Moda MD2, Any one seen these or have them? - Page 2

Mirage85 · 03-16-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverGT1

I'm selling rims if you're interested. the link is in my sig

Ive considered those, but not really what Im after. If I were, I would take you up on that, thanks though man.... maybe if you still have time in a few months.

Mirage85 · 03-19-2007, 06:39 AM

Something like this I gues is what would be needed, or is this something that any tie/wheel place should have?

http://www.optionimports.com/h-r-spacer.html

Tirerack does not sell wheel spacers, as I just recieved an email from them.

Can any one comfirm my question about about the spacers correcting the 45mm offset?

bballr4567 · 03-19-2007, 06:59 AM

Id try to find a friend that has the same off set and see if they will let you put the rims on your car to check them out. Im guessing itll be pretty tight.

They do look good but pretty expensive for sure.

Mirage85 · 03-19-2007, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bballr4567

Id try to find a friend that has the same off set and see if they will let you put the rims on your car to check them out. Im guessing itll be pretty tight.

They do look good but pretty expensive for sure.

Not enough people have after market wheels, and finding one that has 45mm offsent wheels with the same bolt pattern I need will be near impossible.....

I just need to know if my thinking about offset is correct. If so, then a 5mm spacer would make the offset 40... correcting the offset problem, so... the wheels would fit properly.

bballr4567 · 03-19-2007, 07:21 AM

Oh yea that would work.

Then you have to worry about the stud not being long enough though.

Mirage85 · 03-19-2007, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bballr4567

Oh yea that would work.

Then you have to worry about the stud not being long enough though.

While true, its only 5mm, but it is a concern, however, they make longer studs do they not?

bballr4567 · 03-19-2007, 07:34 AM

Yea that is true.

You tried to contact Moda yet??

Mirage85 · 03-19-2007, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bballr4567

Yea that is true.

You tried to contact Moda yet??

I cant find any contact info for them.

Im starting to wonder if another wheel company makes the Moda wheels... as I cannot find a website for them either. I might just have to find a few wheels shops around where I live and stop in and see what they knw about them, if anything....

Roush GT · 03-19-2007, 08:31 AM

BBS makes Moda wheels

Mirage85 · 03-19-2007, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverGT1

BBS makes Moda wheels

Awesome, that will help, thanks man!

Mirage85 · 03-19-2007, 09:31 AM

CONTACT

Phone 877.832.8209 (toll-free)
Fax 770.967.9866

BBS of America, Inc.
5320 BBS Drive
Braselton, GA 30517

We are located next to the Road Atlanta Racetrack.

Email
sales@bbs-usa.com
oem@bbs-usa.com
racing@bbs-usa.com

I sent an email to all 3 addresses, I couldnt find anything about Moda on their site, and any searches I ran came back in another language, so we will see what kind of a response I get.

Perhaps if more people email them, it will get them to consider a wheel size perfect for our cars, since the wheels havent been released yet, there is a slim chance. However, there is always a chance they intend to make the wheels just as we need, Guess I will have to await their response. I also linked them to this thread to check out interest.

AaronGTR · 03-19-2007, 11:08 AM

As I already said, I've seen people on here that have used 45mm offset wheels. Mine are 42mm. 3mm is not that big a difference. Whether or not you rub will depend on a lot of things like what size tires you use and if the car is lowered or not.

You will not know if they will rub or not until you get them and test fit them on the car. It's always best not to use spacers if you don't have too. If you do need spacers though you'll probably only need a 5 or 10mm one. You should use longer wheel studs with them to get full engagement with the lug nuts. And yes of course they make longer wheel studs for our car. They are pretty much universal, and come in a bunch of different lengths. You can even change the thread if you feel like it as long as you get lug nuts that match.

Mirage85 · 03-19-2007, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Sorry, can't help you with that one. We don't make them. It's probably made ASA (Korean wheel comp.) or some Chinese wheel company that makes them for the Tire Rack. Moda is the Tire Rack's private label brand.

