GAGT vs Cobalt SS - Page 9

SpyhunteR · 01-02-2006, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xonelith

I hope to change that this spring

I have things up my sleeves too... don't worry... I'm not laying on my back on this one... we have some new toys to play with.

AaronGTR · 01-03-2006, 04:29 PM

Yeah, well ya'll better just watch out for me!

j/k just kiddin... I don't have money left right now to keep dumping into the engine, and I doubt with my current setup I'll be catching up to Todd and Pat any time soon. Hopefully with a little tuning and dyno time next spring though I'll be back in the upper half of the list.

Blight · 01-05-2006, 04:48 PM

back on driving other peoples cars, at the 1/8 mile races one day my friend wanted me to race him in my GT against his Monte, so i gave it my best shot, and i lost to him in my car

Its fun to drive the older cars but i couldnt sport one.

Blight · 01-05-2006, 04:50 PM

(edit button not working) He was driving my car and i was driving his car so i lost to him by my own ride. Ive beaten myself.

MzLady · 01-27-2006, 07:43 PM

I've been reading all the posts on this topic, and its a good topic by the way, and its got me thinking even more about gettin rid of my 99 gagt and gettin a cobalt.

my boyfriend works at the gm plant in lordstown, ohio where the cobalts are built. he's built them and driven them. He wasnt able to drive a SS because they didnt make it automatic at the time ( he cant drive manual ). His exact words to me were " Stock vs stock, u would blow a gasket b4 u would beat a cobalt." A bit of an exaggeration maybe but basically he says a grand prix gt let alone a grand am gt couldnt beat a cobalt.

SpyhunteR · 01-27-2006, 07:54 PM

LSJ yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum

SpyhunteR · 01-27-2006, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Yeah, well ya'll better just watch out for me!

j/k just kiddin... I don't have money left right now to keep dumping into the engine, and I doubt with my current setup I'll be catching up to Todd and Pat any time soon. Hopefully with a little tuning and dyno time next spring though I'll be back in the upper half of the list.

good luck.... my ride is locked in the garage, and I can't pull it out to do any work... (house remodel *tears*)

lastyear4gt · 02-17-2007, 03:36 PM

Here's one to ponder, Magnacharged GAGT with a few supporting mods against a cobalt SS with CAI. Or same GAGT against a cobalt stage 2 with CAI.

Will find out April 7/07.

Blackrider · 02-17-2007, 04:47 PM

If the First SS is supercharged I'll put my money on it hands down. And even more so with the second one.

Granted your running a smaller pully but you dont even have headers.

SpyhunteR · 02-17-2007, 05:04 PM

I haven't seen a fast cobalt ss yet... :-p

mr_eh · 02-17-2007, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastyear4gt

Here's one to ponder, Magnacharged GAGT with a few supporting mods against a cobalt SS with CAI. Or same GAGT against a cobalt stage 2 with CAI.

Will find out April 7/07.

*NEWS FLASH*

cobalts are easily into the 13s with basic bolt on bull****

how many people have had trouble getting into the 13s with just a blower?

Top Boosted ET's:
1) N2O-OLDS - 13.838 @ 98.09 MPH - timeslip
2) IrateWS6 - 14.01 @ 96.85 MPH - timeslip
3) Rydog - 14.141 @ 101.40 MPH - timeslip (+ Nitrous)
4) deek00 - 14.19 @ 97.19 MPH - timeslip
5) Jaketuff - 14.34 @ 93.38 - no slip
6) AaronGTR - 14.46 @ 94.14 MPH -no slip
7) aleroboy - 14.618 @ 93.93 MPH - timeslip
8) Deek00 - 14.792 MPH @ 96.13 MPH - timeslip
9) KmanGT1 - 14.82 @ 93.30 MPH -no slip
10) AMRAAM4 - 14.93 @ 89.88 MPH -no slip

those people... and those arent people who dont know about cars either...

theres one gagt in the 12s with numerous mods...

and a grand am se that already is pushing for 11s...

superchargers can only do much, they've been maxed out ten fold

go turbo or be happy with mediocrity

Gold99HO · 02-17-2007, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_eh

*NEWS FLASH*

cobalts are easily into the 13s with basic bolt on bull****

how many people have had trouble getting into the 13s with just a blower?

