$50 for 2008 challenge

[SpyhunteR]

Originally Posted by DrFabulous

Money sent. Who is taking ownership of this in case there is a dispute? No offence Spy, but since you're in the running, it should be someone else.

it's gonna be rough for me to qualify. I have to better myself by a whole second.

[tejohnson]

Donated $55 dollars (extra $5 to help with fees and overhead). I'm just looking at it as a short term investment

[bszopi]

Pot currently sits at $294.04.

[AaronGTR]

You sure are instituting a lot of rules all of a sudden spy. I say F*** the NHRA rules. Too many restrictions and they are meant for keeping level playing field for racing classes. We aren't racing in classes. We all have the same car and we are simply trying to beat a time. If someone wants to drive around in a gutted car let 'em. Full exhaust and mufflers?... don't think so. Many people on here uses cut-outs at the track. And whats the crap about a turbine flange no bigger than a T04? Are you kiddin' me? Most of us here are running V6's, not fours. If someone wants to use a bigger turbo than that, they should be able to use whatever they want for their setup.

I'm not competing for this so I don't really care. I just think stacking up such a long list of restrictions is ghey. Keep it simple.

[SpyhunteR]

if you guys think a cutout will drop you so much time to push you over you're crazy. a nicely planned out exhaust like mine isn't obnoxious and does great. we can change the turbo rules to any turbo goes, I just don't see you guys goin crazy with the turbo sizing but we can go everything goes on the turbo. the rules aren't difficult to follow. other platforms have ran 10s with such "restrictions" but you guys can't? rediculous. I've been doing everything w full interior.

[AleroB888]

Originally Posted by SpyhunteR

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In NHRA Sport FWD racing type screw superchargers are prohibited, up to you

guys, keep it prohibited? or go go go?

Ya gotta allow twin screw, Whipples, etc. That's what Kyle (99Aleroboy) is trying to build up right now.

[BlackJack]

Originally Posted by AaronGTR

You sure are instituting a lot of rules all of a sudden spy. I say F*** the NHRA rules. Too many restrictions and they are meant for keeping level playing field for racing classes. We aren't racing in classes. We all have the same car and we are simply trying to beat a time. If someone wants to drive around in a gutted car let 'em. Full exhaust and mufflers?... don't think so. Many people on here uses cut-outs at the track. And whats the crap about a turbine flange no bigger than a T04? Are you kiddin' me? Most of us here are running V6's, not fours. If someone wants to use a bigger turbo than that, they should be able to use whatever they want for their setup.

I'm not competing for this so I don't really care. I just think stacking up such a long list of restrictions is ghey. Keep it simple.

for someone that "dont really care" that was an awful big jug full of boo-hoo..

class rules are good. that makes it about who can make the power, not who can gut their car down to a drivetrain with a steering wheel.

[SikMindz]

Originally Posted by BlackJack

for someone that "dont really care" that was an awful big jug full of boo-hoo..

class rules are good. that makes it about who can make the power, not who can gut their car down to a drivetrain with a steering wheel.

M$ Werd.

If I had the money I'd buy Robbo's car and just toss all the internals into mine. 4-dr FTMFW.

[Vegeta]

This isn't about who can make the most power. Its about who can get to the 12s first.

[SpyhunteR]

Originally Posted by Vegeta

This isn't about who can make the most power. Its about who can get to the 12s first.

the rules that I've posted actually allow for a lot of ingenuity but they also require commitment on the individual and everybody on this board to keep the car "street" style. running 12s isn't hard. if I wanted to recreate mysetup I can do it for even less than what I spent on mine which was a lot of trial and error and just simply desiring more and more and more.

12s is actually easy to hit the rules just give a quasi challenge to the board. and the rules for nhra I posted aren't very difficult to follow. full interior? **** theres other ways to lose weight. the rear seat and front seats weigh the most. also you can gut underneath the dash and still appear in full interior trim.

someone buy my car and swap the drivetrain in win the pot .

[BlackJack]

Originally Posted by Vegeta

This isn't about who can make the most power. Its about who can get to the 12s first.

ah. the "technicalities" train is going full steam. it also doesn't say "in the 1/4 mile" at any point in the rules either, so since you're in charge of what it's all about, someone can just go hit the 1/8th mile and collect the money then, right?

