Amp + sub + box for $149.00

[stillriza]

I understand what your saying...kinda ticked me off though that I ask for something..and he shows me something else.

Anyways.. I found a bunch of guys selling the MTX MXS1004 for pretty cheep..along with the enclosure. I will sleep on it and see what the responses here are like tomorrow.

As for the amp.. since each sub handles 400 watts RMS ..I should match an amp the same, correct? ANd would I go dual channel or single keeping in mind the monsoon amp is still there?

( i need to read up more on this )

[Metallman56]

what store did you listen to this stuff at? and againi highly sugest listening to some of the brands that i mentioned earlier. i can almost promise you that all of the brands i listed will sound a lot better then that mtx.

[cardude007617]

ya, some car audio stores can be real rude, like if u dont drop a grand, they're not gonna help

[Metallman56]

when i come across rude people that wont help me with the sound board and stuff, i just do it myself and try to piss them off. someone will come and talk to you, then just bombard them with questions. if there being total asses, then the dumber the question, the happier i am. then i get to do 2 things i love. preview new gear, and piss off an a-hole.

[stillriza]

I went to a few different stores...Futureshop, bestbuy, 2001 Audio Video and a few smaller stores who sell specialty stuff. In terms of the Lanzar..I can't get them anywhere locally.

I listened to a few Alpines, Pioneer, sonys, Infinity Kapa Series, MTX thunder and the newer MXS series. I also tried some kenwoods. Of the places I went, there weren't any JL's, Dimoand Audio, Boston Acoustics or MB Quart. They are online and I could special order...but unless I can listen to it...I won't buy it.

I loved the 10" MTx. From all the ones i tried..I felt in terms of sound quality..they were the best with no distortion what so ever. Price terms... I thought they out of my budget at 300 per sub. The Alpine's came in second for me. All the other brands you guys mentioned...I won't doubt you guys, but again..unless I can sit and hear it..I won't buy it online.

The mtx ..I found a few places selling them dirt cheep used. I had only wanted 1 sub..but since they are being sold in 2's...for less than the price of 1 retail..I won't pass it up. I will wait till I get the subs before i grab an amp and the wires. The box.. i will try and make myself if i still have the extra wood laying around in my basement....if not i will pruchase a used one and recarpet if nesscecary.

From there..I will decide how to install it all. I have more reading to do on the forums. I want to know If i get a good amp ...if i can just take out the monsoon amp all together...or if I would still use it in the setup. Also..what to go for..2 channels or single.. and specs on the amp to power both subs. Also..do I go for one single box to stick both subs...or if I cant find one..is it aright to go with 2 seperate boxes for the subs. I have so many questions...but i want to make sure i do it right the first time... The guy at one of the audio places said I would blow the new amp..and all the speakers if i were to run the setup with the monsoon in...and I would have to bypass the monsoon amp all together and bridge something...

But I am not the one to take someones word unless i do the research on it first. You guys have been a great help.

p.s i will know by the end of tomorrow if i can grab those subs.

[Metallman56]

i dont know if you would blow everything by keeping the monsoon amp. i'm not really the guy to ask about that. what i did just just bought everything at once. i have a Kenwood Excelon amp for my fronts, and a kicker for the rears. i dont use the monsoon at all. if you bypass the monsoon your going to need get a amp for your fronts and rears. if you do that your going to want to get new speakers all the way around as well. reason being is your stocks will blow without question. the 2nd thing you could do if you wanted to bypass the monsoon, is wire all your speakers directly to the HU. meaning running brand new wire from each speaker to the HU. it would be a pain in the ass, but it might be worth it.

[stillriza]

So after some more reading...this is all I need to do to install the new amp and get the 2 subs going. Seems simple enough.

splice in a LOC in front of the amp and use pins E4-E7 as left and right rear speakers outputs ..plug those into the new amp

use pin E10 for the amp turn on.

hook the subs to the amp

is this correct?


Do I need to Run power from the battery to the amp's (+) terminal. then ground the(-) amp terminal to one of the bolts behind/under the back seat (in the trunk).

[Pitter98]

Originally Posted by stillriza

So after some more reading...this is all I need to do to install the new amp and get the 2 subs going. Seems simple enough.

splice in a LOC in front of the amp and use pins E4-E7 as left and right rear speakers outputs ..plug those into the new amp

use pin E10 for the amp turn on.

hook the subs to the amp

is this correct?

