system killed my alternator.....

614GT95GA · 02-15-2008, 02:30 PM

i hooked up a 600watt amp and 2-10 inch infinity subs....and that same day when i used my turn signals, hit the brakes...it drained the dogshyt out of my battery....to the point where it would go from 14 volts all the way to below 8 volts......after a while, i noticed when i gave it gas, the needle would go back up. Anyway-i heard my engine squeeling and i was told my alternator was going out.......Whatwould make the system kill my alt. like that?? i put a brand new battery in that day also.....Im just wonderin bcuz im replacin my alternator and if the alt went out just for the simple fact of it bein old and needin replaced im cool....but if i replace it with my new one, i hook the system back up-i dont wanna go thru this again.......

silverse · 02-15-2008, 02:36 PM

chances ar ethat it was just the alts time to go but i highly recommed using a capacitor. at least a 1 farrad.

614GT95GA · 02-15-2008, 02:40 PM

so after i put the new alt in, put a cap on and i should be straight??? i sold my system and was lookin into somthin new, possibly a 2-12" RockfordFosgate enclosure....not sure what amp i should run on it tho....thought about an MTX set up-but once again, want a good enough amp, that wont burn up, blow my shyt....

cardude007617 · 02-15-2008, 02:43 PM

so you sold your system the same day you got it and are buying a new one again? i dont follow....... caps wont do anything. you're or were running a small system so get a higher performance battery up front and you should be alright. if problems persist, go with an HO alternator. then back up battery...but the last 2 shouldnt be needed. caps are useless, today's amps dont need them and will benefit more from a back up battery if you really want something.

614GT95GA · 02-15-2008, 03:45 PM

the system was old....i put it in my car and the same day took it out. Ive had the system in my old whip-97 avenger, and never had a problem with it in there......what would you recommend. Opinon wise.....2-10's?? what kind of system would u suggest?? i want bass...but not no obnoxious house rattling bass......1-12 maybe??? the car is a daily driver and im tryin to go as maintience free as possible

Mike Jung · 02-15-2008, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardude007617

so you sold your system the same day you got it and are buying a new one again? i dont follow....... caps wont do anything. you're or were running a small system so get a higher performance battery up front and you should be alright. if problems persist, go with an HO alternator. then back up battery...but the last 2 shouldnt be needed. caps are useless, today's amps dont need them and will benefit more from a back up battery if you really want something.

^
Besides what he said...

Don't forget about the "Big 3" wiring upgrade.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Jung

The Big 3 is in reference to the car's electrical system.

IIRC, the wiring from:
the alternator to battery
battery to ground
engine to ground

Upgrading them to a bigger gauge of wires.

cardude007617 · 02-16-2008, 04:06 PM

ya i dont know why i didnt mention the big 3. i did it on mine, i saw a LITTLE difference....about what i paid for it. so like a $20 worth gain? meaning nothing. Upgraded battery + HO alt = no more dimming =

hass · 02-25-2008, 08:50 PM

You guys have any pictures of the Big 3 Upgrade?

Or have a how to?

Because I want to do it, But it seems like a pain in the butt if you run it through the tubing they have now.

What's the stock? looks like 8ga or something.

cardude007617 · 02-25-2008, 09:02 PM

Here; you just need 2 terminal adapters for the top posts on the battery:

i could take real-life pictures tomorrow if need be, that'll show exactly how it is

hass · 02-25-2008, 09:11 PM

Did you have to run them through the stock tubing or anything?

I'm just wondering about the engine heat on the wires.

The terminal adapters can be picked up at an auto store I assume?

cardude007617 · 02-25-2008, 09:12 PM

no, just to the bolt on the fuse block.

the alt one is wrapped, i got the ZZP one.

ya, if you have a system, make sure it has enough ports on it

hass · 02-25-2008, 09:15 PM

Ah awesome, thanks a bunch.

cardude007617 · 02-25-2008, 09:17 PM

still need that picture? and use 4 gauge......stock is like 10g. its scary small

AznGA · 02-25-2008, 09:27 PM

Hmm, my amp is 700W and I have no problems without any electrical modifications.

cardude007617 · 02-25-2008, 09:33 PM

RMS or max.....

AznGA · 02-25-2008, 09:35 PM

cardude007617 · 02-25-2008, 09:36 PM

class D? or ab

AznGA · 02-25-2008, 09:39 PM

Ooo, I will let you know tomorrow. I need to get the exact model number. It's one of the discontinued Alpine mono amps.

Don't really want to go out to my car in snow.

cardude007617 · 02-25-2008, 09:43 PM

its prbly class d which are easier on the elec system. i know when i added my class ab 220x4 rms 4ch, thats what my problems started.......

hass · 02-25-2008, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardude007617

still need that picture? and use 4 gauge......stock is like 10g. its scary small

If the picture is easy to get, please :]
Otherwise don't worry about it.

Yeah, I saw it when I was doing my LIM repair today [when I took the alt off]

I was like wtf is this crap ;x

Then I glance over at my power wire running to the trunk, and I'm like... holy fricken crap, maybe that's why I have issues.
I thought the power wire to the batt was at least.... something decent,

.

I was thinking 0/1ga, but you think I should use 4ga instead?

