Crunch Audio

cardude007617 · 02-20-2007, 05:14 PM

hey-
a freind of mine bought some new 12" Crunch Ground Pounder subs and luvs them so far. says it makes his old (good stuff still) sound like tweeters

. so, have any of u bought their stuff and is it good?
thanks

here is the page that they are on:
http://www.maxxsonics.com/crunch/GP_subs.html

more in-depth:
http://www.maxxsonics.com/crunch/GP_subs_details.htmland

sound_xtreme · 02-20-2007, 05:23 PM

theyre really not that bad anymore. aint the best, but theyre still cheap too

cardude007617 · 02-20-2007, 05:29 PM

what does that mean? 12" GPs go for 330 each (i can get em for like ~100).
then wat other brand should i go with? keep in mind im 17 and i want a lotta bang for "no" buck?

pece

cardude007617 · 02-20-2007, 08:49 PM

so wat do u all think about the Crunch subs

cardude007617 · 02-20-2007, 10:58 PM

ok screw crunch stuff, i heard him wrong. wat u guys think of MTX subs? or other brands that are good bass for the money?

notsoaveragej0e · 02-20-2007, 11:51 PM

MTX has been around for some time, I had a friend with some in his trunk- they are probably some of the best bang for your buck out there, I would say a definite "starter" sub

Metallman56 · 02-21-2007, 07:13 AM

i'm not a big fan of MTX. i just dont like the way there subs sound. if you really want some "bang for the buck" i'd start off with some Pioneer Premier 3000SPL's off ebay, for about $100 a pop. or some Image Dynamic subs. either one will do ya right.

MIAaron · 02-21-2007, 08:03 AM

http://www.tcsounds.com/

All are a pretty good deal right now, but the db500 12's for $75 will be hard to beat on a budget.

They have a bunch of subs on sale right now. Go to their forums and you'll find people that have first hand experience with the product, and can help you with a nice ported box design.

Metallman56 · 02-21-2007, 09:32 AM

hows the SQ on TC sounds, Miaaron?

MIAaron · 02-21-2007, 10:12 AM

I've used older tc9's, the tc-1000, and tc-2000. All have been stellar performers. TC sounds has been an OEM since the 80's, but only started selling direct recently. They know what they're doing and have provided woofers for many very well regarded companies.

I put a tc-2000 into a 214L enclosure tuned to 15hz with a kilowatt on tap. The person I built it for kept giggling like a little girl when I fired it up. He's now trying to figure out how to keep his silverware drawer from making so much noise....and his wife is worried that it's causing structural damage to the house. When low bass scenes hit, like those in the War of the Worlds remake, you can feel the subsonics flexing the floor of his living room.

nascarnate326 · 02-21-2007, 10:16 AM

I have Alpine Type R 12, and I love it. 900 way Rockford amp thats pretty good. My car pounds. I just got out of two MTX 10's and they were pretty good. Alpine though, is my personal fav right now.

cardude007617 · 02-21-2007, 01:59 PM

grrrrrr this is confusing

. im on a moderate budjet. like 110 a sub or like everything (box and subs) for 300 is ok i mean i can spend a little more if its gonna help alot. i luv bass for rap, theres no other way to listen to rap personally than with monster bass going on. so yea and reccomendations?

cardude007617 · 02-21-2007, 02:35 PM

wat do u guys think of MMATS subs? im not talking the real expensive PROFESSIONAL **** but like the normal stuff? the P2.0 or P2.5 or i guess P3.0 if theres not a huge price difference

Metallman56 · 02-22-2007, 07:25 AM

honestly, before yesterday i had never heard of TC Sounds. but for $120, and 24 mm of xmas, i doubt your going to find a sub to move more air for that price. IMO thats insane, and i would really like to hear one.

MIAaron · 02-22-2007, 08:15 AM

The only thing with the tc1000 is that it idealy is meant for a ported enclosure. Either that or some big power and EQ contouring in a sealed box...

