My 3D Grand Am GT Model - Page 4

xero152 · 12-29-2006, 01:40 AM

GREAT! work man. u know ur sh*t.

lightningGA · 12-29-2006, 10:17 AM

WOW....amazing work!!!!!!!!

Hodge · 12-29-2006, 01:12 PM

that is fricken sweet man.

lastyear4gt · 12-29-2006, 04:28 PM

Thats pretty awesome, im impressed!

RunAboveIt · 12-29-2006, 10:46 PM

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4...itled18fs5.jpg

Almost done on the front bumper, just a little bit around the fog light, the license plate area cover with "pontiac" on it (almost forgot), and some proportion adjustments here and there.

GTplaya02 · 12-29-2006, 10:54 PM

wow, that looks hot man...great job, gottta have real patience with those programs, frustrates the hell outta me sometimes..We going to be seeing some modded GA's too? Body kit, Altezzas, hood?

.. keep up the good work man.

timberwoof · 12-30-2006, 04:46 AM

Its lookin good.

RunAboveIt · 12-31-2006, 07:37 PM

Shazam!

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7...itled19ie9.jpg

... Almost 2007! Have a happy new year all!

01-01-2007, 05:57 PM

That looks great. Keep us updated with your progress.

ryanbgb22 · 01-01-2007, 06:46 PM

wow it's really coming along.

blkgagt · 01-01-2007, 09:34 PM

Ya, it is looking really good, keep it up!!

R.C.

LoboMan7409 · 01-02-2007, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5-lO

You are a god among men. If you end up getting this isnt a game, I may have to buy the console and game that contains it.

times 2 man, coming along great

BlackAttackGA · 01-03-2007, 10:01 PM

That's awesome!

Exodus · 01-03-2007, 10:41 PM

Nice, but why does it look like its wrinkled?

RunAboveIt · 01-03-2007, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodus

Nice, but why does it look like its wrinkled?

It's called "normals" in the 3d modeling scene. It's something that I'm going to adjust once the model is done so it looks smoother. The sides need the most work right now.

pauljs75 · 01-25-2007, 07:38 PM

It's looking good from the start, and I was going to ask if you had any top-down views as the plans available from SMcars.net for the GAGT are so-so if not outright yucky. (Not to mention they call the SE a GT. I suppose the trim differences are a bit subtle if you don't know the car.) Still, fuzzy/pixelated plans are better than no plans or trying to tile pictures in such a way to get rid of perspective distortion.

But I see that you're completely missing the centerline curvature of the front windshield/rear windshield. (The front and rear windshield bow from the middle and have some kind of compound curvature to them. They're tricky like that. You've got the side-view curvature right though.) The bumpers needs a little bit of top-down-view love as well. (But it's much less glaring.) At least I can't fret too much about not having the top-down view myself, as I can see the result of the same problem in your model. Regardless, it'd be a good idea to go and tweak those areas by eyeballing it to make the car right. (Of course if you licked this problem, then you're ahead of me. The vantage point of the most recent shaded render doesn't show these problem areas.)

I started on a similar kind of project (for artistic rendering rather than in game) but got sidetracked with other stuff, not to mention I was holding out for a top-down view so I could get the curvatures of those aforementioned parts just right. Anyhow, my process is backwards from yours (I block out first, then breakdown to parts/details by cutting polys/smoothing) as that's the nature of box modeling via Wings3d. Regardless of process, all the principles of polygon modeling still apply. My avatar shows about where I left off.

jscarano13 · 01-25-2007, 07:50 PM

any updates?

pauljs75 · 01-25-2007, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodus

Nice, but why does it look like its wrinkled?

Quote:

It's called "normals" in the 3d modeling scene.

No, they're not normals. All polygons have normals if they have a surface contained by edges. A normal is the outward facing surface that a projection ray (or something like that) interacts with when rendering.

Those wrinkles are called shading artifacts, which caused by non-planar polygons. (Also called 'non-planar normals', not just 'normals', perhaps this is what causes confusion?) This is always a potential problem when working with n-gons (polygons with 5+ sides) and quads (4 sided polygons), as they are split into tris (3 sided polygons) when actually rendered.

There are a few ways to fix this. Tighten/average vertices, inflate, smooth/subdivide (if mesh isn't dense), or work with tris (quads still tend to be better to work with than tris for other reasons in 3D modeling.)

Just had to clarify, before there ends up being a some confused 3D newbs because they end up calling shading artifacts 'normals'.

---- edit ----

Heheh... I was thinking of a car related analogy for how someone could confuse 'normals' in 3D...

Say some guy named Booie-booie from a island where there are no wheels comes to America. One day someone points at some car with flat tires and says, "OMG! Look at those tires!" Now without knowing the semantic specifics, Mr. Booie-booie goes around thinking that a flat-tire has the same meaning as a tire. So one day Mr.Booie-booie gets flats from running over something with his car and says "I have tires on my car, could you help?" Odds are pretty good that someone is either going to look at him funny or laugh.

RunAboveIt · 01-26-2007, 06:28 AM

I can't wait to get back to working on this guys, I have been so busy with work tho. I will soon...

And thanks for the pointers...

Exodus · 01-26-2007, 08:05 AM

What programs do you use?

12-29-2006, 01:40 AM	#61
xero152 GAGT - Member AKA: John Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Saint Louis Missouri Age: 33 Posts: 54 Vehicle: a spaceship...	GREAT! work man. u know ur sh*t. __________________ http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1...mavitarms1.gif

12-29-2006, 10:17 AM	#62
lightningGA Bagged and Boosted!! AKA: Paul Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Saratoga, NY area Age: 47 Posts: 1,424 Vehicle: Boosted 00 GA	WOW....amazing work!!!!!!!! __________________ CARDOMAIN Not updated in forever!!! XCLUSIVE Car Club Eaton SUPER CHARGED!!!!!