Top Boosted ET's:
1) N2O-OLDS - 13.838 @ 98.09 MPH - timeslip
2) IrateWS6 - 14.01 @ 96.85 MPH - timeslip
3) Rydog - 14.141 @ 101.40 MPH - timeslip (+ Nitrous)
4) deek00 - 14.19 @ 97.19 MPH - timeslip
5) Jaketuff - 14.34 @ 93.38 - no slip
6) AaronGTR - 14.46 @ 94.14 MPH -no slip
7) aleroboy - 14.618 @ 93.93 MPH - timeslip
8) Deek00 - 14.792 MPH @ 96.13 MPH - timeslip
9) KmanGT1 - 14.82 @ 93.30 MPH -no slip
10) AMRAAM4 - 14.93 @ 89.88 MPH -no slip

those people... and those arent people who dont know about cars either...

theres one gagt in the 12s with numerous mods...

and a grand am se that already is pushing for 11s...

superchargers can only do much, they've been maxed out ten fold

go turbo or be happy with mediocrity

mahahahahah .....

why cant we call just get along

95-GT · 02-17-2007, 06:00 PM

I'd say the SRT-4; hands down.

Sprucegagt · 02-17-2007, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_eh

*NEWS FLASH*

cobalts are easily into the 13s with basic bolt on bull****

how many people have had trouble getting into the 13s with just a blower?

Top Boosted ET's:
1) N2O-OLDS - 13.838 @ 98.09 MPH - timeslip
2) IrateWS6 - 14.01 @ 96.85 MPH - timeslip
3) Rydog - 14.141 @ 101.40 MPH - timeslip (+ Nitrous)
4) deek00 - 14.19 @ 97.19 MPH - timeslip
5) Jaketuff - 14.34 @ 93.38 - no slip
6) AaronGTR - 14.46 @ 94.14 MPH -no slip
7) aleroboy - 14.618 @ 93.93 MPH - timeslip
8) Deek00 - 14.792 MPH @ 96.13 MPH - timeslip
9) KmanGT1 - 14.82 @ 93.30 MPH -no slip
10) AMRAAM4 - 14.93 @ 89.88 MPH -no slip

those people... and those arent people who dont know about cars either...

theres one gagt in the 12s with numerous mods...

and a grand am se that already is pushing for 11s...

superchargers can only do much, they've been maxed out ten fold

go turbo or be happy with mediocrity

Yet every single person in that list ran those numbers untuned. I'm sure if all the guys in that list were properly tuned, you would see most of those times drop into the 13 sec. range.

mr_eh · 02-17-2007, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sprucegagt

Yet every single person in that list ran those numbers untuned. I'm sure if all the guys in that list were properly tuned, you would see most of those times drop into the 13 sec. range.

properly tuned meaning what?

were these cars running rich/lean?

Snowboardr18 · 02-17-2007, 10:21 PM

I can tell you from experience, the Cobalt SS will beat a stock GAGT

GrandAmGT1996 · 02-17-2007, 10:29 PM

No offense Ryan, but thats pretty much common sense

Sprucegagt · 02-18-2007, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_eh

properly tuned meaning what?

were these cars running rich/lean?

Meaning using proper tuning software instead of just getting a quick dyno tune. You have to remember, the PCM is setup for N/A usage, not boost. When you throw boost into the mix it changes the stock tune alot.

AaronGTR · 02-18-2007, 08:31 AM

Yeah, that list is really old and out of date. It doesn't even list Pat's times he when he still had just the blower and he was running 13's as were several others. Almost everyone on that list was running stock pcm and stock injectors. Couple of them were in colorado too (high altitude). A lot of them were even running stock pulley's and no headers either. They were basically bolt on the blower and go... and anyone who thinks bolting on a blower and going from low 16's/high 15's down to mid 14's isn't a good gain is an idiot.

Fact is even a few NA cars now that have good supporting mods with injectors and tuning are running low 14's and one is running 13.9's. The SC'd cars are capable of running low 13's, and with a better blower they could be running 12's.

mr_eh · 02-18-2007, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

Yeah, that list is really old and out of date. It doesn't even list Pat's times he when he still had just the blower and he was running 13's as were several others. Almost everyone on that list was running stock pcm and stock injectors. Couple of them were in colorado too (high altitude). A lot of them were even running stock pulley's and no headers either. They were basically bolt on the blower and go... and anyone who thinks bolting on a blower and going from low 16's/high 15's down to mid 14's isn't a good gain is an idiot.

Fact is even a few NA cars now that have good supporting mods with injectors and tuning are running low 14's and one is running 13.9's. The SC'd cars are capable of running low 13's, and with a better blower they could be running 12's.

i've seen stock v6 se's go 15.2 so please dont tell me that gt's are going from low 16s/high 15s down to mid 14s...

the sc'd cars are capable of running low 13s? where? whose done it?

