4 quarts versus 5quarts of oil

nickofcourse · 10-12-2007, 09:50 AM

how come the 3400 uses 4 quarts of oil, and the 2.2 uses 5 quarts? you would think the bigger engine would use more oil.

PhantomLover007 · 10-12-2007, 12:21 PM

Smaller oil pan due to larger engine size maybe?? I dunno.

llsht14 · 10-12-2007, 12:25 PM

if i put 5 quarts in my grand am 3400 would it make it tick?

Metallman56 · 10-12-2007, 02:03 PM

2.4l is 4 quarts

3.4l is 4.5 quarts.

i hate that. i wish it were an even number.

Exodus · 10-12-2007, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llsht14

if i put 5 quarts in my grand am 3400 would it make it tick?

You suck at life

nickofcourse · 10-12-2007, 02:06 PM

my owners manual for 2004 says 5 and 4 qurts.

hass · 10-12-2007, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llsht14

if i put 5 quarts in my grand am 3400 would it make it tick?

Can we get an answer to this other than you suck at life?

I'm wondering the same.
I put 4.5Q in my 3400, and now it ticks pretty hardcore.

llsht14 · 10-12-2007, 02:26 PM

yea i put 5 in and now it ticks pretty good. im wondering if that might be a reason

onesexyga · 10-12-2007, 02:28 PM

If youre that worried, for starters, why dont you get it out? Drain out a little then fill it right, checking and adding as you go.

llsht14 · 10-12-2007, 02:29 PM

well i was just wondering if any of you with way more experence with ga's then me would know off hand to save me time.

atc3434 · 10-12-2007, 02:38 PM

New oil is likely to make the motor tick as its quite a bit thinner than the crap you just drained out. I always notice more engine noise after a recent oil change, goes away after a while. If you way overfilled the oil, you could get lots of aireation, which could cause some lifter collapsing, you'd definetly get ticking from that. I don't think filing to 5 quarts would cause that though....

llsht14 · 10-12-2007, 02:41 PM

thank you very much for the (useful) reply. Yeah it seems like its only really noisy when it first starts and the motor is still cold.

stewartfn18 · 10-12-2007, 02:51 PM

First of all, the 3400 takes 4.5 qts of oil to fill it to the max on the dipstick. The eco tec takes about 5 quarts to fill to it to the max on the dipstick because its a dohc which reqires more lubrication than an engine with the cam in the block. As for the ticking, if you change your oil it shiould go away. It will tick when its cold but when it warms up, it should go away.

Mike Jung · 10-12-2007, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llsht14

Yeah it seems like its only really noisy when it first starts and the motor is still cold.

What oil filter & what motor oil ?

(Yeah, I know I sound like a broken down record...)

Maybe, you need a oil filter with a functioning/better anti-drainback valve.

Fram, & Fram made oil filters need not apply

Nothing like dry cold starts; 1st thing in the morning

Sprucegagt · 10-12-2007, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stewartfn18

First of all, the 3400 takes 4.5 qts of oil to fill it to the max on the dipstick. The eco tec takes about 5 quarts to fill to it to the max on the dipstick because its a dohc which reqires more lubrication than an engine with the cam in the block. As for the ticking, if you change your oil it shiould go away. It will tick when its cold but when it warms up, it should go away.

That makes no sense. There are plenty of other engines with the cam in the block that require 5 quarts or more. Personally I think ground clearance is the reason why that .5 quart is missing.

lone_wolf025 · 10-13-2007, 12:00 AM

Last oil change I used 5 quarts, including the bit I put into the filter before installing it. Hasn't hurt anything or caused ticking. Actually the oil level has dropped a little since I filled it, as I would expect to see. I should check it again come to think of it...

silvergtjrad · 10-13-2007, 07:42 AM

Just get a larger oil filter and you can add that extra .5 quart so you guys can put in a full 5 quarts instead of whining about having to try and eyeball half a quart out of a bottle.

stewartfn18 · 10-13-2007, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sprucegagt

That makes no sense. There are plenty of other engines with the cam in the block that require 5 quarts or more. Personally I think ground clearance is the reason why that .5 quart is missing.

tell me what GM V6 takes mor than 5 qts. of oil then, besides the ones that go in the trucks.
3.1=4.5qts
3.4=4.5qts
3.5=4.5qts
3.6=4.5qts
3.8=4.5qts
3.9=4.5qts

Sprucegagt · 10-13-2007, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stewartfn18

tell me what GM V6 takes mor than 5 qts. of oil then, besides the ones that go in the trucks.
3.1=4.5qts
3.4=4.5qts
3.5=4.5qts
3.6=4.5qts
3.8=4.5qts
3.9=4.5qts

3.8 does take 5 quarts along with the GM V6's that go into trucks. Yes there is a difference between the 3800 and 3.8 engines.

But you didn't say GM V6.

Quote:

The eco tec takes about 5 quarts to fill to it to the max on the dipstick because its a dohc which reqires more lubrication than an engine with the cam in the block.

