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Old 03-01-2007, 11:19 AM   #61
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Having the battery in the trunk, I still have to install an emergency shutoff switch at the back of the car in case of some freak accident. NHRA rules.

I also have to get a fully sealed metal box w/ a vent of it going outside. It's a battery asploding issue since there's no firewall to protect a person. NHRA rule.

Helmet check!

I may need a firejacket depending on how much of a jerkoff the track officials are or aren't.

I know I probably need extended wheel studs at one point or another. I hate safety issues.
I don't have any problem with that at my track having my battery in the trunk. Emergency cut-off is only required in certain classes. If the battery is normally in the front those cars wouldn't have one anyway. Just because it's in the trunk doesn't mean it has to have a cut-off back there.

A sealed metal box will take care of exploding. If you have a gel-cell battery like an optima they don't vent so you don't need a vent. I didn't install mine.

Firejacket, gotta check track rules, but I HIGHLY doubt they will require one for a 12sec or high 11sec car. I've never heard of that until 10's or lower, just like a cage etc.
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:29 PM   #62
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I don't have any problem with that at my track having my battery in the trunk. Emergency cut-off is only required in certain classes. If the battery is normally in the front those cars wouldn't have one anyway. Just because it's in the trunk doesn't mean it has to have a cut-off back there.

A sealed metal box will take care of exploding. If you have a gel-cell battery like an optima they don't vent so you don't need a vent. I didn't install mine.

Firejacket, gotta check track rules, but I HIGHLY doubt they will require one for a 12sec or high 11sec car. I've never heard of that until 10's or lower, just like a cage etc.
implemented last year due to some import guys bursting into flames.
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I don't have any problem with that at my track having my battery in the trunk. Emergency cut-off is only required in certain classes. If the battery is normally in the front those cars wouldn't have one anyway. Just because it's in the trunk doesn't mean it has to have a cut-off back there.

A sealed metal box will take care of exploding. If you have a gel-cell battery like an optima they don't vent so you don't need a vent. I didn't install mine.

Firejacket, gotta check track rules, but I HIGHLY doubt they will require one for a 12sec or high 11sec car. I've never heard of that until 10's or lower, just like a cage etc.
it depends on what night you go. Like if I go on a typical sport compact night they tend to look away. They just require a helmet, appropriate wheel stud length and the basics. Aftermarket power adders per the NHRA book you have to have a fire retardant jacket.

NHRA rulebook also says that if the battery is relocated outside of the OEM, meaning factory, location it MUST have an external kill at the rearmost end of the vehicle. Some tracks are hard on this some aren't. LVMS isn't hard on certain things except when they feel like it, as well as on bigger events they're *******s about it.


here's an exerpt from firebird international in arizona.

Condensed Excerpts from the 2006 NHRA Rulebook:

The following information will get 99% of cars through Tech Inspection,
but there are always some things we can’t foresee. The purpose of Tech Inspection is to ensure your safety and the safety of spectators and race crew. Therefore, the Race Director’s decisions on Tech Inspection matters are FINAL!
1. Seat belts are required (even if your car is so old it didn’t come with belts) and must be securely/properly mounted. Seat belts must be worn when racing.
2. All windows must be present and in good condition (free of cracks). Cars must run with all windows up, sunroofs and T-tops closed. Convertibles must run with the top up. (Note: Convertibles running 13.99 or quicker must be equipped with an NHRA-legal five-point roll bar. Consult our Tech Crew.)
3. All automatic transmissions must have a functional neutral safety switch. Vehicle may only crank in Park or Neutral. (Note: an ignition kill switch is not enough. The starter must not function when the transmission is in gear.)
4. Doors handles must be functional, inside & out. “Shaved” door handles not permitted unless there is an obvious mechanical means for our safety crew to open the driver and front passenger doors from the outside.
5. Battery cannot be located in driver/passenger compartment (unless meeting all NHRA rules and requirements, consult the NHRA Rulebook or our Tech Crew) and the battery must be securely mounted. No bungee cords, fabric straps, wire, rope, Ty-Wraps, leather belts, etc., are acceptable in place of a proper mechanical battery hold-down.
6. Vehicles with batteries that are relocated from the stock location must have an external master cutoff switch on the outside rearmost portion of the vehicle. This switch must kill ALL electrical functions including the engine. The OFF position of this switch must be labeled for our safety crew. (There are additional requirements for relocated batteries. Please, before you relocate your battery, see our Tech Crew or the NHRA Rulebook for guidance.)
7. Cooling system must have an overflow catch bottle. If your coolant-recovery system is not factory-stock, then the catch bottle must be 16 ounces capacity, minimum.
8. Tires must be in good condition, with at least 1/16 inch of visible tread remaining and no cord showing. Slicks must have visible wear indicators showing.
9. Carburetor must be covered. If your vehicle has no hood, mechanical fan must be removed but electric fans are OK.
10. Helmets: Drivers of all vehicles running 13.99 or quicker, and ALL convertibles regardless of E.T., must wear an SFI-approved helmet with a Snell rating of 95 or newer. Passengers in convertibles running 14.00 and slower must also wear an approved helmet. (Note: DOT-only helmets are not permitted. SFI-approved helmets are not permitted if the Snell label inside the helmet is missing or illegible. In other words, a Snell-rating on the outside of the helmet is not good enough.)
11. All vehicles must have at least one working taillight, which must be ON for night racing and visible to the Starter from the turn-out at the far end of the track.
12. All hubcaps and trim rings must be removed, unless bolted on. If bolted on, the Tech Crew will ask you to remove one or more caps so wheel stud length may be checked. All wheel studs (not just on the drive wheels) must extend into the hex portion of the lug nut a distance equal to the diameter of the stud.
13. If your rear-wheel-drive vehicle is capable of running quicker than 13.00 in the quarter-mile, a driveshaft loop is required. Consult with our Tech Inspectors for specifics.
14. If your vehicle is capable of running quicker than 12.00 in the quarter-mile, please consult with our Tech Inspectors for additional safety equipment requirements.
15. No vehicle may be in motion with the hood up, whether under power or being pushed or towed. Please lower your hood for visibility when moving your vehicle.

