New Front Bumper Mods

Trigga-T · 05-16-2007, 02:45 PM

so i had that kandy red grand am with the kandy man airbrushed and im redoing it because it got scratched up alil bit and i rearended someone. so in the redo stage i decided to modify the front bumper and im gettin the ram air hood. heres the pics of wut i did so far. i cut the lil vents on the sides of it and cut the middle opening piece and plastic welded the plate filler in.

Exodus · 05-16-2007, 02:48 PM

Interesting, it'll look similar to my avatar.

SikMindz · 05-16-2007, 03:05 PM

Hmm..didn't realize that you could weld plastic to p/u.

Looks good so far.

Elderas · 05-16-2007, 03:09 PM

make sure you weld it good so it doesnt crack, which i have a feeling it might.

WeibSunder · 05-16-2007, 03:10 PM

Wow, your gonna have fun sanding, priming and bondo-ing.

Won't cutting out the center plastic pillar much weaker?

If it all works out it's going to look good.

GrandAmGT1996 · 05-16-2007, 03:10 PM

Seems like it should turn out pretty good....the only thing is, you might want to come up with a way to reinforce the part where you cut the middle section out (on the lip thing) because it might be a little weak. (Sorry for the poor description)

WeibSunder · 05-16-2007, 03:28 PM

That's what I'm thinking, that it will turn out to be a weak point. If it was me I would slide a piece of think metal in that bottom part or even a small metal rod and then fiberglass it in on the back. Because if you attempt to go into a steep driveway or anything of the sort it will hit and either break or put a nasty crease in it.

Gizm0815 · 05-16-2007, 03:45 PM

you cant weld plastic..do u use a wood burner to just melt it to the bumper? i would have thought some fiberglass and bondo would have worked easier but im not a body guy nor painter so i dont know. just looks like a real odd way to make it work.

Mirage85 · 05-16-2007, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizm0815

you cant weld plastic..do u use a wood burner to just melt it to the bumper? i would have thought some fiberglass and bondo would have worked easier but im not a body guy nor painter so i dont know. just looks like a real odd way to make it work.

Yes, you can weld plastic, they even make plastic welders. Its not welding the same way you weld metal, but its the same idea.

I agree, I think cutting out the middle was a big mistake. There is a GAGT at work, and they pulled to close to a curb or something and snapped that part off, and now it almost hangs low enough to hit the ground. It might seem sturdy now, but give it some time and it will start to bow.

AaronGTR · 05-16-2007, 04:10 PM

Yeah, that center section will be a weak point and will likely bow or break unless you put something in it as reinforcement. Maybe a long piece of fiberglass or aluminum. McMaster-Carr has bonded honeycomb aluminum sheets that are extremely stiff and light that I've found make good reinforcements for body panels.

ancona46 · 05-16-2007, 04:58 PM

that thing is definetly gonna sag like an old lady's tits

WeibSunder · 05-16-2007, 05:06 PM

Wait till the sun hits that dark paint...it's gonna get soft and start to sag like everyone is saying. I still say to go to Home Depot or Lowes and get a thin piece of metal or a light metal tube.

tenspeed · 05-16-2007, 06:11 PM

Get 5 foot of copper pipe and a can of expandible foam. Put a slight bend in the pipe and foam it in place. That should hold it.

Elderas · 05-16-2007, 06:24 PM

^good idea right there

i also didnt even notice you cut the middle out

and yes you can weld plastic as proof above

you should cut out those little side vents too while your at it.

WeibSunder · 05-16-2007, 06:32 PM

Do you think with the expandable foam that if the least little bit of moisture got in there and froze it could dislodge the foam and he would lose his pipe?

Would fiberglass be better?

WeibSunder · 05-16-2007, 06:35 PM

And looking at the pics again, won't he need to fiberglass the notch he cut out of the bottom lip anyway?

GrandAmGT1996 · 05-16-2007, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenspeed

Get 5 foot of copper pipe and a can of expandible foam. Put a slight bend in the pipe and foam it in place. That should hold it.

I think we have a winner

notsoaveragej0e · 05-16-2007, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elderas

you should cut out those little side vents too while your at it.

I thought he did?

Hodge · 05-16-2007, 08:46 PM

thats doPe

if i had a way to work with body work (and was good heh dreamin), i'd get rid of all the ****ing waves somehow ****ing hate the GA waves. the dude that made them is my cousins fiances dad... small world

gotta have a coors sitting next to the bumper, only way u can do it haha

Grreen99GT · 05-16-2007, 08:46 PM

elderas

hahaha, just playin

05-16-2007, 02:45 PM	#1
Trigga-T GAGT - Member AKA: Tony Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Age: 36 Posts: 446 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT Coupe	UpDated New Front Bumper Mods so i had that kandy red grand am with the kandy man airbrushed and im redoing it because it got scratched up alil bit and i rearended someone. so in the redo stage i decided to modify the front bumper and im gettin the ram air hood. heres the pics of wut i did so far. i cut the lil vents on the sides of it and cut the middle opening piece and plastic welded the plate filler in. __________________ Pics of the Whip http://www.cardomain.com/id/kandydripper Pioneer DEH-P880PRS, 2 SETS AMERICAN BASS 5.25 COMPONENTS 2 SETS AMERICAN BASS 6X9S AMERICAN BASS VFL 160.4 2 AMERICAN BASS XD 12" SUBS 1 AMERICAN BASS VFL 80.1 AMP (1000 WATTS RMS) Last edited by Trigga-T; 01-31-2008 at 05:18 PM.