That's a blanket statement for all cam in block engines, thus why it doesn't make any sense.

nate2023 · 10-13-2007, 08:15 PM

2.2 Ecotech takes 5 Qts
3.1, 3.4, and 3.8 takes 4.6
I work at an oil change place.

10-12-2007, 09:50 AM	#1
nickofcourse GAGT - Member AKA: Nick Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: cleveland ohio Posts: 346 Vehicle: 2004 grand am gt coupe	4 quarts versus 5quarts of oil how come the 3400 uses 4 quarts of oil, and the 2.2 uses 5 quarts? you would think the bigger engine would use more oil.

10-12-2007, 12:25 PM	#3
llsht14 Custom A/V Installer AKA: Nate Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cambridge Springs, PA Posts: 439 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT Coupe	if i put 5 quarts in my grand am 3400 would it make it tick? __________________ To many mods to list

10-12-2007, 02:03 PM	#4
Metallman56 Bears Fan AKA: Metall Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 36 Posts: 3,856 Vehicle: 2001 grand am gt coupe	2.4l is 4 quarts 3.4l is 4.5 quarts. i hate that. i wish it were an even number. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/209706...am?action=demo So you proved your point about the camaro - condense your sig. - Your friendly Administration

10-12-2007, 02:26 PM	#8
llsht14 Custom A/V Installer AKA: Nate Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cambridge Springs, PA Posts: 439 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT Coupe	yea i put 5 in and now it ticks pretty good. im wondering if that might be a reason __________________ To many mods to list

10-12-2007, 02:29 PM	#10
llsht14 Custom A/V Installer AKA: Nate Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cambridge Springs, PA Posts: 439 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT Coupe	well i was just wondering if any of you with way more experence with ga's then me would know off hand to save me time. __________________ To many mods to list

10-12-2007, 02:06 PM	#6
nickofcourse GAGT - Member AKA: Nick Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: cleveland ohio Posts: 346 Vehicle: 2004 grand am gt coupe	my owners manual for 2004 says 5 and 4 qurts.

10-12-2007, 02:28 PM	#9
onesexyga onesexyfiero AKA: Kevin Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vermont/New Hampshire Age: 35 Posts: 1,534 Vehicle: 00 GAGT, 88 Fiero GT	If youre that worried, for starters, why dont you get it out? Drain out a little then fill it right, checking and adding as you go.

10-12-2007, 02:38 PM	#11
atc3434 Grand Am Again AKA: Andrew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auburn, NY Age: 38 Posts: 1,999 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am SE	New oil is likely to make the motor tick as its quite a bit thinner than the crap you just drained out. I always notice more engine noise after a recent oil change, goes away after a while. If you way overfilled the oil, you could get lots of aireation, which could cause some lifter collapsing, you'd definetly get ticking from that. I don't think filing to 5 quarts would cause that though.... __________________ 1999 Grand Am SE2 - Blue, TOG Headers, SLP Exhaust, DHP - SOLD 1996 Vert' Z-28 - M6, magnaflow muffler-back, K&N FIPK, Hurst Short-throw - 13.6 @ 103mph. 2006 Dodge Charger R/T Daytona - Go Mango Orange #2832 of 4000. Tune/exhaust. 14.009@97mph. 2002 Saab 9 5 Aero Wagon - 3" turboback/tune. 17psi of sleeper fun just waiting to surprise you.

10-12-2007, 02:41 PM	#12
llsht14 Custom A/V Installer AKA: Nate Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cambridge Springs, PA Posts: 439 Vehicle: 2001 Grand Am GT Coupe	thank you very much for the (useful) reply. Yeah it seems like its only really noisy when it first starts and the motor is still cold. __________________ To many mods to list

10-12-2007, 02:51 PM	#13
stewartfn18 GAGT - Senior Member AKA: David Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oldsmar,FL Age: 32 Posts: 2,049 Vehicle: 04 vette, 14 R6	First of all, the 3400 takes 4.5 qts of oil to fill it to the max on the dipstick. The eco tec takes about 5 quarts to fill to it to the max on the dipstick because its a dohc which reqires more lubrication than an engine with the cam in the block. As for the ticking, if you change your oil it shiould go away. It will tick when its cold but when it warms up, it should go away. __________________ MODS: Not Enough

10-13-2007, 07:42 AM	#17
silvergtjrad yargh! AKA: Jared Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Woodridge, IL Age: 34 Posts: 1,633 Vehicle: 06 TBSS	Just get a larger oil filter and you can add that extra .5 quart so you guys can put in a full 5 quarts instead of whining about having to try and eyeball half a quart out of a bottle. __________________ 2006 AWD TBSS 11.719

10-13-2007, 08:15 PM	#20
nate2023 GAGT - Moneyless AKA: Nathan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mars Posts: 175 Vehicle: 1999 Grand AM GT Coupe	2.2 Ecotech takes 5 Qts 3.1, 3.4, and 3.8 takes 4.6 I work at an oil change place. __________________ Currently Driving: 1999 Grand Am GT Coupe! Mods: CAI, Resonator Delete (Yea, Not Alot) Check it Out: Old Pictures, no Camera, http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2580593

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