Installed WAI - Page 2

cardude007617 · 06-12-2007, 02:52 PM

so your kinda saying the gains are even and go for the cai first

Bryan · 06-12-2007, 02:57 PM

Whatever you want dude, niether are worth any tremendous gains over the other.

kuecker_dj09 · 06-12-2007, 03:07 PM

when i have the money, im gonna prolly do exhaust now that i have the filter on. it sounds really cool. Paul believe me, cone filters sound so cool especially in the mid RPM ranges

bballr4567 · 06-12-2007, 03:14 PM

Yea they are tiny gains really. It does help especially with the 3400 though.

Ajaxus · 06-12-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kuecker_dj09

so far my throttle response is better, and i believe i may have taken .4 seconds off of my 0-60, but i have no proof except for my stop watch. on with the pic. sorry for such a dirty engine bay.

GrandAmGT1996 · 06-12-2007, 04:38 PM

I figured AJ would point out the humor in the stop watch theory. Your car isnt going to be noticably quicker just from an intake...its all in your head, a lot of people think the same thing. Also, the only way exhaust will help your HP gains is if you are running forced induction, or a lottt of NA stuff. Either way, gotta love the growl of a intake

Ajaxus · 06-12-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandAmGT1996

I figured AJ would point out the humor in the stop watch theory. Your car isnt going to be noticably quicker just from an intake...its all in your head, a lot of people think the same thing. Also, the only way exhaust will help your HP gains is if you are running forced induction, or a lottt of NA stuff. Either way, gotta love the growl of a intake

Not to mention the fact that it takes a decent amount of concentration and a DAMN nice stop watch to start/stop it on 0.1 seconds (buttons tend to stick or are hard to push quickly on many stop watches). that being said, you can not say that you took .4 sec's off your 0-60 time for many reasons.

the first is that you have to watch the road, watch the speed, drive the car, and start/stop the stop watch..that's alot to be doing, which means your concentration level is low, and you may be tempted to jump the gun inorder to make up for that.

the human body is no competition for a computer when timing such things. sorry, but 0.4 sec's off? absurd. with an WAI and nothing else done (atleast that i could see)? even more absurd.

butt dyno ftmfl, sorry.

i'm not trying to be an ass..well, i don't think i am. just pointing out that your method of timing is inaccurate and open to many errors.

Jake · 06-12-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cardude007617

damn now im confused. a few people i just talked to on aim about GAs said that you'd see more gains getting a higher flowing exhaust than modding the intake first. which way is it? and what gains can i see from a cai; real fender one

For the record, I am that AIM person, and I didnt say you'd get more gains from a MUFFLER, I said from upgrading your exhaust (HF cat, bigger pipes,muffler) youd see more gains then a CAI. Like someone else said, they work together, so freeing up the exhaust will help the intake, and getting an intake with the exhaust already upgraded will show more gains then an intake on a stock exhaust system. And for the 10th time youll notice a slight gain with a CAI, 5 Hp is realistic.

coupe · 06-12-2007, 06:42 PM

^^^ exactly, just getting a muffler wont get you anything at all. A FULL exhuast you will see a decent difference. What i mean by full exhuast is headers, HF cat, cat-back and a HFing muffler, 2.5" from the headers to the muffler. Now that shaved off .5 seconds for me in the 1/4.

A CAI is cheap and sounds cool, so why not.

I personaly did both CAI and FULL exhuast in the same week.

cardude007617 · 06-12-2007, 07:10 PM

i see, so get the cai, listen to cool sound for a while, then move on with bigger and better things

Ajaxus · 06-12-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cardude007617

i see, so get the cai, listen to cool sound for a while, then move on with bigger and better things

this is so true, cause once you get that exhaust on, hearing that CAI is gonna be mighty tough

cardude007617 · 06-12-2007, 09:31 PM

how easy is it for a 17 year old noob like myself to put a MP R cai in?

cardude007617 · 06-12-2007, 09:33 PM

and who the hell flamed me? i said that i was gonna get a MP Racing one, not a knock off. who did that?

bballr4567 · 06-12-2007, 09:39 PM

Its not hard at all. Hardest part for me was breaking the lugnuts. Then trying to find all the nuts that held on the stupid stock "intake"

cardude007617 · 06-12-2007, 09:44 PM

u mean the lugnuts on the wheels?

