LIM gasket change walkthrough

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I'm getting ready do do mine soon. But I found this at AZ Felpro part#MS98003T

Permadryplus premium problem-solving gaskets designed to address sealing problems Features advanced technology impervious to coolant / oils. Set includes Permadry valve cover gasket(s) Supplied with one valve cover gasket due to an OE service procedure stipulating removal of one valve cover to replace both intake gaskets.


States that it only comes with one valve cover gasket. Is it possible to remove the LIM without removing both covers?

[gectek]

o also wush....put plenty of rtv above where you highlighted on the head to make sure it seals on that area good, i am talking about the area where it goes to a point above the valley area

well how do you disconnect the part with the nut on it?

im thinking of making a trip to a junkyard around here and snagging all the parts i broke. i know a junkyard where the guys shouldnt rip you off that badly for the parts you need if you take it off the car yourself.

Edited for moral value.. aheehee

[gectek]

im getting lost, are you talking about the fuel pressure regulator? if so just use 2 wrenches

[black05GT]

so you're gonna just steal what you need ? You haven't learned, have you ?

Originally Posted by black05GT

so you're gonna just steal what you need ? You haven't learned, have you ?

How about you mind your own business? This post has nothing to do with you and isn't a moral discussion, thanks.

Originally Posted by gectek

im getting lost, are you talking about the fuel pressure regulator? if so just use 2 wrenches

No, I'm talking about the part that the Fuel Return Line nut is ATTATCHED to.

In the picture below the nut that won't thread into the fuel rail is circled in white. I'm referring to the part it's attatched to since that nut does not come off and you have to replace that whole part...correct?

[angrysk8r]

Another thing you can try is to lube it up with engine oil and try to get it into the fuel rail. Make sure you're pushing it in straight however or it'll never go in.

[gectek]

correct, i think it goes into a rubber hose somewhere down the line, if so then it would disconnect there and thats what you replace. but i would try tapping the threads first, also you might just have to take the fuel rail and get a tap for it, i am not sure but it might be an AN style thread

and yah, make sure you lube it up good, but i would suggest vaseline not motor oil, and also make sure it is pressed in the line frist before you tighten it up, or else it wont go in. if the threads look ok, then it is prob just binding on something, it was hard as hell for me to get out the first time, and it was just as hard getting it back in, but shove it in all the way before you even thread the nut back in the line

[gectek]

also dont go back with the dexcool, i would suggest using the yellow mulitpurpose stuff, better and doesnt make the glue crap

I purchased Prestone Extended Life 50/50 Antifreeze. Fuk dexcool heh.

Im gonna try lubing it, but one thing, do tap kits change sizes or you have to buy a certain size?

[angrysk8r]

It will slightly change the size you'll need. Avoid doing that If at all possible, but if worse comes to worse you may have to. Although, you should be able to get a good deal at the junk yard (I got a basically brand new fuel rail and FPR for about $30, and they said they'd throw in the injectors for $5 a piece!).

im looking at the fuel return line, and i followed it as far as i could see. It looks like it goes down then turns towards the driver side then dissapears into the firewall. I dont see any point where you can disconnect it???

ehhhh what do i do, and i also cant find this part on any part store...just the rail that it screws into with injectors. its called the fuel feed line

[angrysk8r]

You disconnect the feed line where the hard line enters the rubber line.

I couldn't find the fuel rail either when I looked around at parts stores. I went to a GM dealer and they were going to charge me several hundred for the fuel rail (which is COMPLETE BS...screw dealerships). After I searched around a bit I ended up going to the junk yard which ended up being one of the better decisions I had made. You should also be able to get a fuel feed line from there as well for cheap.

Yea it's not the return line it's the FEED line. Like I said in the image you posted for your walkthrough the bolt that is screwed up is circled in WHITE. Not the other one.

[angrysk8r]

Ah nvm, I had my lines switched around....time to edit the walkthrough. It still doesn't really change what I've said however.

ohhh.. so it is the fuel return line?

I searched on google and typed in 99 grand am fuel feed line and came up with forum posts of people who cut the hose part of it and then clamped a custom pipe and bolt end onto it. I honestly cannot figure out how this part disconnect. I see where the metal meets the rubber but it isnt clamped on, it looks like the rubber is part of the piping..Its like Pipe =====[]Rubber-------[]Pipe====

No clamps just the [] is a cylinder type thing that doesnt look like it comes apart. Im sure its not very odd for that bolt thread to strip so there has to be a easy way to replace just that sector of the piping....ANYONE?

[gectek]

you could flare it but good luck on that one, if you wanna do it stock looking, an ISO flare is a PITA, or just go to a boneyard and see if they have what u are looking for. also go to the dealer and see if the pipe comes in sections, if it does then there is a way to take it apart. usually the easiest way is the best

[BHermis]

I had the same problem with the threads and i did try lubing it with oil but that didn't work either. I disconnected the vertical nut and then pulled the injectors out of their seats and then just lined the screw up and threaded it about 3 turns. I then put the injectors back in and then tighten the vertical nut. That worked for me. Make sure to wipe off the threads before you put them in because if you have been screwing it alot there is going to be shavings there.

Now my problem! I think I am missing a part. Is there a 90 degree bend that goes into the front valve cover on the drivers side? It goes from a large vertical hole in the valve cover to a horizonal plastic hard tube.

Oh and how do i upload pictures?

[angrysk8r]

I looked in the haynes manual and it said there is a special tool needed to remove those fittings without cutting them.

I took a picture of the page and uploaded it Here (Read under "Fuel lines and fittings - repair and replacement" and "Flexible hose").

Ive gotten the nut to thread in about halfway, or atleast it feels stiff and threaded. then it just spins on the same thread and if i pull on it it just comes out as if i never threaded it at all. heh and now one of the times pulling it out the oring shot off and it fell somewhere down in the drivers side. I looked under the car and it didnt fall through so I guess its not gonna be found.


I knew that this job went too smoothly, so here comes the problems. Blehhhhh!