Weapon R "Secret Weapon" CAI

AnniversaryGT · 03-02-2007, 07:13 AM

"Sorry if this is in another thread..I searched w/ no results"

About a week ago I purchased a CAI from Weapon R, called a "Secret Weapon CAI". A couple of my friends and I took a couple hours and installed it...I was a little disappointed in that it looks more like a short ram intake. It went behind the battery and stopped; didn't go down by the fog light. So I have a few questions about it.

#1 Will it be ok to leave some of my stock intake beneath the battery and the piece by the grill that says "ram air by pontiac" to help direct more air to my filter?
The filter is a fairly large cone-shaped foam filter.
#2 I want a few opinions on performance...do you guys think this air flow is better than stock?

I drove it after we installed it; it sounds deeper, of course, and I jump off the start a bit better and maybe 1-2 mph faster in 1/4 mile, so I just want to know if these are "significant gains" for my CAI.

Thanks!

Exodus · 03-02-2007, 07:37 AM

The stock ram air does nothing, you'll get more use out of the CAI even though it adds like 2-5 hp and a deep note upon acceleration. Although, it is close to the engine so it would be sucking in warmer air than it would if it were closer to the fog lights. Just think of it this way, at least if there's a deep puddle you dont have to worry about sucking in water into your engine.

AnniversaryGT · 03-02-2007, 07:45 AM

Last night when we were installing it, we had no jacks or anything, so we were unable to take the stock assembly that's underneath the battery out...one of my friends said that it might be good to leave that part in so it would direct more airflow to the filter...?

lastyear4gt · 03-02-2007, 08:58 AM

Leaving the stock ducting there wont hurt anything, but IMO, the warm air intake that you installed (not cold air) if anything will hamper performance more than help it. With the stock intake system at least it was sealed from the hot air under the hood. FYI: Weapon R has is no longer around.

DrFabulous · 03-02-2007, 09:04 AM

1- I'd just take the plastic out. It's not routing any air up there there that's worth anything.

2- The airflow might be better, but it's negligable.

AnniversaryGT · 03-02-2007, 09:13 AM

See though it did seem to help my performance a bit...it has a better jump..or throttle responce is better I should probably say...even if it is "warm air"....can't argue with results...

coupe · 03-02-2007, 09:15 AM

Dont trust the ass dynoe

AnniversaryGT · 03-02-2007, 09:18 AM

I does have the two different paths of airflow and it says it's "Guaranteed to get 3 times more air" and faster at that...

AnniversaryGT · 03-02-2007, 09:20 AM

Even a friend of mine whom I have let drive my car on occasions says that he sees better throttle response..I might not go many mph's if any faster in a 1/4, but I get to my speeds quicker..."

coupe · 03-02-2007, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnniversaryGT

Even a friend of mine whom I have let drive my car on occasions says that he sees better throttle response..I might not go many mph's if any faster in a 1/4, but I get to my speeds quicker..."

That dosent make any sense, sounds like your ass dyno needs to be recalibrated.

Exodus · 03-02-2007, 09:22 AM

Bro, its your car, you know how it drives-if you feel like your getting a bit more power out of it then thats all that matters.
But some guys on here know alot, so Id take what they say into consideration.. then the rest is up to you.

Regardless of power, it does sound louder so, you did get something out of it.

AnniversaryGT · 03-02-2007, 09:29 AM

I need to try a dyno with stock airflow..then one with my aftermarket airflow...

AnniversaryGT · 03-02-2007, 09:29 AM

But I can feel more power out of it..don't know how, but there's a little more there, so I gonna leave it

lone_wolf025 · 03-02-2007, 09:43 AM

You're gonna get a little more power out of it but you're looking at only a few HP like Exodus said. You're "getting to speed faster" only because the engine doesn't have to work as hard to draw in air. Realistically if you did a dyno run the margin of error would cover up any real gains that you'd get from it. Just be happy with it and don't bother wasting your money on the dyno.

DrFabulous · 03-02-2007, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnniversaryGT

But I can feel more power out of it..don't know how, but there's a little more there, so I gonna leave it

It's your mind playing tricks. You know you spent money to make it faster, and now it's louder.... so it must be faster.

Trust me. While there MIGHT be some airflow gains, your car gained at most 1-2 hp.