What does that $300 budget cover? Amp, subs & box, or just subs & box? Are you capable of making your own box?

cardude007617 · 02-22-2007, 01:58 PM

well a box is like 30-50 bucks. all just absorb that and not put it in the budget. but, like id like to keep it under 450 for amp/subs (12" inches) and i can get a Monster Cable off ebay for like 50 so take that off the top too.

Metallman56 · 02-22-2007, 02:16 PM

if i were you i wouldnt just go in a store and buy any ole box. i'd make or have made a custom box built to the specs of the sub or subs. you sub is only going to be as good as the box you put it in. so box specs are very important.

cardude007617 · 02-22-2007, 02:25 PM

right, im getting my subs first so i know wat kind/size of box to get. wat do u think of MMATS audio's P2.0 line? and id prbly just get a 1500w RF amp for them

Metallman56 · 02-23-2007, 07:20 AM

ive never heard any MMATS, but just by looking at the specs, i think those TC-1000's would blow this woofer away.

MIAaron · 02-23-2007, 08:54 AM

mmats used to make descent spl stuff back in the late 90's, but I havn't heard any of their recent stuff.

The problem with the tc1000's is that his budget for the box probably isn't gonna cut it. The only way he is gonna get a box for $30-50 is if it's sealed, which I would avoid with them unless he wants to try a linkwitz transform...but that isn't something I would recommend to a noob.

02-20-2007, 05:14 PM	#1
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	subs hey- a freind of mine bought some new 12" Crunch Ground Pounder subs and luvs them so far. says it makes his old (good stuff still) sound like tweeters . so, have any of u bought their stuff and is it good? thanks here is the page that they are on: http://www.maxxsonics.com/crunch/GP_subs.html more in-depth: http://www.maxxsonics.com/crunch/GP_subs_details.htmland __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru. Last edited by cardude007617; 02-25-2007 at 09:04 PM. Reason: MMATS

02-20-2007, 05:23 PM	#2
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02-20-2007, 05:29 PM	#3
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	what does that mean? 12" GPs go for 330 each (i can get em for like ~100). then wat other brand should i go with? keep in mind im 17 and i want a lotta bang for "no" buck? pece __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-20-2007, 08:49 PM	#4
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	so wat do u all think about the Crunch subs __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-20-2007, 10:58 PM	#5
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	ok screw crunch stuff, i heard him wrong. wat u guys think of MTX subs? or other brands that are good bass for the money? __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-20-2007, 11:51 PM	#6
notsoaveragej0e Causes a ruckus AKA: Joe Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Detroit, MI Age: 34 Posts: 5,011 Vehicle: Maligoat	MTX has been around for some time, I had a friend with some in his trunk- they are probably some of the best bang for your buck out there, I would say a definite "starter" sub __________________

02-21-2007, 07:13 AM	#7
Metallman56 Bears Fan AKA: Metall Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 36 Posts: 3,856 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt coupe	i'm not a big fan of MTX. i just dont like the way there subs sound. if you really want some "bang for the buck" i'd start off with some Pioneer Premier 3000SPL's off ebay, for about $100 a pop. or some Image Dynamic subs. either one will do ya right. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/209706...am?action=demo So you proved your point about the camaro - condense your sig. - Your friendly Administration

02-21-2007, 08:03 AM	#8
MIAaron GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Shelby Township, MI Posts: 584 Vehicle: 2000 GT Coupe	http://www.tcsounds.com/ All are a pretty good deal right now, but the db500 12's for $75 will be hard to beat on a budget. They have a bunch of subs on sale right now. Go to their forums and you'll find people that have first hand experience with the product, and can help you with a nice ported box design.

02-21-2007, 09:32 AM	#9
Metallman56 Bears Fan AKA: Metall Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 36 Posts: 3,856 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt coupe	hows the SQ on TC sounds, Miaaron? __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/209706...am?action=demo So you proved your point about the camaro - condense your sig. - Your friendly Administration

02-21-2007, 10:12 AM	#10
MIAaron GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Shelby Township, MI Posts: 584 Vehicle: 2000 GT Coupe	I've used older tc9's, the tc-1000, and tc-2000. All have been stellar performers. TC sounds has been an OEM since the 80's, but only started selling direct recently. They know what they're doing and have provided woofers for many very well regarded companies. I put a tc-2000 into a 214L enclosure tuned to 15hz with a kilowatt on tap. The person I built it for kept giggling like a little girl when I fired it up. He's now trying to figure out how to keep his silverware drawer from making so much noise....and his wife is worried that it's causing structural damage to the house. When low bass scenes hit, like those in the War of the Worlds remake, you can feel the subsonics flexing the floor of his living room.