02-15-2008, 02:30 PM	#1
614GT95GA whatchagonnado??? AKA: Jesse James Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Columbus Ohio Age: 37 Posts: 60 Vehicle: 1995 Grand Am GT Coupe	system killed my alternator..... i hooked up a 600watt amp and 2-10 inch infinity subs....and that same day when i used my turn signals, hit the brakes...it drained the dogshyt out of my battery....to the point where it would go from 14 volts all the way to below 8 volts......after a while, i noticed when i gave it gas, the needle would go back up. Anyway-i heard my engine squeeling and i was told my alternator was going out.......Whatwould make the system kill my alt. like that?? i put a brand new battery in that day also.....Im just wonderin bcuz im replacin my alternator and if the alt went out just for the simple fact of it bein old and needin replaced im cool....but if i replace it with my new one, i hook the system back up-i dont wanna go thru this again.......

02-15-2008, 02:43 PM	#4
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	so you sold your system the same day you got it and are buying a new one again? i dont follow....... caps wont do anything. you're or were running a small system so get a higher performance battery up front and you should be alright. if problems persist, go with an HO alternator. then back up battery...but the last 2 shouldnt be needed. caps are useless, today's amps dont need them and will benefit more from a back up battery if you really want something. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-15-2008, 03:45 PM	#5
614GT95GA whatchagonnado??? AKA: Jesse James Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Columbus Ohio Age: 37 Posts: 60 Vehicle: 1995 Grand Am GT Coupe	the system was old....i put it in my car and the same day took it out. Ive had the system in my old whip-97 avenger, and never had a problem with it in there......what would you recommend. Opinon wise.....2-10's?? what kind of system would u suggest?? i want bass...but not no obnoxious house rattling bass......1-12 maybe??? the car is a daily driver and im tryin to go as maintience free as possible Last edited by 614GT95GA; 02-15-2008 at 03:48 PM.

02-16-2008, 04:06 PM	#7
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	ya i dont know why i didnt mention the big 3. i did it on mine, i saw a LITTLE difference....about what i paid for it. so like a $20 worth gain? meaning nothing. Upgraded battery + HO alt = no more dimming = __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-25-2008, 09:02 PM	#9
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	Here; you just need 2 terminal adapters for the top posts on the battery: i could take real-life pictures tomorrow if need be, that'll show exactly how it is __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-15-2008, 02:36 PM	#2
silverse GAGT - Member AKA: Mike Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: south bend, IN Age: 36 Posts: 85 Vehicle: 06 zx6r	chances ar ethat it was just the alts time to go but i highly recommed using a capacitor. at least a 1 farrad.

02-15-2008, 02:40 PM	#3
614GT95GA whatchagonnado??? AKA: Jesse James Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Columbus Ohio Age: 37 Posts: 60 Vehicle: 1995 Grand Am GT Coupe	so after i put the new alt in, put a cap on and i should be straight??? i sold my system and was lookin into somthin new, possibly a 2-12" RockfordFosgate enclosure....not sure what amp i should run on it tho....thought about an MTX set up-but once again, want a good enough amp, that wont burn up, blow my shyt....

02-25-2008, 08:50 PM	#8
hass Loser =( AKA: mike Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lancaster, NY Posts: 458 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT	You guys have any pictures of the Big 3 Upgrade? Or have a how to? Because I want to do it, But it seems like a pain in the butt if you run it through the tubing they have now. What's the stock? looks like 8ga or something.

02-25-2008, 09:11 PM	#10
hass Loser =( AKA: mike Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lancaster, NY Posts: 458 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT	Did you have to run them through the stock tubing or anything? I'm just wondering about the engine heat on the wires. The terminal adapters can be picked up at an auto store I assume?

02-25-2008, 09:12 PM	#11
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	no, just to the bolt on the fuse block. the alt one is wrapped, i got the ZZP one. ya, if you have a system, make sure it has enough ports on it __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-25-2008, 09:15 PM	#12
hass Loser =( AKA: mike Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lancaster, NY Posts: 458 Vehicle: 1999 Grand Am GT	Ah awesome, thanks a bunch.

02-25-2008, 09:17 PM	#13
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	still need that picture? and use 4 gauge......stock is like 10g. its scary small __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-25-2008, 09:27 PM	#14
AznGA GAGT - Junkie AKA: YJ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 4,440 Vehicle: GAGT	Hmm, my amp is 700W and I have no problems without any electrical modifications.

02-25-2008, 09:33 PM	#15
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	RMS or max..... __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-25-2008, 09:35 PM	#16
AznGA GAGT - Junkie AKA: YJ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 4,440 Vehicle: GAGT	Rms

02-25-2008, 09:36 PM	#17
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	class D? or ab __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

02-25-2008, 09:39 PM	#18
AznGA GAGT - Junkie AKA: YJ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 4,440 Vehicle: GAGT	Ooo, I will let you know tomorrow. I need to get the exact model number. It's one of the discontinued Alpine mono amps. Don't really want to go out to my car in snow.

02-25-2008, 09:43 PM	#19
cardude007617 mmm turbo boost AKA: Paul Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Age: 31 Posts: 4,870 Vehicle: 2005 WRX Sedan 5 Speed	its prbly class d which are easier on the elec system. i know when i added my class ab 220x4 rms 4ch, thats what my problems started....... __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2565053 -2005 World Rally Blue Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan: Tanabe Touring 3in catback, ERZ bellmouth catted downpipe, catless uppipe, SPT Pink springs, SPT short shifter, SPT intake, stereo, Cobb Accessport stage II, Prosport boost/oil temp/volt gauges, 35%, 17x8 Rota Torques, F/R strut braces It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

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