01-03-2006, 04:29 PM	#162
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Yeah, well ya'll better just watch out for me! j/k just kiddin... I don't have money left right now to keep dumping into the engine, and I doubt with my current setup I'll be catching up to Todd and Pat any time soon. Hopefully with a little tuning and dyno time next spring though I'll be back in the upper half of the list. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

01-27-2006, 07:43 PM	#165
MzLady GAGT - Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Warren, OH Age: 39 Posts: 35 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Coupe	stock vs stock I've been reading all the posts on this topic, and its a good topic by the way, and its got me thinking even more about gettin rid of my 99 gagt and gettin a cobalt. my boyfriend works at the gm plant in lordstown, ohio where the cobalts are built. he's built them and driven them. He wasnt able to drive a SS because they didnt make it automatic at the time ( he cant drive manual ). His exact words to me were " Stock vs stock, u would blow a gasket b4 u would beat a cobalt." A bit of an exaggeration maybe but basically he says a grand prix gt let alone a grand am gt couldnt beat a cobalt.

01-27-2006, 07:54 PM	#166
SpyhunteR #1 hater AKA: Rob Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas Age: 38 Posts: 4,968 Vehicle: 01' 2.4T GA / 08 TBSS	LSJ yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum __________________ Hey kids going to Vegas? Let me help you help me help you! Shoot me an email or PM for all your Vegas Night Club bottle hallucinations & strip club desires! FACEBOOKFACE! "Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you."

02-17-2007, 03:36 PM	#168
lastyear4gt GAGT - Member AKA: Kevin Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Whitby, Ontario Age: 40 Posts: 966 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am GT	Here's one to ponder, Magnacharged GAGT with a few supporting mods against a cobalt SS with CAI. Or same GAGT against a cobalt stage 2 with CAI. Will find out April 7/07. __________________ "Bottles are for babies, real men get blown!" 1/4 Mile 14.48 @ 95.33 MPH SC/T concept replica under construction! Canada's only TRUE SC/T! http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2316217/1

02-17-2007, 04:47 PM	#169
Blackrider Ifeast Upon The Weak AKA: Jordie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Victoria B.C. Age: 36 Posts: 3,048 Vehicle: 06 GTP 6Speed	If the First SS is supercharged I'll put my money on it hands down. And even more so with the second one. Granted your running a smaller pully but you dont even have headers. __________________ 60DegreeGTP Last edited by Blackrider; 02-17-2007 at 04:51 PM.

01-05-2006, 04:48 PM	#163
Blight GAGT - Member AKA: John Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 367 Vehicle: SC'd 3.4 '00GT & 99 SE	back on driving other peoples cars, at the 1/8 mile races one day my friend wanted me to race him in my GT against his Monte, so i gave it my best shot, and i lost to him in my car Its fun to drive the older cars but i couldnt sport one.

01-05-2006, 04:50 PM	#164
Blight GAGT - Member AKA: John Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 367 Vehicle: SC'd 3.4 '00GT & 99 SE	(edit button not working) He was driving my car and i was driving his car so i lost to him by my own ride. Ive beaten myself.

02-17-2007, 05:04 PM	#170
SpyhunteR #1 hater AKA: Rob Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas Age: 38 Posts: 4,968 Vehicle: 01' 2.4T GA / 08 TBSS	I haven't seen a fast cobalt ss yet... :-p __________________ Hey kids going to Vegas? Let me help you help me help you! Shoot me an email or PM for all your Vegas Night Club bottle hallucinations & strip club desires! FACEBOOKFACE! "Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you."

02-17-2007, 06:00 PM	#173
95-GT Slow 5.0 AKA: David Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Heights, MI Age: 36 Posts: 2,365 Vehicle: 89 5.0 Mustang LX	I'd say the SRT-4; hands down.

02-17-2007, 10:21 PM	#176
Snowboardr18 Trans Am WS6 AKA: Ryan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mt. Airy, MD Posts: 249 Vehicle: 2003 Grand Am GT	I can tell you from experience, the Cobalt SS will beat a stock GAGT

02-18-2007, 08:31 AM	#179
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Yeah, that list is really old and out of date. It doesn't even list Pat's times he when he still had just the blower and he was running 13's as were several others. Almost everyone on that list was running stock pcm and stock injectors. Couple of them were in colorado too (high altitude). A lot of them were even running stock pulley's and no headers either. They were basically bolt on the blower and go... and anyone who thinks bolting on a blower and going from low 16's/high 15's down to mid 14's isn't a good gain is an idiot. Fact is even a few NA cars now that have good supporting mods with injectors and tuning are running low 14's and one is running 13.9's. The SC'd cars are capable of running low 13's, and with a better blower they could be running 12's. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

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