AaronGTR · 03-02-2007, 10:15 AM

The problem is, it isn't designed for your car. That's why it's too short and doesn't go into the fender, so it isn't really a CAI. My advice... get things actually designed for your car instead of the cheap pep boys special.

SikMindz · 03-02-2007, 12:02 PM

You should get a Turbonator to complement your Secret Weapon.

notsoaveragej0e · 03-02-2007, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SikMindz

You should get a Turbonator to complement your Secret Weapon.

and teh whistletipz!

Exodus · 03-02-2007, 12:40 PM

. Oh man I wanted to shoot myself after seeing that video

AnniversaryGT · 03-02-2007, 12:58 PM

No, the intake I bought is custom fit for my car, even had the hole drilled to put my AIT sensor....and it's working well and my throttle response IS better, and it was hardly pep boys..it cost me 180 + tax.

But I have another question:

I also bought some spark plugs that are advertised to produce up to 12% more engine power..and they were $7 per plug, so it's believable..the thing is, I have stock plug wires. I plan to get them replaced soon, but I was curious if I would see any improvement with the plugs even though I have stock wires? Or could it hurt my engine at all?

03-02-2007, 07:45 AM	#3
AnniversaryGT Runnin Da Streets AKA: Justin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Golden, Mississippi Age: 32 Posts: 32 Vehicle: 01 GT Coupe 75thAniv.	Last night when we were installing it, we had no jacks or anything, so we were unable to take the stock assembly that's underneath the battery out...one of my friends said that it might be good to leave that part in so it would direct more airflow to the filter...? __________________ 2001 GT1 Coupe 75th Anniversary 2000 Se Sedan 1998 Nissan Sentra 1998 Nissan Maxima

03-02-2007, 08:58 AM	#4
lastyear4gt GAGT - Member AKA: Kevin Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Whitby, Ontario Age: 40 Posts: 966 Vehicle: 2004 Grand Am GT	Leaving the stock ducting there wont hurt anything, but IMO, the warm air intake that you installed (not cold air) if anything will hamper performance more than help it. With the stock intake system at least it was sealed from the hot air under the hood. FYI: Weapon R has is no longer around. __________________ "Bottles are for babies, real men get blown!" 1/4 Mile 14.48 @ 95.33 MPH SC/T concept replica under construction! Canada's only TRUE SC/T! http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2316217/1

03-02-2007, 09:04 AM	#5
DrFabulous FIGJAM AKA: Matt Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: MN Posts: 9,675 Vehicle: Acura\|Chevy\|Porsche	1- I'd just take the plastic out. It's not routing any air up there there that's worth anything. 2- The airflow might be better, but it's negligable. __________________ '18 Acura MDX Kid hauler '15 Chevrolet Tahoe Toy Hauler '01 Porsche Boxster Project

03-02-2007, 09:13 AM	#6
AnniversaryGT Runnin Da Streets AKA: Justin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Golden, Mississippi Age: 32 Posts: 32 Vehicle: 01 GT Coupe 75thAniv.	See though it did seem to help my performance a bit...it has a better jump..or throttle responce is better I should probably say...even if it is "warm air"....can't argue with results... __________________ 2001 GT1 Coupe 75th Anniversary 2000 Se Sedan 1998 Nissan Sentra 1998 Nissan Maxima

03-02-2007, 09:15 AM	#7
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	Dont trust the ass dynoe __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

03-02-2007, 07:13 AM	#1
AnniversaryGT Runnin Da Streets AKA: Justin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Golden, Mississippi Age: 32 Posts: 32 Vehicle: 01 GT Coupe 75thAniv.	Weapon R "Secret Weapon" CAI "Sorry if this is in another thread..I searched w/ no results" About a week ago I purchased a CAI from Weapon R, called a "Secret Weapon CAI". A couple of my friends and I took a couple hours and installed it...I was a little disappointed in that it looks more like a short ram intake. It went behind the battery and stopped; didn't go down by the fog light. So I have a few questions about it. #1 Will it be ok to leave some of my stock intake beneath the battery and the piece by the grill that says "ram air by pontiac" to help direct more air to my filter? The filter is a fairly large cone-shaped foam filter. #2 I want a few opinions on performance...do you guys think this air flow is better than stock? I drove it after we installed it; it sounds deeper, of course, and I jump off the start a bit better and maybe 1-2 mph faster in 1/4 mile, so I just want to know if these are "significant gains" for my CAI. Thanks! __________________ 2001 GT1 Coupe 75th Anniversary 2000 Se Sedan 1998 Nissan Sentra 1998 Nissan Maxima