Spy, you said original mount locations must be used. Anyone have any heart-burn over the torque bracing being relocated?

Fully functioning muffler is going to put me out of the running bro. I'm running 3" straight pipe that exits in front of the rear tires. Guess I'll join the spectators, best of luck to the rest of ya. This is gonna be interesting!

[atc3434]

How about a 12.9 or better 1/4 mile run with video and timeslip documentation, in a '96 plus n-body that is street legal. That would be much easier than worrying about a plethora of rules.

[SpyhunteR]

Originally Posted by atc3434

How about a 12.9 or better 1/4 mile run with video and timeslip documentation, in a '96 plus n-body that is street legal. That would be much easier than worrying about a plethora of rules.

the plethora of rules are for a fully legit street class. why is everybody crying about not being able to turn their cars into gutted ****boxes? street legal is a term that can be seen very differently depending on the part of the country you're talking about.

street legal in the bible belt can mean no cats, no exhaust, whereas everywhere else in civilization designates street legal as cats and mufflers..

whereas in the rules all I'm asking for is a muffler.

[SpyhunteR]

Originally Posted by BlackJack

ah. the "technicalities" train is going full steam. it also doesn't say "in the 1/4 mile" at any point in the rules either, so since you're in charge of what it's all about, someone can just go hit the 1/8th mile and collect the money then, right?

Spy, you said original mount locations must be used. Anyone have any heart-burn over the torque bracing being relocated?

Fully functioning muffler is going to put me out of the running bro. I'm running 3" straight pipe that exits in front of the rear tires. Guess I'll join the spectators, best of luck to the rest of ya. This is gonna be interesting!

would it really be difficult to make a lil Y and have it go straight back with cheapo pepboys mufflers?

and guys none of the rules are official yet, I'm posting up ideas for the rules and such. I do think this is a group effort in putting together the rules. I'm not the only one that put money into the pot, everybody else that put in the money should also be able to have a say.

[BlackJack]

nah, wouldn't be that tough. I'm probably going to have to go under the rear crossmember though, from what I can see looks like a major pain to try and bend your way over it with 3".

Good call, I'll see if I can work that in.

[Gizm0815]

im not competing but personally i believe as long as its an n body motor, shell, and frame do what you want to it. run what ya brung and if u get the time have slips and a video to prove it. who cars about any rules just get the car to go fast enought times to show its consistant and built off n body parts.

just my idea.

[tejohnson]

Stock exhaust should be out. It is not quite realistic given a turbo setup on these cars. No cutout is fine, since that is what you are limited to. Spy, isn't your exhaust 2.5+"?

[Rosado]

Dont you guys listen? The whole idea of this is for someone with ballz to step it up. Spy hit it with a full gut. Whats the problem. Your all thinking shaving pounds will help. It will , but will defeat the purpose. There are no braggin rights with a gutted car.

I can see this happening...

What do you run?

I can run 12.9.

wanna race?

Sure, let me gut my inside out first, see you in 20 min.

And still get spanked cuz your dum ass had a 1.000 reaction time.
Yea im fast, fast and dum!

Do any of you guys hear plan on doing this? What maybe a possible 3 in total.
Do it to the rules, full gut.
If there is aloop hole and you find it, use it.
If not, put money in the pot or STFU and lets get on with this.

[Vegeta]

Your assumptions are making me lose interest. I don't even know why we are bothering with this democracy ****. Spy, make the rules. No questions asked. I don't care what they are (i would prefer less cause I am not reading the list we have now).

Now that we are finished bitching about rules...how about some of you get more companies involved. Who makes 4 cylinder parts? You have a couple of months to make this a success. Right now its a good start but nothing too exciting.

[SpyhunteR]

Originally Posted by tejohnson

Stock exhaust should be out. It is not quite realistic given a turbo setup on these cars. No cutout is fine, since that is what you are limited to. Spy, isn't your exhaust 2.5+"?

mine's 2.5downpipe, 3inch the rest of the way buck underneath the rear suspension. you've seen it.