Do I need to Run power from the battery to the amp's (+) terminal. then ground the(-) amp terminal to one of the bolts behind/under the back seat (in the trunk).

I haven't looked at the pinout lately and it's been a while since I've done it, but that sounds right - you're gonna have the 4 wires for the converter and 1 wire for the remote power lead (I think blue), then RCA's from the converter to the amp. Actually, depending on the amp, you may not need the LOC - some multichannel amps come with speaker level inputs built right in - but check to see, don't assume they come with it.

You will need a heavy duty power line running from your battery to your amp (with a fuse) and a ground line from your amp to somewhere in your trunk. Anything over 500w and you should use 4 gauge max (use 0, 1, or 2 for 1000w+) to run from your battery to your amp.

For the amp, you can either do a mono amp and hook the subs up in parallel to run at 2 ohms or you could do a 2 channel with each sub hooked up to a channel to run at 4 ohms. 2 ohms will always get you the most power out of your amp, but it does run it hotter and puts a little more strain on it - but 95% of amps are designed to be able to run stable at 2 ohms. For number of boxes, that is up to you - you could just do 1 big one or 2 smaller ones. Either way, make sure the size of the enclosure matches up with the recommended volume (cubic feet) of the subwoofer. If it's 1 big box, it should have a wall in the middle separating the two subs or you will get sloppy sound.

Oh, and by the way, the guy that said you will blow your system if you run it with the monsoon is an idiot - I've been doing it for 3 years now. Keep posting questions and will try to help you out as much as we can.

[stillriza]

Originally Posted by Pitter98

You will need a heavy duty power line running from your battery to your amp (with a fuse) and a ground line from your amp to somewhere in your trunk. Anything over 500w and you should use 4 gauge max (use 0, 1, or 2 for 1000w+) to run from your battery to your amp.

Awesome. Thanks for the response. You pointed me in the direction I needed to go. I am looking for a 300w -400w amp at the most and the one I saw does have level inputs. In terms of the wire..since its less than 500w.. is 4 gauge still ok?

I will do this install this weekend if I get the subs tomorrow. I think think i will run the subs/amp at 4ohms.

[cardude007617]

4gauge is good to like 1000ish RMS so ur good

[stillriza]

oh sh*t...forgot to ask.. is one 300-400w amp sufficent to power both subs (upto 400w rms per sub)?

how low can i go in terms of amp wattage?

specs on the subs are...

Impedance 4 Ohms
Power Handling Max 800 Watts
Power Handling Nominal 200 - 400 Watts

[cardude007617]

um not really, id up it a little, a good place to look is ebay for amps. find a 2ch with like 250-400rms, the closer to 400 the better.

[stillriza]

great! w00t!!

[stillriza]

I ended up purchasing only 1 MTX MXS1004 sub. Personally, 2 is overkill for me as I am not as into it as some of the other guys here.

I found this amp online here

My question is, would this be enough to power my one sub.? I can get this amp for 75 canadian on ebay and it ends in about 40 mins.

My sub specs are:
Impedance 4 Ohms
Magnet Weight 159 g
Mounting Depth 6.6"
Ported Box Volume 1.25 Cu. Ft.
Power Handling Max 800 Watts
Power Handling Nominal 200 - 400 Watts

Any help is appreciated

20 mins left.

[stillriza]

Bump..20 mins left...anyone?

[cardude007617]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
that is truely a great site.....notttttt
all they show is the max power and dress it up to "dynamic power" and such. the point i'm making is MAX power ratings are pretty useless, u want to look at RMS. see, lets say u get a 3000w amp. GREAT but it only gets 500RMS. 500w compared to 3000 is nothing.
bottom line, most subs take around 200-300 rms, id guess those MTXs follow that rule of the lesser end subs.

[cardude007617]

well its 100RMS at 2ohms for 2ch..... not enough

[stillriza]

so what your saying is match rms on the sub with the amp...
so 400rms sub..get a 400rms amp. k

[cardude007617]

about that ya, id go a lil under but ya

[stillriza]

k kool. i wont rush the amp. i wlil look around. when i run into problems, i will post back.