12-29-2006, 01:12 PM	#63
Hodge Chrome Wheel Lover AKA: CK Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 1,496 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am Se	that is fricken sweet man. __________________ 2000 Grand Am SE

12-29-2006, 04:28 PM	#64
lastyear4gt GAGT - Member AKA: Kevin Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Whitby, Ontario Age: 40 Posts: 966 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am GT	Thats pretty awesome, im impressed! __________________ "Bottles are for babies, real men get blown!" 1/4 Mile 14.48 @ 95.33 MPH SC/T concept replica under construction! Canada's only TRUE SC/T! http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2316217/1

12-30-2006, 04:46 AM	#67
timberwoof Law Dawg AKA: Cody Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portland Tx Posts: 1,827 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am SE1	Its lookin good. __________________ Mods: Sways, F-STB, Dr. Speed Stage 2 w/ box, Rear Disk Conversion, drilled rotors, steel braided lines, 180* T-Stat.

12-29-2006, 10:46 PM	#65
RunAboveIt GAGT - Member AKA: Cody Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Las Vegas, Nevada Age: 32 Posts: 48 Vehicle: 01 Oldsmobile Alero GL	http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4...itled18fs5.jpg Almost done on the front bumper, just a little bit around the fog light, the license plate area cover with "pontiac" on it (almost forgot), and some proportion adjustments here and there.

12-29-2006, 10:54 PM	#66
GTplaya02 2002 GT AKA: Mike Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Livonia, MI Posts: 133 Vehicle: 2002 Grand am GT Coupe	wow, that looks hot man...great job, gottta have real patience with those programs, frustrates the hell outta me sometimes..We going to be seeing some modded GA's too? Body kit, Altezzas, hood? .. keep up the good work man.

12-31-2006, 07:37 PM	#68
RunAboveIt GAGT - Member AKA: Cody Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Las Vegas, Nevada Age: 32 Posts: 48 Vehicle: 01 Oldsmobile Alero GL	Shazam! http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7...itled19ie9.jpg ... Almost 2007! Have a happy new year all!

01-01-2007, 05:57 PM	#69
00 GA GT Guest Posts: n/a	That looks great. Keep us updated with your progress.

01-01-2007, 09:34 PM	#71
blkgagt 99BLKGAGT Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fulton Missouri Age: 32 Posts: 76 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Coupe	Ya, it is looking really good, keep it up!! R.C.

01-03-2007, 10:01 PM	#73
BlackAttackGA Proud GA Owner AKA: Miles Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Twinsburg, OH Posts: 469 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE Sedan	That's awesome! __________________ THE Ohio State University "Time and change will surely show, How firm thy friendship...OHIO!"

01-03-2007, 10:41 PM	#74
Exodus Down Rodeo AKA: Minchione Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marlboro/LBI, NJ Age: 39 Posts: 1,734 Vehicle: 12 Altima \| 08 TL/S	Nice, but why does it look like its wrinkled? __________________ Choices always were a problem for you. What you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow, What you need is someone strong to use you —Opiate, T O O L

01-25-2007, 07:38 PM	#76
pauljs75 GAGT - Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Waukegan IL Posts: 134 Vehicle: 2001 Grand AM GT Sedan	It's cool, but there's something to fix still It's looking good from the start, and I was going to ask if you had any top-down views as the plans available from SMcars.net for the GAGT are so-so if not outright yucky. (Not to mention they call the SE a GT. I suppose the trim differences are a bit subtle if you don't know the car.) Still, fuzzy/pixelated plans are better than no plans or trying to tile pictures in such a way to get rid of perspective distortion. But I see that you're completely missing the centerline curvature of the front windshield/rear windshield. (The front and rear windshield bow from the middle and have some kind of compound curvature to them. They're tricky like that. You've got the side-view curvature right though.) The bumpers needs a little bit of top-down-view love as well. (But it's much less glaring.) At least I can't fret too much about not having the top-down view myself, as I can see the result of the same problem in your model. Regardless, it'd be a good idea to go and tweak those areas by eyeballing it to make the car right. (Of course if you licked this problem, then you're ahead of me. The vantage point of the most recent shaded render doesn't show these problem areas.) I started on a similar kind of project (for artistic rendering rather than in game) but got sidetracked with other stuff, not to mention I was holding out for a top-down view so I could get the curvatures of those aforementioned parts just right. Anyhow, my process is backwards from yours (I block out first, then breakdown to parts/details by cutting polys/smoothing) as that's the nature of box modeling via Wings3d. Regardless of process, all the principles of polygon modeling still apply. My avatar shows about where I left off.

01-25-2007, 07:50 PM	#77
jscarano13 Carbon Fiber mmmmmm AKA: Justin Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cicero, NY Age: 39 Posts: 558 Vehicle: 07 Scion tC	any updates?

01-26-2007, 06:28 AM	#79
RunAboveIt GAGT - Member AKA: Cody Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Las Vegas, Nevada Age: 32 Posts: 48 Vehicle: 01 Oldsmobile Alero GL	I can't wait to get back to working on this guys, I have been so busy with work tho. I will soon... And thanks for the pointers...

01-26-2007, 08:05 AM	#80
Exodus Down Rodeo AKA: Minchione Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marlboro/LBI, NJ Age: 39 Posts: 1,734 Vehicle: 12 Altima \| 08 TL/S	What programs do you use? __________________ Choices always were a problem for you. What you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow, What you need is someone strong to use you —Opiate, T O O L

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