03-02-2007, 07:37 AM	#2
Exodus Down Rodeo AKA: Minchione Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marlboro/LBI, NJ Age: 39 Posts: 1,734 Vehicle: 12 Altima \| 08 TL/S	The stock ram air does nothing, you'll get more use out of the CAI even though it adds like 2-5 hp and a deep note upon acceleration. Although, it is close to the engine so it would be sucking in warmer air than it would if it were closer to the fog lights. Just think of it this way, at least if there's a deep puddle you dont have to worry about sucking in water into your engine. __________________ Choices always were a problem for you. What you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow, What you need is someone strong to use you —Opiate, T O O L

03-02-2007, 09:18 AM	#8
AnniversaryGT Runnin Da Streets AKA: Justin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Golden, Mississippi Age: 32 Posts: 32 Vehicle: 01 GT Coupe 75thAniv.	I does have the two different paths of airflow and it says it's "Guaranteed to get 3 times more air" and faster at that... __________________ 2001 GT1 Coupe 75th Anniversary 2000 Se Sedan 1998 Nissan Sentra 1998 Nissan Maxima

03-02-2007, 09:20 AM	#9
AnniversaryGT Runnin Da Streets AKA: Justin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Golden, Mississippi Age: 32 Posts: 32 Vehicle: 01 GT Coupe 75thAniv.	Even a friend of mine whom I have let drive my car on occasions says that he sees better throttle response..I might not go many mph's if any faster in a 1/4, but I get to my speeds quicker..." __________________ 2001 GT1 Coupe 75th Anniversary 2000 Se Sedan 1998 Nissan Sentra 1998 Nissan Maxima

03-02-2007, 09:22 AM	#11
Exodus Down Rodeo AKA: Minchione Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marlboro/LBI, NJ Age: 39 Posts: 1,734 Vehicle: 12 Altima \| 08 TL/S	Bro, its your car, you know how it drives-if you feel like your getting a bit more power out of it then thats all that matters. But some guys on here know alot, so Id take what they say into consideration.. then the rest is up to you. Regardless of power, it does sound louder so, you did get something out of it. __________________ Choices always were a problem for you. What you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow, What you need is someone strong to use you —Opiate, T O O L

03-02-2007, 09:29 AM	#12
AnniversaryGT Runnin Da Streets AKA: Justin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Golden, Mississippi Age: 32 Posts: 32 Vehicle: 01 GT Coupe 75thAniv.	I need to try a dyno with stock airflow..then one with my aftermarket airflow... __________________ 2001 GT1 Coupe 75th Anniversary 2000 Se Sedan 1998 Nissan Sentra 1998 Nissan Maxima

03-02-2007, 10:15 AM	#16
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	The problem is, it isn't designed for your car. That's why it's too short and doesn't go into the fender, so it isn't really a CAI. My advice... get things actually designed for your car instead of the cheap pep boys special. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

03-02-2007, 12:40 PM	#19
Exodus Down Rodeo AKA: Minchione Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marlboro/LBI, NJ Age: 39 Posts: 1,734 Vehicle: 12 Altima \| 08 TL/S	. Oh man I wanted to shoot myself after seeing that video __________________ Choices always were a problem for you. What you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow, What you need is someone strong to use you —Opiate, T O O L

03-02-2007, 12:58 PM	#20
AnniversaryGT Runnin Da Streets AKA: Justin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Golden, Mississippi Age: 32 Posts: 32 Vehicle: 01 GT Coupe 75thAniv.	No, the intake I bought is custom fit for my car, even had the hole drilled to put my AIT sensor....and it's working well and my throttle response IS better, and it was hardly pep boys..it cost me 180 + tax. But I have another question: I also bought some spark plugs that are advertised to produce up to 12% more engine power..and they were $7 per plug, so it's believable..the thing is, I have stock plug wires. I plan to get them replaced soon, but I was curious if I would see any improvement with the plugs even though I have stock wires? Or could it hurt my engine at all? __________________ 2001 GT1 Coupe 75th Anniversary 2000 Se Sedan 1998 Nissan Sentra 1998 Nissan Maxima

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