Regards,

Michael Cox

BBS of America, Inc.

5320 BBS Drive

Braselton, GA 30517

770/967-9848

800/422-7972

Fax 770/967-9866

michael@bbs-usa.com

www.bbs-usa.com

Thats the response I got from BBS, odd thing is, I have seen Moda wheels on many other sites than just tire rack.... not teh MD2's, but other moda wheels.

Quote:

Back in the 90's when Tire Rack first started the Moda line we made a few styles for them but it's been years. They have several manufactures making them now. It's like ASA wheels. They are a Korean wheel co. that purchased production technology from us and unfortunately we able to put "Licensed by BBS" on their center caps. Everyone reads "Made by BBS" ! Big difference. We're still fighting that one!

Second response

Mirage85 · 03-19-2007, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

As I already said, I've seen people on here that have used 45mm offset wheels. Mine are 42mm. 3mm is not that big a difference. Whether or not you rub will depend on a lot of things like what size tires you use and if the car is lowered or not.

You will not know if they will rub or not until you get them and test fit them on the car. It's always best not to use spacers if you don't have too. If you do need spacers though you'll probably only need a 5 or 10mm one. You should use longer wheel studs with them to get full engagement with the lug nuts. And yes of course they make longer wheel studs for our car. They are pretty much universal, and come in a bunch of different lengths. You can even change the thread if you feel like it as long as you get lug nuts that match.

I just dont want to spend $1400 on wheels and tires to find out it wont work on my car....

So my thinking is correct then about the offset, no one seems to have answered that question directly, that adding a 5mm spacer, actually subtracts from the offset, making 45mm offset wheels 40mm offset?

Mirage85 · 03-19-2007, 12:31 PM

http://www.asaalloywheel.com/product...id=82&ctype=1#

Looks like ASA makes them after all.... interesting, differencenter cap, same wheel.

I am awaiting a resonse from them now, as for spacers, something like this is what Im after? then when I get the tires mounted to the wheels and ballanced, the shop should have longer studs, I hope, I will have to find out in advance. I have time to worry about it, as these wheels arent out yet, and may actually never come out from the sounds of things....

Spacers:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tuner...em180095210738

Roush GT · 03-19-2007, 02:29 PM

hmm sorry about that i think bbs just makes a wheel called moda? I was on a site that said Moda by bbs and just assumed.... atleast you found out who makes em

Mirage85 · 03-19-2007, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverGT1

hmm sorry about that i think bbs just makes a wheel called moda? I was on a site that said Moda by bbs and just assumed.... atleast you found out who makes em

From the way BBS explained it to me, they used to make the Moda wheels, but they sold the technology for the wheels to another company, which still uses the "by BBS" for marketing purposes, which from teh sounds of things, BBS has a lawsuit against them for it now....

So we will see.... whatever, in the end I think I got an email to the right place, but Im having doubts from ever hearing from them...

03-19-2007, 06:39 AM	#22
Mirage85 MMMMM, BEER, GRRGGHH Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home = Knox, Pa: Live / Work= Edison, NJ Age: 38 Posts: 1,116 Vehicle: 2005 Grand Am GT Coupe	Something like this I gues is what would be needed, or is this something that any tie/wheel place should have? http://www.optionimports.com/h-r-spacer.html Tirerack does not sell wheel spacers, as I just recieved an email from them. Can any one comfirm my question about about the spacers correcting the 45mm offset? __________________ Mirage Cardomain

03-19-2007, 08:31 AM	#29
Roush GT Moderator AKA: Chris Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dry Ridge,Ky Age: 47 Posts: 1,441 Vehicle: 2016 Hyundai Veloster	BBS makes Moda wheels __________________ 2007 Vista Blue Premium GT w/ Roush body kit. Roush wheels, Roush door sill plates, Roush Off-Roads, Roush Leather, Roush Toolkit Roush Stage 2 Suspension, Roush LCA's Steeda Pro Action Shocks & Struts Roush anti-wheel hop kit, Roush hood struts. Gone, but not forgotten.