For further information, come to the track and talk with our Tech Inspectors. They are here to help you safely enjoy the sport of drag racing. NHRA Rulebooks are on sale for $10.00; read the E.T. Bracket section and the General
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From NHRA rulebook.

BATTERIES:
Batteries must be securely mounted; may not be located in driver
compartment unless sealed off per General Regulations. See
General Regulations 8:1.
IGNITION:
Two steps, rev limiters, etc. permitted. Two steps, rev limiters, or
any other rpm-limiting device, legal unto themselves but altered
and/or installed so as to function as a downtrack rpm controller,
prohibited. See General Regulations 8:1, 8:3, 8:4, 8:5.
MASTER CUTOFF:
Mandatory on any car running 9.99 or quicker, or 135 mph or
faster, or on any car where battery is relocated to trunk area of
vehicle. See General Regulations 8:4.
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:10 PM   #65
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10:10 PROTECTIVE CLOTHING
Drivers are required to have as minimum requirements protective
clothing labeled as meeting the appropriate SFI Spec.
13.99 to 10.00; all E.T. non-OEM supercharged, non-OEM
turbocharged or nitrous-equipped cars with an OEM or 0.24-
inch steel firewall: Jacket meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/1 mandatory.
NHRA Helmet Expiration Dates
98 SECTION 11 - GENERAL REGULATIONS GENERAL
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Old 03-01-2007, 06:21 PM   #66
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Spy, what kind is that intercooler? How much did it cost? Do you have any pictures of how you installed it? My IC is pretty ineffective (temps go up a LOT under boost), and it hangs below the bumper quite a bit.

BTW, your car looks good, I like it. Still need engine bay pictures.
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intercooler is an ebay knock off spearco. I'll remove the bumper so you can get an idea. hit me up on AIM: MONKthe1 to remind me.
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intercooler is an ebay knock off spearco. I'll remove the bumper so you can get an idea. hit me up on AIM: MONKthe1 to remind me.
I don't have AIM, will PMs work? Thanks,
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Are you going to take out the indention in the doors??
they will be covered with GT sides.


I think spy hit gave enough info on the battery question. ive heard that my t-tops car counts as a convertible, so apparently, according to those rules, i would need a roll cage.
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From NHRA rulebook.

BATTERIES:
Batteries must be securely mounted; may not be located in driver
compartment unless sealed off per General Regulations. See
General Regulations 8:1.
IGNITION:
Two steps, rev limiters, etc. permitted. Two steps, rev limiters, or
any other rpm-limiting device, legal unto themselves but altered
and/or installed so as to function as a downtrack rpm controller,
prohibited. See General Regulations 8:1, 8:3, 8:4, 8:5.
MASTER CUTOFF:
Mandatory on any car running 9.99 or quicker, or 135 mph or
faster, or on any car where battery is relocated to trunk area of
vehicle. See General Regulations 8:4.
That's ghey. Why would a street car need a cut-off. The battery does the same thing whether it's in the engine compartment or the trunk. Sometimes I think those racing people are retarded.

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10:10 PROTECTIVE CLOTHING
Drivers are required to have as minimum requirements protective
clothing labeled as meeting the appropriate SFI Spec.
13.99 to 10.00; all E.T. non-OEM supercharged, non-OEM
turbocharged or nitrous-equipped cars with an OEM or 0.24-
inch steel firewall: Jacket meeting SFI Spec 3.2A/1 mandatory.
NHRA Helmet Expiration Dates
98 SECTION 11 - GENERAL REGULATIONS GENERAL
Again, ghey. What's the difference between a factory boosted and aftermarket boosted car? Either one is probably modified if they're racing at the track and either one is likely to blow up if somethings been improperly modded. Fire proof jacket for a 13.99 sec car? Why don't they just try a little harder to make racing unaffordable for the average joe so that even less people will go racing? As if drag racing and the nhra haven't already been going down the toilet the last ten years.
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That's ghey. Why would a street car need a cut-off. The battery does the same thing whether it's in the engine compartment or the trunk. Sometimes I think those racing people are retarded.



Again, ghey. What's the difference between a factory boosted and aftermarket boosted car? Either one is probably modified if they're racing at the track and either one is likely to blow up if somethings been improperly modded. Fire proof jacket for a 13.99 sec car? Why don't they just try a little harder to make racing unaffordable for the average joe so that even less people will go racing? As if drag racing and the nhra haven't already been going down the toilet the last ten years.
the battery master cutoff and the jacket issue are only enforced about half the time from what I've seen, but it also gives track officials an excuse when they think you're going too fast. We don't even enforce the helmet rule until you're in the mid-12's or a car they don't see very often here. Night I went 12.4 all I did was start at 12.8 and keep on going faster and faster and faster, then one of the guys told me. Hey buddy helmet time.

The jacket thing with aftermarket boosted cars I think is due to the fact that some import kiddie blew himself up and pulled a Ricky Bobby or something.

Big deal, my battery is going back under the hood anyway in an "oem" location and I'm wearing a suit of armor powdercoated pink. They won't have anything on me.
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