02-21-2007, 10:16 AM	#11
nascarnate326 Honda CRF 450 AKA: Nathan Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 34 Posts: 1,188 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Prix GT	I have Alpine Type R 12, and I love it. 900 way Rockford amp thats pretty good. My car pounds. I just got out of two MTX 10's and they were pretty good. Alpine though, is my personal fav right now. __________________ "We've got lots of letters from Windows users that say iTunes is their favorite program. Its like giving a glass of water to someone in hell" - Steve Jobs

02-21-2007, 01:59 PM	#12
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	grrrrrr this is confusing . im on a moderate budjet. like 110 a sub or like everything (box and subs) for 300 is ok i mean i can spend a little more if its gonna help alot. i luv bass for rap, theres no other way to listen to rap personally than with monster bass going on. so yea and reccomendations? __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-21-2007, 02:35 PM	#13
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	wat do u guys think of MMATS subs? im not talking the real expensive PROFESSIONAL ** but like the normal stuff? the P2.0 or P2.5 or i guess P3.0 if theres not a huge price difference __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.**

02-22-2007, 07:25 AM	#14
Metallman56 Bears Fan AKA: Metall Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 36 Posts: 3,856 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt coupe	honestly, before yesterday i had never heard of TC Sounds. but for $120, and 24 mm of xmas, i doubt your going to find a sub to move more air for that price. IMO thats insane, and i would really like to hear one. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/209706...am?action=demo So you proved your point about the camaro - condense your sig. - Your friendly Administration

02-22-2007, 08:15 AM	#15
MIAaron GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Shelby Township, MI Posts: 584 Vehicle: 2000 GT Coupe	The only thing with the tc1000 is that it idealy is meant for a ported enclosure. Either that or some big power and EQ contouring in a sealed box... What does that $300 budget cover? Amp, subs & box, or just subs & box? Are you capable of making your own box?

02-22-2007, 01:58 PM	#16
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	well a box is like 30-50 bucks. all just absorb that and not put it in the budget. but, like id like to keep it under 450 for amp/subs (12" inches) and i can get a Monster Cable off ebay for like 50 so take that off the top too. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-22-2007, 02:16 PM	#17
Metallman56 Bears Fan AKA: Metall Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 36 Posts: 3,856 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt coupe	if i were you i wouldnt just go in a store and buy any ole box. i'd make or have made a custom box built to the specs of the sub or subs. you sub is only going to be as good as the box you put it in. so box specs are very important. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/209706...am?action=demo So you proved your point about the camaro - condense your sig. - Your friendly Administration

02-22-2007, 02:25 PM	#18
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	right, im getting my subs first so i know wat kind/size of box to get. wat do u think of MMATS audio's P2.0 line? and id prbly just get a 1500w RF amp for them __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-23-2007, 07:20 AM	#19
Metallman56 Bears Fan AKA: Metall Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 36 Posts: 3,856 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt coupe	ive never heard any MMATS, but just by looking at the specs, i think those TC-1000's would blow this woofer away. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/209706...am?action=demo So you proved your point about the camaro - condense your sig. - Your friendly Administration

02-23-2007, 08:54 AM	#20
MIAaron GAGT - Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Shelby Township, MI Posts: 584 Vehicle: 2000 GT Coupe	mmats used to make descent spl stuff back in the late 90's, but I havn't heard any of their recent stuff. The problem with the tc1000's is that his budget for the box probably isn't gonna cut it. The only way he is gonna get a box for $30-50 is if it's sealed, which I would avoid with them unless he wants to try a linkwitz transform...but that isn't something I would recommend to a noob.

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