Ajaxus · 06-12-2007, 09:46 PM

umm..30 minutes

bballr4567 · 06-12-2007, 09:47 PM

Yup. Its seriously that easy. You have to pull off the wheel to get to the inner fender area to take out the stock intake. You will see. Its rather simple. There has to be a how to with pics on this site.

cardude007617 · 06-12-2007, 09:52 PM

right, i was just wondering what u meant by it took u awhile to break the lug nuts off

Ajaxus · 06-12-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cardude007617

right, i was just wondering what u meant by it took u awhile to break the lug nuts off

they were probably put on with an impact wrench..it's a bit harder to remove by hand if this is the case..but it doesn't make it impossible..just more elbow grease is needed.

bballr4567 · 06-12-2007, 10:37 PM

That and I didnt have my tire iron with me. I had to use the lug nut key and that crappy wrench that comes with the car jack.

06-12-2007, 02:52 PM	#21
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	so your kinda saying the gains are even and go for the cai first __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

06-12-2007, 02:57 PM	#22
Bryan GAGT - Junkie AKA: Bryan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Age: 32 Posts: 4,269 Vehicle: '09.5 G6	Whatever you want dude, niether are worth any tremendous gains over the other. __________________ CarDomain (Updated 10/9)

06-12-2007, 03:07 PM	#23
kuecker_dj09 Former GAGT Owner AKA: Seth Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Manhattan, KS Posts: 552 Vehicle: 2000 Silverado ECSB	when i have the money, im gonna prolly do exhaust now that i have the filter on. it sounds really cool. Paul believe me, cone filters sound so cool especially in the mid RPM ranges __________________ CarDomain FQuick 2000 Silverado- Daily and project truck 2000 Grand Am GT1- Gone But Not Forgotten

06-12-2007, 06:42 PM	#29
coupe lick it AKA: Rand Join Date: May 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Age: 40 Posts: 7,347 Vehicle: 99 GAGT/96 Z71/05 R6	^^^ exactly, just getting a muffler wont get you anything at all. A FULL exhuast you will see a decent difference. What i mean by full exhuast is headers, HF cat, cat-back and a HFing muffler, 2.5" from the headers to the muffler. Now that shaved off .5 seconds for me in the 1/4. A CAI is cheap and sounds cool, so why not. I personaly did both CAI and FULL exhuast in the same week. __________________ CarDomain.com http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=31690558 he has asserted his dominance over competing males with the loud masculine sound form his exaust system, Females searching for a potential mate will be driven away by weaker exaust systems and attracted to his SLP.

06-12-2007, 07:10 PM	#30
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	i see, so get the cai, listen to cool sound for a while, then move on with bigger and better things __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

06-12-2007, 03:14 PM	#24
bballr4567 GAGT - Member AKA: Josh Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 733 Vehicle: 09 Pontiac G8 GT	Yea they are tiny gains really. It does help especially with the 3400 though.

06-12-2007, 09:31 PM	#32
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	how easy is it for a 17 year old noob like myself to put a MP R cai in? __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

06-12-2007, 09:33 PM	#33
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	and who the hell flamed me? i said that i was gonna get a MP Racing one, not a knock off. who did that? __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

06-12-2007, 09:39 PM	#34
bballr4567 GAGT - Member AKA: Josh Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 733 Vehicle: 09 Pontiac G8 GT	Its not hard at all. Hardest part for me was breaking the lugnuts. Then trying to find all the nuts that held on the stupid stock "intake"

06-12-2007, 09:44 PM	#35
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	u mean the lugnuts on the wheels? __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

06-12-2007, 09:47 PM	#37
bballr4567 GAGT - Member AKA: Josh Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 733 Vehicle: 09 Pontiac G8 GT	Yup. Its seriously that easy. You have to pull off the wheel to get to the inner fender area to take out the stock intake. You will see. Its rather simple. There has to be a how to with pics on this site.

06-12-2007, 09:52 PM	#38
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	right, i was just wondering what u meant by it took u awhile to break the lug nuts off __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

06-12-2007, 10:37 PM	#40
bballr4567 GAGT - Member AKA: Josh Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 733 Vehicle: 09 Pontiac G8 GT	That and I didnt have my tire iron with me. I had to use the lug nut key and that crappy wrench that comes with the car jack.

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