'06 GTP versus '06 Cobalt SS/SC: Thoughts? - Page 5

Blackrider · 03-12-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ssilver

They are the same car with the same accessories.. how? besides the wing. I have a friend with a gt and its the exact same thing as my cobalt but much much slower. I saw a g5 the other day with a dealer installed ss/sc wing .. now that was horrible. I dont see how they are prericed either. Maybe the wing yeah.. but you can take that off.. the dealer even does it for you for free.

"HVAC controls for the Cobalt/G5 have a terrible mechanical feel to them"
Now you are just trying to find **** to bitch about? who gives a ****? You touch them for a total of 15 seconds a week. Different from any other GM car? NO

Exodus - The wing is more useful on an srt4 or accord???

... yeah
The wings on the cobalt grand am racing cars are functional.. and they are the same as the street cars... the wing .. frame.. block.. everything. So that makes in funtional right? The frame is an proven opel racing frame.

sorry ill stop defending my car now.. should have known better that reading a grand am forum!.. ahaha I thought I might have some respect from fellow GM fans but i guess not.. I get along better with the camaro and corvette crowd.

Blackrider said it best:
"Butttt if your happy with your car thats all that matters plain and simple!!"

Alright Mr Crazy man.

kse73 · 03-12-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ssilver

A - "HVAC controls for the Cobalt/G5 have a terrible mechanical feel to them"
Now you are just trying to find **** to bitch about? who gives a ****? You touch them for a total of 15 seconds a week. Different from any other GM car? NO

B - Exodus - The wing is more useful on an srt4 or accord???

... yeah
The wings on the cobalt grand am racing cars are functional.. and they are the same as the street cars... the wing .. frame.. block.. everything. So that makes in funtional right? The frame is an proven opel racing frame.

C - sorry ill stop defending my car now.. should have known better that reading a grand am forum!.. ahaha I thought I might have some respect from fellow GM fans but i guess not.. I get along better with the camaro and corvette crowd.

A - Some people like quality in their car. All around. People are making a large leap when buying a car as a substantial amount of money goes toward it every month for years. The interior is the part of the car that you're most exposed to on a daily basis. If something feels cheap in this particular setting, it has potential to make or break a deal.

B - Reread his post. He said nothing about function. He said it flows nicely with some cars; as in...the lines or contours of the car.

C - See ya.

bigbenSC · 03-12-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ssilver

"HVAC controls for the Cobalt/G5 have a terrible mechanical feel to them"
Now you are just trying to find **** to bitch about? who gives a ****? You touch them for a total of 15 seconds a week. Different from any other GM car? NO

I coud go on... cheap ass armrest (or complete lack there of), lack of real temperature gauge, 5 speed manual when the competition gives 6, 4 speed auto when the competition gives 5, unlockable glove box, no navigation option, no auto up windows.

It sounds like I'm nitpicking the car to death, but all these things deter me from buying the car when competitors offer them.

Edit: At least you don't own a Ford Focus or Dodge Caliber- then you'd REALLY hate me. Be glad you own the nicest American compact car.

ssilver · 03-12-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackrider

Alright Mr Crazy man.

How do you know my last name?

Blackrider · 03-12-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ssilver

How do you know my last name?

LOL, Lucky guess.

notsoaveragej0e · 03-12-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbengt67

no auto up windows.

I have complained to my dad about that all day- its a very easy option for GM to add, and it pisses me off that my gf's base model Jeep has auto up while my $30,000 G6 doesn't

I don't even know that my moms Escalade has auto up windows... sometimes its just like, "what the hell, GM?"

ssilver · 03-12-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbengt67

I coud go on... cheap ass armrest (or complete lack there of), lack of real temperature gauge, 5 speed manual when the competition gives 6, 4 speed auto when the competition gives 5, unlockable glove box, no navigation option, no auto up windows.

It sounds like I'm nitpicking the car to death, but all these things deter me from buying the car when competitors offer them.

Edit: At least you don't own a Ford Focus or Dodge Caliber- then you'd REALLY hate me. Be glad you own the nicest American compact car.

Who needs an armrest when you are in a manual? ss/sc is ONLY manual. on hand steering wheel one hand shifter.. navigation is an option.. ask for anything from a dealer and they will give it to you.. (usually in the ass) There is a temp gauge.. its digital.. Who needs 6th gear when 5th will get you 150+.. the 6th gear is not needed in the car. My windows are auto.. and they go up. hehe

Edit: Keep in mind i am talking about an SS/SC. They are quite a different car from regular cobalts. Ive driven cobalt rental cars for work and there is a MAJOR difference in quality of interior and overall feel.. I don't like regular cobalts and will agree with you its a cheap car. but yes much better than what they replaced.

cavingman · 03-12-2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by notsoaveragej0e

and it pisses me off that my gf's base model Jeep has auto up while my $30,000 G6 doesn't

Aaahhhhhh, and there it is. Only took 3 pages, but there it is.

And the arm rest thing... yea, kinda dumb on a manual.

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Originally Posted by bigbengt67

5 speed manual when the competition gives 6, 4 speed auto when the competition gives 5

gear ratios my freind. my redline has done 140, and I only slowed because I ran out of highway. this was next to a gtp btw. and I get well over 25mpg highway with some very spirited daily driving.

bballr4567 · 03-12-2007, 08:25 PM

Manual armrests FTW. Seriously I hate cruising with a buddy that doesnt have an armrest. Makes the whole ride feel weird.

