaxus]

cheap=honda/hyundai

[Roush GT]

Originally Posted by timberwoof

I might step on some toes here, but I like the Scion TC. There are a lot of things you can do with them and you can get a used one for cheap.

agreed, me and my fiance were really considering 1. becareful though I've seen some dealers try to sell these used for what you can get a new 1 for

[Lash]

Originally Posted by Sleepwalkr

Spoken like a guy who knows absolutely nothing about newer American cars.

A rule of thumb is to never buy an American car new. Mostly because they'll lose the most value as soon as you drive them off the lot. I know more than a handful of people who buy nothing but American cars....but have a hard time trying to get themselves to buy one brand new. If you want to piss money away....go for it. American cars hold the least resale value....so unless you're going to keep the car forever...buy new may not be the best idea.
Besides that...some of their new car prices are just ridiculous.

[Sleepwalkr]

A rule of thumb? For something to be a rule of thumb, there has to at least be people doing that something. More people buy brand new American cars than any other car.

Besides, its the thinking "American cars have no resale value" that keeps American cars with lower resale value. American cars are just as good as any other car nowadays. 10 years ago that wasn't true, but today it is.

Example; my buddy has a 2001 Honda Accord coupe with 105,000 miles on it. His car has a lot of options, I don't know if its completely loaded, but its close. He took his car to a local dealership and they told him they'd give him $4600 for it on a trade in. I took my 2000 GAGT coupe with 101,000 miles on it to that same dealership, and they said they'd give me $4100 for it, plus my cars paint job is a wreck right now. Its half in primer, and the rest has the clearcoat sanded off. They said we'd talk about raising that amount if I had it painted.

[Lash]

*sigh*

[rocketfast123]

You can get a fleet taurus for the low. 9k or less at most places. Point A to B car.

[gagt88]

if u want to get a cheap new car i would go wit an aveo lt for a car thats less then 15k it has a decent interior awsome gas mileage and i mean there cant be that much things that could go wrong wit it its not a real complex car but hey thats just me

[notsoaveragej0e]

Originally Posted by Sleepwalkr

A rule of thumb? For something to be a rule of thumb, there has to at least be people doing that something. More people buy brand new American cars than any other car.

Besides, its the thinking "American cars have no resale value" that keeps American cars with lower resale value. American cars are just as good as any other car nowadays. 10 years ago that wasn't true, but today it is.

Example; my buddy has a 2001 Honda Accord coupe with 105,000 miles on it. His car has a lot of options, I don't know if its completely loaded, but its close. He took his car to a local dealership and they told him they'd give him $4600 for it on a trade in. I took my 2000 GAGT coupe with 101,000 miles on it to that same dealership, and they said they'd give me $4100 for it, plus my cars paint job is a wreck right now. Its half in primer, and the rest has the clearcoat sanded off. They said we'd talk about raising that amount if I had it painted.

Divisions of GM have been beating Lexus, Honda, Toyota and every other company for the past couple years. Their quality is on or above par with everyone else, so buying a new American car will not lose as much resale value as anything else.

As another example, my dad bought a brand new loaded 2006 Tahoe, and turned around and sold it 6 months later for what he paid for it.

[Lash]

Originally Posted by notsoaveragej0e

Divisions of GM have been beating Lexus, Honda, Toyota and every other company for the past couple years. Their quality is on or above par with everyone else, so buying a new American car will not lose as much resale value as anything else.

Got information proving this? Besides GM's SUV and Truck line.

You do realize American car companies got their @$$'s whooped the first half of this year...right?

Just like to throw one other thing out there...

Profitability Per Vehicle Sold Before Taxes
1-3. Nissan, Toyota, Honda $1,200
4. DaimlerChrysler $223
5. Ford -$590
6. GM -$2,496


GM does not have to sell a crap load of cars...but they do. Their prices more than make up for any difference....
They need to change the way they do business....or an end is inevitable. Their trucks and SUV's are the only thing saving them.

Read the 4th paragraph..
http://www.nwcn.com/sharedcontent/au...s.a70cb02.html


And any dealer that would give $4100 for a 101,000 miled GA thats 1/2 primerd is just retarted and unheard of. There must have been some 'other' deals going on to have gotten it that high...I'm guesing they'd hardly budge on the car you were buying....therefore making the deal look good by jacking up your trade. Just ask ANYBODY else on here who has ever tried to trade in their GA.

I traded my wifes MINT loaded Alero GL with just under 91k on the clock for $3100. And that was pushing it. Most other places didnt want to go over $2700....much less even screw with it cause they are so damn hard to get rid of.

[gagt88]

And any dealer that would give $4100 for a 101,000 miled GA thats 1/2 primerd is just retarted and unheard of. There must have been some 'other' deals going on to have gotten it that high...I'm guesing they'd hardly budge on the car you were buying....therefore making the deal look good by jacking up your trade. Just ask ANYBODY else on here who has ever tried to trade in their GA.








i got a 99 red gt i was thinkin about trading it in for a 03 black gtp they wanted to give me 5k for it and it had 100k on it at the time

[GregFarz78]

Originally Posted by Sleepwalkr

A rule of thumb? For something to be a rule of thumb, there has to at least be people doing that something. More people buy brand new American cars than any other car.

Besides, its the thinking "American cars have no resale value" that keeps American cars with lower resale value. American cars are just as good as any other car nowadays. 10 years ago that wasn't true, but today it is.

No its still true today just do some research on the internet not many american cars have good residual value. Buying any american car brand new is stupid...get one 1-2 years old so someone else takes the 10k depreciation hit. I'm not saying they're all crap but dont buy one brand new unless you plan to keep it 5+ years.

But honestly if I were in his situation I would get a pre-owned especially if you dont have much money, why buy a POS when you can get a better car for less only thing is its slightly used.

[Intuit57]

Thanks everyone! The Scion is not available in Canada...sad to say. As stupid as many of you think it is..I'm so tempted to get a Cobalt LT w/sport package(sunroof, spoiler etc) brand new! The best price the sales guy(s) had for me over email was Canadian $20,753. Also, tomorrow there's some new promo where you get between $500 & 25,000 off your purchase...maybe I'll be lucky?

P.S. Insurance is giving us $4300(including tax) for our '99 GA w/213kms(Canadian). I'm happy they're buying it from us b/c it was needing 2 hub assemblys replaced, the ignition and abs stuff!