05-16-2007, 02:48 PM	#2
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05-16-2007, 03:10 PM	#5
WeibSunder Got Airway? AKA: Matt Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Evergreen,NC Age: 36 Posts: 1,337 Vehicle: 06 Dodge Magnum	Wow, your gonna have fun sanding, priming and bondo-ing. Won't cutting out the center plastic pillar much weaker? If it all works out it's going to look good. __________________ Kenntnis ist Kraft Air goes in and out, blood goes round and round. Any variation in this, is a bad thing!

05-16-2007, 03:28 PM	#7
WeibSunder Got Airway? AKA: Matt Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Evergreen,NC Age: 36 Posts: 1,337 Vehicle: 06 Dodge Magnum	That's what I'm thinking, that it will turn out to be a weak point. If it was me I would slide a piece of think metal in that bottom part or even a small metal rod and then fiberglass it in on the back. Because if you attempt to go into a steep driveway or anything of the sort it will hit and either break or put a nasty crease in it. __________________ Kenntnis ist Kraft Air goes in and out, blood goes round and round. Any variation in this, is a bad thing!

05-16-2007, 03:45 PM	#8
Gizm0815 Moved on to VW AKA: Joe Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oak Forest, Illinois Age: 35 Posts: 866 Vehicle: 01 Audi A4,	you cant weld plastic..do u use a wood burner to just melt it to the bumper? i would have thought some fiberglass and bondo would have worked easier but im not a body guy nor painter so i dont know. just looks like a real odd way to make it work. __________________ Grand Am 15.743 @ 86.64mph completly stock Grand Am 15.431 @88.46mph mpracing tune cardomain pics updated 8-22-06 Turbolag is foreplay, but when the turbo kicks in then u'll blow your load.

05-16-2007, 03:09 PM	#4
Elderas It's Finnaly Melting AKA: Raz Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Calgary, Alberta Age: 35 Posts: 1,240 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am SE	make sure you weld it good so it doesnt crack, which i have a feeling it might.

05-16-2007, 04:10 PM	#10
AaronGTR BlingWithBallz AKA: Aaron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit area, MI Age: 43 Posts: 12,254 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am GT1 2dr	Yeah, that center section will be a weak point and will likely bow or break unless you put something in it as reinforcement. Maybe a long piece of fiberglass or aluminum. McMaster-Carr has bonded honeycomb aluminum sheets that are extremely stiff and light that I've found make good reinforcements for body panels. __________________ The few, the proud, the boosted! 13.788 @ 103.73 mph (3/2011) 320 whp and 300 ft/lbs torque. (3/2011) See it here. the total package.

05-16-2007, 04:58 PM	#11
ancona46 sl0wrider AKA: mike Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south jersey Age: 36 Posts: 1,211 Vehicle: 04 GAGT & 96 Lumina	that thing is definetly gonna sag like an old lady's tits __________________ Annerito Fuori E Sbattuto Alla Terra Cardomain Unique Kustoms Car Club

05-16-2007, 05:06 PM	#12
WeibSunder Got Airway? AKA: Matt Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Evergreen,NC Age: 36 Posts: 1,337 Vehicle: 06 Dodge Magnum	Wait till the sun hits that dark paint...it's gonna get soft and start to sag like everyone is saying. I still say to go to Home Depot or Lowes and get a thin piece of metal or a light metal tube. __________________ Kenntnis ist Kraft Air goes in and out, blood goes round and round. Any variation in this, is a bad thing!

05-16-2007, 06:11 PM	#13
tenspeed GAGT - Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Honeoye, NY Posts: 1,734 Vehicle: 02 GA 2.2L, 5 Speed	Get 5 foot of copper pipe and a can of expandible foam. Put a slight bend in the pipe and foam it in place. That should hold it. __________________ ~Jim~ www.TeamGI.com - Western New York Cardomain page Click here to see my auctions

05-16-2007, 06:24 PM	#14
Elderas It's Finnaly Melting AKA: Raz Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Calgary, Alberta Age: 35 Posts: 1,240 Vehicle: 2002 Grand Am SE	^good idea right there i also didnt even notice you cut the middle out and yes you can weld plastic as proof above you should cut out those little side vents too while your at it.

05-16-2007, 06:32 PM	#15
WeibSunder Got Airway? AKA: Matt Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Evergreen,NC Age: 36 Posts: 1,337 Vehicle: 06 Dodge Magnum	Do you think with the expandable foam that if the least little bit of moisture got in there and froze it could dislodge the foam and he would lose his pipe? Would fiberglass be better? __________________ Kenntnis ist Kraft Air goes in and out, blood goes round and round. Any variation in this, is a bad thing!

05-16-2007, 06:35 PM	#16
WeibSunder Got Airway? AKA: Matt Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Evergreen,NC Age: 36 Posts: 1,337 Vehicle: 06 Dodge Magnum	And looking at the pics again, won't he need to fiberglass the notch he cut out of the bottom lip anyway? __________________ Kenntnis ist Kraft Air goes in and out, blood goes round and round. Any variation in this, is a bad thing!

05-16-2007, 08:46 PM	#19
Hodge Chrome Wheel Lover AKA: CK Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 1,496 Vehicle: 2000 Grand Am Se	thats doPe if i had a way to work with body work (and was good heh dreamin), i'd get rid of all the **ing waves somehow **ing hate the GA waves. the dude that made them is my cousins fiances dad... small world gotta have a coors sitting next to the bumper, only way u can do it haha __________________ 2000 Grand Am SE

05-16-2007, 08:46 PM	#20
Grreen99GT GAGT - Senior Member AKA: Josh Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: MI Age: 35 Posts: 1,999 Vehicle: 2011 Cruze LTZ	elderas hahaha, just playin

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