BTW my friend has a 05 Lancer 5 spd and it has an armrest.

cavingman · 03-12-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bballr4567

Manual armrests FTW. Seriously I hate cruising with a buddy that doesnt have an armrest. Makes the whole ride feel weird.

BTW my friend has a 05 Lancer 5 spd and it has an armrest.

thats nice. does it come with pillows too?
wtf do you need an arm rest on a manual car for?

bballr4567 · 03-12-2007, 08:32 PM

To rest the arm when you are cruising the highway.

Oh for the other person in your front seat.

And IIRC the GTO comes with one and Mustangs do too.

Mirage85 · 03-12-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bballr4567

To rest the arm when you are cruising the highway.

Oh for the other person in your front seat.

And IIRC the GTO comes with one and Mustangs do too.

Most cars have an arm rest on a manual, they are just trying to make themselves feel better about getting ripped off by GM.... then again, well all got ripped off by them one way or another.

notsoaveragej0e · 03-12-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cavingman

Aaahhhhhh, and there it is. Only took 3 pages, but there it is.

I don't get it?

cavingman · 03-13-2007, 03:08 PM

30 g's for a grand am replacement.

bigbenSC · 03-13-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ssilver

Who needs an armrest when you are in a manual? ss/sc is ONLY manual. on hand steering wheel one hand shifter.. navigation is an option.. ask for anything from a dealer and they will give it to you.. (usually in the ass) There is a temp gauge.. its digital.. Who needs 6th gear when 5th will get you 150+.. the 6th gear is not needed in the car.

Really, if you were to go on a long road trip you wouldn't want an armrest?

Navigation is NOT an option on the Cobalt. OnStar turn by turn is not a navigation system...

A digital water temp gauge is not a real temp gauge- GM mad it digital to lower the cost of the interior. Thats the whole point of this discussion.

Every other "performance-economy" car offers a 6 speed transmission. Sentra Spec-V, MS 3, Civic Si, RSX-S (RIP). The only competitor that doesn't have a 6 speed is the old as dirt WRX- and that will change next year.

cavingman · 03-13-2007, 06:41 PM

The armrest discussion is stupid. You're trying to convince someone who regularly drives 10 hrs to michigan, then back, and this is the first time I've even thought about the arm rest. Not really looking to take a nap in the car or anything.

bballr4567 · 03-13-2007, 06:45 PM

Hmmmm Im sorry but im a big guy and I love me an armrest. If the car is that small that it doesnt have an armrest then I wont buy that car. Its just the breaking point for me. Like some people want a big glovebox or trunk for me its the armrest.

You still didnt counter his three other really valid points. Thats ok though just keep trying to convince me I dont need an armrest.

Rich · 03-13-2007, 06:53 PM

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showt...hlight=armrest

there. armrest. crisis averted.

bballr4567 · 03-13-2007, 07:03 PM

LMFAO!!!!

See how many of those guys are like "thank you soo much", "I need to find one bad," and my fav "this will be one of my first mods."

Exodus · 03-14-2007, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ssilver

Exodus - The wing is more useful on an srt4 or accord???

... yeah
The wings on the cobalt grand am racing cars are functional.. and they are the same as the street cars... the wing .. frame.. block.. everything. So that makes in funtional right? The frame is an proven opel racing frame.

They are useless, our cars are not fast enough to need a spoiler, not to mention they're not rear wheel drive. You dont need down pressure on the rear. Its there for aesthetics

03-13-2007, 03:08 PM	#94
cavingman Moderator AKA: Brendan Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 40 Posts: 3,772 Vehicle: 04 Saturn Ion Redline	30 g's for a grand am replacement. __________________ bleeehh....

03-13-2007, 06:41 PM	#96
cavingman Moderator AKA: Brendan Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 40 Posts: 3,772 Vehicle: 04 Saturn Ion Redline	The armrest discussion is stupid. You're trying to convince someone who regularly drives 10 hrs to michigan, then back, and this is the first time I've even thought about the arm rest. Not really looking to take a nap in the car or anything. __________________ bleeehh....

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03-12-2007, 08:25 PM	#89
bballr4567 GAGT - Member AKA: Josh Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 733 Vehicle: 09 Pontiac G8 GT	Manual armrests FTW. Seriously I hate cruising with a buddy that doesnt have an armrest. Makes the whole ride feel weird. BTW my friend has a 05 Lancer 5 spd and it has an armrest.

03-12-2007, 08:32 PM	#91
bballr4567 GAGT - Member AKA: Josh Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 733 Vehicle: 09 Pontiac G8 GT	To rest the arm when you are cruising the highway. Oh for the other person in your front seat. And IIRC the GTO comes with one and Mustangs do too.

03-13-2007, 06:45 PM	#97
bballr4567 GAGT - Member AKA: Josh Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 733 Vehicle: 09 Pontiac G8 GT	Hmmmm Im sorry but im a big guy and I love me an armrest. If the car is that small that it doesnt have an armrest then I wont buy that car. Its just the breaking point for me. Like some people want a big glovebox or trunk for me its the armrest. You still didnt counter his three other really valid points. Thats ok though just keep trying to convince me I dont need an armrest.

03-13-2007, 06:53 PM	#98
Rich Moderator AKA: Rich Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toledo, OH Age: 36 Posts: 4,513 Vehicle: 2001 2.4 Grand Am	http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showt...hlight=armrest there. armrest. crisis averted.

03-13-2007, 07:03 PM	#99
bballr4567 GAGT - Member AKA: Josh Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 733 Vehicle: 09 Pontiac G8 GT	LMFAO!!!! See how many of those guys are like "thank you soo much", "I need to find one bad," and my fav "this will be one of my first mods."