03-19-2007, 09:31 AM	#31
Mirage85 MMMMM, BEER, GRRGGHH Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home = Knox, Pa: Live / Work= Edison, NJ Age: 38 Posts: 1,116 Vehicle: 2005 Grand Am GT Coupe	CONTACT Phone 877.832.8209 (toll-free) Fax 770.967.9866 BBS of America, Inc. 5320 BBS Drive Braselton, GA 30517 We are located next to the Road Atlanta Racetrack. Email sales@bbs-usa.com oem@bbs-usa.com racing@bbs-usa.com I sent an email to all 3 addresses, I couldnt find anything about Moda on their site, and any searches I ran came back in another language, so we will see what kind of a response I get. Perhaps if more people email them, it will get them to consider a wheel size perfect for our cars, since the wheels havent been released yet, there is a slim chance. However, there is always a chance they intend to make the wheels just as we need, Guess I will have to await their response. I also linked them to this thread to check out interest. __________________ Mirage Cardomain Last edited by Mirage85; 03-19-2007 at 09:46 AM.

03-19-2007, 11:08 AM	#32
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	As I already said, I've seen people on here that have used 45mm offset wheels. Mine are 42mm. 3mm is not that big a difference. Whether or not you rub will depend on a lot of things like what size tires you use and if the car is lowered or not. You will not know if they will rub or not until you get them and test fit them on the car. It's always best not to use spacers if you don't have too. If you do need spacers though you'll probably only need a 5 or 10mm one. You should use longer wheel studs with them to get full engagement with the lug nuts. And yes of course they make longer wheel studs for our car. They are pretty much universal, and come in a bunch of different lengths. You can even change the thread if you feel like it as long as you get lug nuts that match. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

03-19-2007, 12:31 PM	#35
Mirage85 MMMMM, BEER, GRRGGHH Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home = Knox, Pa: Live / Work= Edison, NJ Age: 38 Posts: 1,116 Vehicle: 2005 Grand Am GT Coupe	http://www.asaalloywheel.com/product...id=82&ctype=1# Looks like ASA makes them after all.... interesting, differencenter cap, same wheel. I am awaiting a resonse from them now, as for spacers, something like this is what Im after? then when I get the tires mounted to the wheels and ballanced, the shop should have longer studs, I hope, I will have to find out in advance. I have time to worry about it, as these wheels arent out yet, and may actually never come out from the sounds of things.... Spacers: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tuner...em180095210738 __________________ Mirage Cardomain Last edited by Mirage85; 03-19-2007 at 01:21 PM.

03-19-2007, 06:59 AM	#23
bballr4567 GAGT - Member AKA: Josh Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 733 Vehicle: 09 Pontiac G8 GT	Id try to find a friend that has the same off set and see if they will let you put the rims on your car to check them out. Im guessing itll be pretty tight. They do look good but pretty expensive for sure.

03-19-2007, 07:21 AM	#25
bballr4567 GAGT - Member AKA: Josh Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 733 Vehicle: 09 Pontiac G8 GT	Oh yea that would work. Then you have to worry about the stud not being long enough though.

03-19-2007, 07:34 AM	#27
bballr4567 GAGT - Member AKA: Josh Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 733 Vehicle: 09 Pontiac G8 GT	Yea that is true. You tried to contact Moda yet??

03-19-2007, 02:29 PM	#36
Roush GT Moderator AKA: Chris Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dry Ridge,Ky Age: 47 Posts: 1,441 Vehicle: 2016 Hyundai Veloster	hmm sorry about that i think bbs just makes a wheel called moda? I was on a site that said Moda by bbs and just assumed.... atleast you found out who makes em __________________ 2007 Vista Blue Premium GT w/ Roush body kit. Roush wheels, Roush door sill plates, Roush Off-Roads, Roush Leather, Roush Toolkit Roush Stage 2 Suspension, Roush LCA's Steeda Pro Action Shocks & Struts Roush anti-wheel hop kit, Roush hood struts. Gone, but not forgotten.

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